The Haze discussion thread

[star crash]

Testing the Seedsman Original Haze .... My favorite high (guess I got lucky)

 

[Happy Times]

Nice batch of beans there Star!

open pollination??

 

[star crash]

Five males in the room with three females I had no idea they got pollinated till harvest ...oops...Most definitely my good fortune ,these little seeds are bursting with life & vitality and they got that NLD haze look

 

[Hammerhead]

I was doing plant maintenance and found more of these on P53 today. This makes 3 Ive found on this pheno. Ive found these on other crosses but never as many on 1 plant.

 

[Raco]

settle down, alla yas, keep calm and carry on, thanks!

+1

 

[Raco]

Where I live quite different microclimates (I mean sweet spots) can be found in an area 5km or less

One of my neighbours gifted me today a bucket full of fully ripen medlars..I gave thx

Smiled and thought to mysef....wish I could drop some seeds ....

 

[Terraplanisman]

I was doing plant maintenance and found more of these on P53 today. This makes 3 Ive found on this pheno. Ive found these on other crosses but never as many on 1 plant.

Could this be the beginning of a new recurrent characteristic?

 

[TheDarkStorm]

im sorry hempy ,
but the test you did doesn't rate as a scientific test ,
for the reasons i outlined in my previous post ,
as i said its nice you have the interest in doing such tests ,
but in order for it to be conclusive ,
you need to be more rigorous , include other climates ,
other growers , different ferts , soils , hours etc etc etc
otherwise you are only proving something to yourself ,
and its not anything scientific really ....

i don't dispute your last sentence ,
that potency and type of effect is genetic ,
your 100 % correct ,
but those things are affected by climate , growing conditions etc
a bit like what you said right above that sentence ,
but its a little broader than that ....

Not sure how it works over there yet Donald...but in the usa, spain, columbia and other places it is legal, outdoor grown bud is tested and indoor grown bud....and usually indoors grown usually fetches a higher price sometimes up to triple that of outdoors....and the tests are showing over numbers of strains that indoors the guys are pushing the boundaries of active content to the next level....every were this kind of scientific testing is being done as things are becoming legal in more an more places the indoors is actually putting out higher numbers when done right.....itl be interesting to see as more and more places go legal if this happens evrywer.

 

[Hammerhead]

Could this be the beginning of a new recurrent characteristic?

Ive read some wanted to stabilize this trait. It seems like this mutation would only help those that make concentrates. The flowers are way too small for anything else.

 

[@hempy]

Ive read some wanted to stabilize this trait. It seems like this mutation would only help those that make concentrates. The flowers are way too small for anything else.

I have seen that trait on a line years ago non dutch genetics every plant had it you would see it on every fan leaf i cant remember what the line was now

 

[Donald Mallard]

Not sure how it works over there yet Donald...but in the usa, spain, columbia and other places it is legal, outdoor grown bud is tested and indoor grown bud....and usually indoors grown usually fetches a higher price sometimes up to triple that of outdoors....and the tests are showing over numbers of strains that indoors the guys are pushing the boundaries of active content to the next level....every were this kind of scientific testing is being done as things are becoming legal in more an more places the indoors is actually putting out higher numbers when done right.....itl be interesting to see as more and more places go legal if this happens evrywer.

its probably both strain and climate related darkie ,
i have doubts a pure sativa will reach as high grown in its place of origin vs indoor ,

triple the price ,, must be a fair difference in the buds , both the look and the content to have that much variation ,
what we have grown outdoors here sold for the same price as indoor because no one could tell the difference by looking at it,
in fact many prefer it nowadays to indoor grown due to the quality of the high and the taste ...
perhaps when legality includes some more of the old sweet spots for growing we might see things change from what you are reporting anyhow ..

a friend who said his family will begin legal growing where i live spoke with me about doing some work with them,
i said i would as long as they got some land out in the old tobacco-growing country and did some outdoor grows ,
the weed from out there was and still is always primo ...

 

[TheDarkStorm]

I have seen that trait on a line years ago non dutch genetics every plant had it you would see it on every fan leaf i cant remember what the line was now

Ive seen that on the mr nice ssh and ghs slh....quite afew strains do it...im sure it can be manipulated with certain feeds..I think high pk levels with probably undeclared hormones in some of the boosters might be a cause of it too

 

[@hempy]

Ive seen that on the mr nice ssh and ghs slh....quite afew strains do it...im sure it can be manipulated with certain feeds..I think high pk levels with probably undeclared hormones in some of the boosters might be a cause of it too

I only saw it once and it came from a non dutch line not seen it since largest flower i saw on the fan leaf was thumb nail size.

