The Haze discussion thread

[Ghost Protocol]

Its that vulture talk that has sam giving lumbo to dudes calling it haze and talking hybred this n that and f1's 3 gens in lol.

 

[Ghost Protocol]

meaning id rather try an grow breed from the hazes available today than play guessing games

Thats fair enough. My point is more along the lines that there aint no guessing about it history is pretty clear inspite of kids trying to rewrite it.

 

[Ghost Protocol]

always thought early haze pics i seen looked mexican others more columbian ,,,when i crossed acapulco gold to,uhkrul i got very haze like plants to,, that got me wondering lol but hey its add up to nothing,,, im past caring as long as you can maintain /preserve improve it from here on'' it dont matter ,,its like it would just be the cherry on top as to breeding with its true genetic known absolutely but hey it seems to be doing fine without that knowledge

What are you from spain? Thinking you have acapulco gold etc lol?

 

[harvestreaper]

What are you from spain? Thinking you have acapulco gold etc lol?

im english but my father was a cliff diver in the 60s lol

 

[harvestreaper]

aint you heard of him ?dangerous diving dan from dagenham hes famous all over acapulco lol
all joking aside i dont think i got shit im simply used to calling the line given to me as AG ,, AG ,,,came from bsc via a guy called himself preservation dude

 

[Donald Mallard]

Ahem. It's a Colombian/Mexican x S. India x Thai. As in 50% Thai - the good ones anyway.

its rumoured the mullumbimby madness that got quite a name for itself in times gone by ,
was also colombian x thai ,
of course its possible , and from all other accounts makes a great cross ,

i would definitely put money on that haze you got having thai in it ,
it certainly rang some bells for me , i really liked it ,
im guessing sam used the thai he collected in sakon nakhon.-, isaan,
aka golden thai not tied to a stick, man that stuff was the bomb
even better than the thai sticks ...

nevil and shantis stuff , im not so sure ,
at least it wasnt as pronounced possibly because they were hybridized with something else... northern lights etc...

 

[harvestreaper]

no one ever consider the old panama red as an ingredient ? old buddy of mine from us was adamant it was the best to come from south america he said there was two panamas reds highland ;and lowland one was good ok other was outstanding better than any lumbos mexis etc

 

[@hempy]

Original Haze is a pure sativa stabilized hybrid arising from crossing all of the best females with a male of a different imported sativa variety each year. Starting with Colombian/ Mexican hybrids grown from seeds from the first crop, a South Indian male plant was used as a pollen source the second year, and a Thai male plant was used the third year. Depending on which year Haze seeds were collected, they resembled either Colombian, South Indian, or Thai plants. Original Haze varies in taste from citrus Thai notes through the gamut of sativa highlights to the deep spicy purple Colombian flavor most common in Dutch Haze cultivars. Although Haze has been available in the Netherlands since the early 1980s, it gained wide popularity only in the mid 1990s. Increasing levels of connoisseurship led to higher prices for exotic and flavorful (but later maturing and more costly to produce) Haze hybrids in preference to the redundant plethora of Dutch Skunk/Northern Lights type buds. Original Haze presently makes up part of about 15 percent of varieties available in the Netherlands, and its frequency is steadily increasing.


Origins of the Species -Rob Clark https://www.420magazine.com/communit...species.81271/

Here you go take a reads.

I posted this up in 2019.

 

[harvestreaper]

Here you go take a reads.

I posted this up in 2019.

good post ,,good read ,,he says at the beginning hemp came to mex Caribbean with indian slaves in 1840s but hemp had been grown in england for over a thousand years previously to that i find it hard to understand how for him it began in 1840s particularly as the english were at the controls in Caribbean at the time ,,the extent of international trade in england even pre roman is very underated imo ,,,,,,the piece on haze does make perfect sense as to what weve seen unfold but does that make it true im not sure definitely makes sense tho

 

[mexcurandero420]

You have not established anything. Again. Read clarkes origin of the species on haze he will briefly walk ypu through the difference between colombian/mexican vs colombian x mexican. The former being the beginning of haze as sam has repeated for the past 30+ fecking years. You clowns just cant read or understand the significance of what the hell you been reading for 30 years thats all.

According to a 1979 article in High Times, in the early 70s there was a large shipment of seeds from Mexico to Colombia.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

no one ever consider the old panama red as an ingredient ? old buddy of mine from us was adamant it was the best to come from south america he said there was two panamas reds highland ;and lowland one was good ok other was outstanding better than any lumbos mexis etc

I remember there were some old pictures from the 80's...(all the old haze pictures all keep tracing back to that 80/81 time period)..pictures of harvested buds..some long colas...some with buds running all the way up but with spaces, some more airy,ect...all the types pictured showing distinctive differences and colours to one another... showed clearly different types..... I remember one picture of a growing plant...huge thick top...all redy mouve colour.... did look alot like Colombian red...
If anyone knows the pictures im on about...ther were quite afew in a old magazine article....if anyone can put the pictures up that would be cool...thanks.

 

[Sub24ox7]

I found a red mauve/purple pheno in sams o. Haze/skunk#1 x skunk#1 x o. Haze/skunk#1 that is very rich smelling spicey. Anyway I digress.
Haze on

 

[RingtailCanyon]

3 way hybrid of colombian sativa lines. Sam wasn't lying about the initial hybrid vigor.

 

[Hammerhead]

Here you go take a reads.

I posted this up in 2019.

Yep , Awesome read. Thanks for the post.

 

[Donald Mallard]

so either sam is lying ,
or rob is using some poetic license ,
personally i think its the latter ,

sam has always stuck to the story about how he gave them thai and south indian ,
one liked it but seeds ran out quick , the other didnt ,
so the original seeds were colombian ,
maybe someone can message him and simply ask ??

so who wants to be the annoying member to do so?? hahahahha ,

i know id believe something sam wrote here over something rob included in high times ...

 

[...CR500AF...]

Yes i can remember him saying thing's like that, for a lot of years...

 

[@hempy]

good post ,,good read ,,he says at the beginning hemp came to mex Caribbean with indian slaves in 1840s but hemp had been grown in england for over a thousand years previously to that i find it hard to understand how for him it began in 1840s particularly as the english were at the controls in Caribbean at the time ,,the extent of international trade in england even pre roman is very underated imo ,,,,,,the piece on haze does make perfect sense as to what weve seen unfold but does that make it true im not sure definitely makes sense tho

Indian hemp was what the British called sativas all drug strains.

Cannabis spread threw what they called the new world because of its importance to shipping ( sails - ropes ) clothing the oil so on.

 

[@hempy]

I posted a post from Sam he had posted in here were he described the purple Haze as being narcotic.

Now in this same post Sam also said one Haze Brother claimed the original Haze was a Colombian Thai from memory and the other Haze brother claimed original Haze was Colombian crossed to something else may of been Indian. Both had a different story to each other is the point.

At the end he said all that matted was the smoke.

 

[Donald Mallard]

show the quote so its not just hearsay ,
some times interpretation matters

 

[@hempy]

Its posted in here feel free to look for it.

I am not going to spend my day re looking for a post i posted and most of you just brushed off any way.