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The Haze discussion thread
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TheDarkStorm
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This is the point donald...the haze crew claimed they made a huge bag in 69/70....so now we even have a bag of seeds in a certain time....the haze crew themselves have recently been trying to crack 1980 seed...the clone going round is from 1980 seed..so weres the bag now.....the bag existed ..the haze crew mention a huge bag...did nevil acces a time machine to see this bag...and come out with a date so accurate....
This is the point donald...the haze crew claimed they made a huge bag in 69/70....so now we even have a bag of seeds in a certain time....the haze crew themselves have recently been trying to crack 1980 seed...the clone going round is from 1980 seed..so weres the bag now.....the bag existed ..the haze crew mention a huge bag...did nevil acces a time machine to see this bag...and come out with a date so accurate....
go back a page and read the post made by big herb for more information darkie ,
who is the "haze crew" btw ???
where is this claim ??
i think hempy threw further doubt into the story by adding the 67 date ,
so which is it , 69 as has always been said , or 67 ,
or both??
the more the story gets told , the more inconsistencies arise ,
this is usually the case when the original story was incorrect,,
and your court will verify this and see the holes and throw it out as i said ...
the court would also ask why nevil didnt confirm with sam over what he suspects are dates on the bags ,
because without the confirmation from the guy who sold the bags ,
those numbers mean nothing and cannot ever be called definite proof of anything ,
trust me , i know how courts work , ive been in them regularly for the last 20 years ...
nevil and the guys who support him have tried to undermine sam and his involvement in both haze and skunk the whole time they have been around ,
from nevil getting seeds from the haze brothers story ,
to dates on bags that in fact mean nothing and then jesse 's story about skunk origins ,
and then there is the dea story too ...
remember nevil wouldnt come on this website because of that ??
why are they all so desperate to paint sam in a bad light when he supplied the tools for nevils fame in the first place ,
is it so that nevil comes out looking like some sort of hero who got their on his own instead of getting a leg up ??
this could be the only reason ,
its also the reason i have strongly opposed their version of "facts".,
because they are actually bullshit made up to undermine one guy and make another look better ,
any logical thinker would see this clearly ,
as would the court you mentioned earlier ...
who is the "haze crew" btw ???
where is this claim ??
i think hempy threw further doubt into the story by adding the 67 date ,
so which is it , 69 as has always been said , or 67 ,
or both??
the more the story gets told , the more inconsistencies arise ,
this is usually the case when the original story was incorrect,,
and your court will verify this and see the holes and throw it out as i said ...
the court would also ask why nevil didnt confirm with sam over what he suspects are dates on the bags ,
because without the confirmation from the guy who sold the bags ,
those numbers mean nothing and cannot ever be called definite proof of anything ,
trust me , i know how courts work , ive been in them regularly for the last 20 years ...
nevil and the guys who support him have tried to undermine sam and his involvement in both haze and skunk the whole time they have been around ,
from nevil getting seeds from the haze brothers story ,
to dates on bags that in fact mean nothing and then jesse 's story about skunk origins ,
and then there is the dea story too ...
remember nevil wouldnt come on this website because of that ??
why are they all so desperate to paint sam in a bad light when he supplied the tools for nevils fame in the first place ,
is it so that nevil comes out looking like some sort of hero who got their on his own instead of getting a leg up ??
this could be the only reason ,
its also the reason i have strongly opposed their version of "facts".,
because they are actually bullshit made up to undermine one guy and make another look better ,
any logical thinker would see this clearly ,
as would the court you mentioned earlier ...
TheDarkStorm
Well-known member
I will highlight it on big herbs article for you donald......and il show you a little statement from the guy himself
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
What a load of bull shit honestly Donald you keep talking about people attacking Sam and YET i don't see that what i see is people showing Sam respect because with out him no one including Nevil would of got hold of haze in the first place full stop.
What i do see is a few of you consistently attacking Nevil and his credibility you can deny it all you like but posts like yours show just that.
What i also find funny is how you conveniently over look the huge differences in Sam's version of the story to that of the one Bigherb has put out in his article.
You were not involved in any way yet you some how think your input into what Nevil did is more valid to that of Nevil's side of the story.
HzA and HzC came from 69 seed the first plant came from 67 if i can read it i am sure you can to.
I think bh admitted that sam didnt agree with some aspects of his story ,
so i would tend to go with that sam says since he was there ,
bh was talking with one of the dealers , not one of the growers ,
so its likely some information doesnt match since his source didnt know it all ,
i think bh would be happy to admit that ...
i dont see me attacking nevil in the post you have quoted ,
show me the attack ??
the man isnt a god you know hempy ,, we can say he did and made human mistakes,
its common knowledge quite a few people had issues with the way he conducted himself in business ,
particularly with regards to honesty and integrity,
some of us think those are important traits,
i would have thought u did too ...
