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The Great Awakening

Is the Great Awakening happening?

  • Yes

    Votes: 16 39.0%

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med4u

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NEW ENGLAND said:
Shhh! 🤫
Nobody wants that to be known.

Just like whites to the rear of the line for Covid care in NY 🤫
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At least they can get in line...non whites only
in my hood...no worries...the chimps will be
putting their scripts on the streets as soon as they can fill em..

Homie economics...:pimp3:
 
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Hempy McNoodle

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Amynamous said:
Follow up to video:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/11/politics/january-6-ray-epps-fbi-false-flag/index.html
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Interesting. I have to catch up with the events of the day. But, I find the unnecessary specificity of the question to be very interesting. I would have asked if he was part of or associated with the intelligence community, political organizations or foriegn governments. Of course he could also be lying... But, it would be very interesting to find out if he is affiliated with CIA. He would have to lie, if he was.
 
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Hempy McNoodle

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med4u said:
At least they can get in line...non whites only
in my hood...no worries...the chimps will be
putting their scripts on the streets as soon as they can fill em..

Homie economics...:pimp3:
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I'd like this thread to be a welcome place for black stoners too, med. The Great Awakening is BIGTIME for THEM! For all of humanity. Make America Great Again means it's up to each of us to do our part to make it a better (and less racist) place.
 
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Hempy McNoodle

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Amynamous said:
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FACT FOCUS: Federal Agents Didn't Orchestrate Jan. 6 | Political News | US News

FACT FOCUS: Federal Agents Didn't Orchestrate Jan. 6

The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection poked another hole in the pro-Trump conspiracy theory that federal agents orchestrated the attack, confirming on Tuesday that a man at the center of the claims said he’d never been an FBI informant.

By Associated Press
|Jan. 11, 2022, at 10:55 p.m.
By ALI SWENSON, Associated Press

The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection poked another hole in the pro-Trump conspiracy theory that federal agents orchestrated the attack, confirming on Tuesday that a man at the center of the claims said he’d never been an FBI informant.

Ray Epps, an Arizona man who was filmed encouraging others to enter the U.S. Capitol, testified that he wasn’t “employed by, working with, or acting at the direction of any law enforcement agency on Jan. 5th or 6th or at any other time,” the committee tweeted on Tuesday.

The committee issued its statement after numerous Republican lawmakers highlighted the fringe theory in recent weeks, including Texas Sen. Ted Cruz in a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Tuesday. Pressed by Cruz, a Justice Department official said she couldn’t say whether FBI agents participated in the insurrection because she couldn’t discuss “the specifics of sources and methods” of the FBI.

Meanwhile, the evidence indicates the mob that invaded the Capitol on Jan. 6 was overwhelmingly made up of Trump supporters who wanted to help the then-president.

Here’s a closer look at the facts:

CLAIM: Ray Epps, who was filmed on Jan. 5 and 6 urging rioters toward the U.S. Capitol, is a federal agent who helped to orchestrate the insurrection.

THE FACTS: There’s no evidence to support that Epps — who has not been arrested or charged in connection with the Jan. 6 riot — was anything but a disgruntled supporter of former President Donald Trump, like thousands of others who descended on the Capitol that day.

The Jan. 6 committee says Epps testified that he wasn’t working for law enforcement, and at this point, no convincing evidence has been provided linking him to federal agents.

Public records show Epps appears to be a 60-year-old Queen Creek, Arizona, business owner. He also appears to have been affiliated in the past with the Oath Keepers, a national militia group, in Arizona. A YouTube video posted by the group in 2011 lists Epps as the “Oath Keepers Arizona Chapter President,” while a man resembling Epps appears in the footage.

The FBI at one point included an image of Epps on a “wanted” list seeking information about those involved in Capitol violence, then deleted the reference in July. But there are plenty of reasons the FBI might remove individuals from the site, including if it no longer needed help locating them or had already interviewed them.

The theory that Epps was an undercover FBI agent grew from a video that circulated on far-right message boards days after the insurrection. It showed Epps on the evening of Jan. 5, urging Trump supporters around him to “peacefully” enter the Capitol the next day.

That video and others of Epps talking to rioters outside the Capitol building ricocheted across social media for months until Rep. Thomas Massie, a Republican from Kentucky, shared the footage in a congressional hearing in October.

Massie asked Attorney General Merrick Garland why the man in the videos hadn’t been charged, and whether federal agents were involved in the riots. Garland said he couldn’t comment on an ongoing federal investigation, per FBI policy, causing claims about Epps to snowball.

The theory was amplified by Revolver News, a fringe news site founded by a former Trump administration speechwriter who lost his job after speaking at a 2016 conference attended by white nationalists. The site claimed that the FBI posting, then removing, an image of Epps from a “Capitol Violence Most Wanted List” showed he was a “Fed-Protected Provocateur” who “Appears To Have Led” the Jan. 6 attack.