 

[Sub24ox7]

I only saw it once and it came from a non dutch line not seen it since largest flower i saw on the fan leaf was thumb nail size.

I have seen it a lot in Dutch genetics, quite a lot.
seems like a common mutation. Not on every fan leaf but a few on a plant. Never seen a plant do that on every large fan leaf. If we could all plant large numbers outdoors that would be the dream.
Would love to get a good look at a strain and plant Up to a thousand of each strain.
Could really select then, I mean shit, think of the vigor of the most vigorous plant out of 1000, or most resinous... etc.. I really think numbers could get someone somewhere really quick.

 

[unnamedmike]

Wooah ! you can start a psychoactive sprout company working this genetic.

 

[LostTribe]

Thanks lost hydro is in my humble opinion the better option for indoors you use sterile medium so no risk of introducing pests to your grow and your plants are able to take up the food as they need it as its all ready broken down to a micro level for the roots to take. You don't need to play around fixing and amending soil and to be honest most potting mix's here are complete shit and use slow release chemical fertilizes any way.If i grow in soil it has to be directly into the ground.

There are many different methods of hydro one can use roots can be a problem in say a NFT system i used one for a bit and found my self needing to cut back roots that were growing down to the rez.

Hydroponics dose not need to be complicated to get great results a simple pot filled with a good quality pre washed coco core medium and good quality nutrient is all you need.You can keep your mom plants in them for a long time only needing to cut back the plants to keep them manageable.

Were things get a little complicated when growing sativas in hydroponics is feeding some sativas like full feeding until your ready to flush and harvest.
Some sativas like full feeding up until they start to sex and from that point need half strength feeding until half way into flowering and then need say 1/4 feeding or just water with a neutral 7Ph till harvest.
Other sativas may only need water with a neutral 7Ph from the start of flower.

It sounds complicated but its not it comes down to the grower knowing the strain /line part of dialing the plant line in i call it.

To grow big plants the max size of bucket i use is 20 Lt i think that's about 5gal i experimented larger smaller sizes but you get no benefit going larger than 20Lt.

Thats also a good point I had not thought about recently. I know with more indica leaning hybrids I always have a couple in the system that suffer while the others are doing great (5 gal soquick "icmag is boring as shit" buckets w 100% hydroton, also have a 2 or 3 gallon set in storage I think).

So far I have all cuttings in the diy aero now at 5 weeks all doing about the same I know added light and more growth and things will start to pop up.

I wouldn't run the Hazes with say og or even c99 I don't think might add a second rez but not a big deal I usually run 14 days dump and refill trying to add back as often as I can. I am thinking to do the 5 gallons and a Horti super hps hanging high vert in the middle. Easy to get 8oz/per plant w 2 weeks on c99 in that setup. Busy with other things until fall.

 

[@hempy]

Thats also a good point I had not thought about recently. I know with more indica leaning hybrids I always have a couple in the system that suffer while the others are doing great (5 gal soquick "icmag is boring as shit" buckets w 100% hydroton, also have a 2 or 3 gallon set in storage I think).

So far I have all cuttings in the diy aero now at 5 weeks all doing about the same I know added light and more growth and things will start to pop up.

I wouldn't run the Hazes with say og or even c99 I don't think might add a second rez but not a big deal I usually run 14 days dump and refill trying to add back as often as I can. I am thinking to do the 5 gallons and a Horti super hps hanging high vert in the middle. Easy to get 8oz/per plant w 2 weeks on c99 in that setup. Busy with other things until fall.

What i do normally is run the sativas or heavy sats on the outer once in flower as far as possible from the lights, I train tie branches away from the lights and by doing so end up with fuller nicer flowers because they as in sativas dont like to be close to intense light in flower.

If there in Veg they can be feed just like indicas its when they start to flower things change with most sativas.

I am a big fan of coco core great medium retains more and yet allows for great aeration deals with heat well.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

I was doing plant maintenance and found more of these on P53 today. This makes 3 Ive found on this pheno. Ive found these on other crosses but never as many on 1 plant.

Teratogenic Cannabis mutation Hammerhead - interesting eh? - some growers never get to see it - fun to see though - nice little 'popcorn' buds -

 

[Raco]

Hola Gypsy



One-of-a-kind item lol

 

[Raco]

Alien stuff ... lmao



Kill her before she reproduces & lays eggs