,
you say sam has lied , but then say you show him respect ,\
you just respect that he gave seeds to nevil , since nevil told you that ,
you didnt even believe it before nevil cleared it up for you ...
all posts nevil has ever made say 69 , now suddenly you say he says 67 ,
so what are we to believe hempy??
nevil guesses at what is apparently written on some bags someone gave him
without checking with the person he got them from to be sure what they were referring too ,
so how does that become my input , im only repeating what has been written and quotes made from both parties ,
i have not added any of my own twist at all , id leave that up to you mns guys , you are the best at doing that by a long shot ..
btw ,
when you said how could a backcross of haze be made if no cuttings were kept ,
shows you lack knowledge on basic breeding hempy ,
as does the statement about landraces should be all the same ,
after all these years id think you should have clued yourself up on that shit by now man ,
i think it is true what they say about old dogs i guess .....
go have a nap on the couch old fella and leave these finer points up to us folks who are still with it and have open minds ,
yours closed off eons ago id say ....
so i would tend to go with that sam says since he was there ,
bh was talking with one of the dealers , not one of the growers ,
so its likely some information doesnt match since his source didnt know it all ,
i think bh would be happy to admit that ...
i dont see me attacking nevil in the post you have quoted ,
show me the attack ??
the man isnt a god you know hempy ,, we can say he did and made human mistakes,
its common knowledge quite a few people had issues with the way he conducted himself in business ,
particularly with regards to honesty and integrity,
some of us think those are important traits,
i would have thought u did too ...
,
you say sam has lied , but then say you show him respect ,\
you just respect that he gave seeds to nevil , since nevil told you that ,
you didnt even believe it before nevil cleared it up for you ...
all posts nevil has ever made say 69 , now suddenly you say he says 67 ,
so what are we to believe hempy??
nevil guesses at what is apparently written on some bags someone gave him
without checking with the person he got them from to be sure what they were referring too ,
so how does that become my input , im only repeating what has been written and quotes made from both parties ,
i have not added any of my own twist at all , id leave that up to you mns guys , you are the best at doing that by a long shot ..
btw ,
when you said how could a backcross of haze be made if no cuttings were kept ,
shows you lack knowledge on basic breeding hempy ,
as does the statement about landraces should be all the same ,
after all these years id think you should have clued yourself up on that shit by now man ,
i think it is true what they say about old dogs i guess .....
go have a nap on the couch old fella and leave these finer points up to us folks who are still with it and have open minds ,
yours closed off eons ago id say ....
darthmonkious
Member
Was the 67-69 from Colombian seeds you can ask yourself?It could be Mexican too.
I'm not so convinced about the lineage anymore.
I'm not so convinced about the lineage anymore.
MrBadLowerBack
Member
Agree to Dissagree gentelmen..Love from Thailand..
Intuitive speaking, so not based on any facts just to be clear, I always felt BOEL and OHz being somehow connected. Perfect match IMHO.
According to F, the man responsible for protecting and preserving some of Nevs old hybrids down in Southern Holland, the initial Columbian & Mexican seeds were brought to the US by Beatniks who paved the way for the Hippie movement who picked up their initial work and refined the selections further in California during the ‘60’s.
Can’t verify any of this but it sounds like Spocks logic.
And so this Great Haze discussion/soap continues.
According to F, the man responsible for protecting and preserving some of Nevs old hybrids down in Southern Holland, the initial Columbian & Mexican seeds were brought to the US by Beatniks who paved the way for the Hippie movement who picked up their initial work and refined the selections further in California during the ‘60’s.
Can’t verify any of this but it sounds like Spocks logic.
And so this Great Haze discussion/soap continues.
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
Most of the cannabis going to the Us just like here originate from returning vets and a lot of cannabis being exported in were seed was found and you had some that was also brought in by travelers and hippies and surfers.
To be honest there were many other locations apart from California with grate cannabis the Hawaiian Islands - Australia - Asia - Africa and the list goes on.
For over 20years i have read Cali this and Cali that well i hate to brake to some but Cali was not the only place with a large cannabis culture.
Yes i love Haze but haze is at the end of the day a hybrid of quality sativas and there were a lot of very special sativas around and still are out there.
This Sam vs Nevil thing is bull shit and the myths and second hand Chinese whispers (The Haze Story's ) really has no relevance at the end of the day it all comes down to the smoke even Sam posted that.
Why are so many fixated on a STORY that allegedly happened in the late 60s and or in the 70s i would of thought the important part was the cannabis and the quality of the smoke and preserving it and trying to improve or better put stabilize its quality it had and have it show up in more plants than we were seeing in Haze even 36 years ago.
To be honest there were many other locations apart from California with grate cannabis the Hawaiian Islands - Australia - Asia - Africa and the list goes on.
For over 20years i have read Cali this and Cali that well i hate to brake to some but Cali was not the only place with a large cannabis culture.
Yes i love Haze but haze is at the end of the day a hybrid of quality sativas and there were a lot of very special sativas around and still are out there.
This Sam vs Nevil thing is bull shit and the myths and second hand Chinese whispers (The Haze Story's ) really has no relevance at the end of the day it all comes down to the smoke even Sam posted that.
Why are so many fixated on a STORY that allegedly happened in the late 60s and or in the 70s i would of thought the important part was the cannabis and the quality of the smoke and preserving it and trying to improve or better put stabilize its quality it had and have it show up in more plants than we were seeing in Haze even 36 years ago.
If you reverse search their image of Original Haze (which they've emblazoned their Old School BA logo onto) it's actually an old Seedsman marketing shot.
Who knows, maybe they bought some packs from other retailers and ran a big reproduction. Doubt Sam gave em anything, nor any of the other real Haze traders here. Approach with caution.
Who knows, maybe they bought some packs from other retailers and ran a big reproduction. Doubt Sam gave em anything, nor any of the other real Haze traders here. Approach with caution.
And so this Great Haze discussion/soap continues.
It's the only reason I keep coming back, haha
Season 2 had it's lulls but I'll always come back for fantastic/wild Haze rhetoric in all it's forms.
Its definetly a scam, avoid .
They ripped of Reeferman , Nevil and im sure a bunch of others.
They have fake pics and X's of Nevils strains and Reefermans.
pm charles scot on this website( Reeferman) and ask him about his how shady they are.
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