That's not proof the man was a federal agent — and there’s no reason right now to believe that any undercover agent galvanized a mob of Trump supporters, many of whom were vocal about their intentions, to attempt to delay the congressional certification of Joe Biden's presidential win.

In fact, an AP review of social media posts, voter registrations, court files and other public records for more than 120 people either facing criminal charges or identified in footage from Jan. 6 showed that the mob was overwhelmingly made up of longtime Trump supporters, including GOP officials and donors, far-right militants, white supremacists, off-duty police, members of the military and conspiracy theory adherents.

Revolver News didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

Conservative blogs and lawmakers have insisted that Epps not being charged with a crime reveals he must be associated with the FBI. But Epps was among thousands of revelers trespassing on the Capitol grounds, many of whom have not been charged.

Republicans who have promoted the theory, including Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida, say they’ve asked the FBI and Justice Department for more information about Epps and his involvement in Jan. 6 to no avail. That’s not surprising. Federal law enforcement officials rarely share details about ongoing investigations. Gaetz gave no indication what led him to believe that Epps was working for the FBI but said he finds the agency’s silence to be concerning.

Asked during testimony before Congress whether there was any reason to believe the insurrection was organized by “fake Trump protesters,” FBI Director Christopher Wray, who was appointed by Trump, said the agency had “not seen evidence of that.”

The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection tweeted on Tuesday that it was aware of claims Epps was an FBI informant, and had interviewed Epps directly.

“Epps informed us that he was not employed by, working with, or acting at the direction of any law enforcement agency on Jan 5th or 6th or at any other time, & that he has never been an informant for the FBI or any other law enforcement agency,” the committee wrote.

Epps told an Associated Press reporter that he’d been advised not to comment and referred questions to his lawyer, who said Tuesday evening that he was not available for comment.

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Associated Press writers Eric Tucker, Josh Kelety and David Klepper contributed to this report.

____

This is part of AP’s effort to address widely shared misinformation, including work with outside companies and organizations to add factual context to misleading content that is circulating online. Learn more about fact-checking at AP.
 
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Hempy McNoodle

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Hempy McNoodle said:
FACT FOCUS: Federal Agents Didn't Orchestrate Jan. 6 | Political News | US News

FACT FOCUS: Federal Agents Didn't Orchestrate Jan. 6

The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection poked another hole in the pro-Trump conspiracy theory that federal agents orchestrated the attack, confirming on Tuesday that a man at the center of the claims said he’d never been an FBI informant.

By Associated Press
|Jan. 11, 2022, at 10:55 p.m.
By ALI SWENSON, Associated Press

The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection poked another hole in the pro-Trump conspiracy theory that federal agents orchestrated the attack, confirming on Tuesday that a man at the center of the claims said he’d never been an FBI informant.

Ray Epps, an Arizona man who was filmed encouraging others to enter the U.S. Capitol, testified that he wasn’t “employed by, working with, or acting at the direction of any law enforcement agency on Jan. 5th or 6th or at any other time,” the committee tweeted on Tuesday.

The committee issued its statement after numerous Republican lawmakers highlighted the fringe theory in recent weeks, including Texas Sen. Ted Cruz in a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Tuesday. Pressed by Cruz, a Justice Department official said she couldn’t say whether FBI agents participated in the insurrection because she couldn’t discuss “the specifics of sources and methods” of the FBI.

Meanwhile, the evidence indicates the mob that invaded the Capitol on Jan. 6 was overwhelmingly made up of Trump supporters who wanted to help the then-president.

Here’s a closer look at the facts:

CLAIM: Ray Epps, who was filmed on Jan. 5 and 6 urging rioters toward the U.S. Capitol, is a federal agent who helped to orchestrate the insurrection.

THE FACTS: There’s no evidence to support that Epps — who has not been arrested or charged in connection with the Jan. 6 riot — was anything but a disgruntled supporter of former President Donald Trump, like thousands of others who descended on the Capitol that day.

The Jan. 6 committee says Epps testified that he wasn’t working for law enforcement, and at this point, no convincing evidence has been provided linking him to federal agents.

Public records show Epps appears to be a 60-year-old Queen Creek, Arizona, business owner. He also appears to have been affiliated in the past with the Oath Keepers, a national militia group, in Arizona. A YouTube video posted by the group in 2011 lists Epps as the “Oath Keepers Arizona Chapter President,” while a man resembling Epps appears in the footage.

The FBI at one point included an image of Epps on a “wanted” list seeking information about those involved in Capitol violence, then deleted the reference in July. But there are plenty of reasons the FBI might remove individuals from the site, including if it no longer needed help locating them or had already interviewed them.

The theory that Epps was an undercover FBI agent grew from a video that circulated on far-right message boards days after the insurrection. It showed Epps on the evening of Jan. 5, urging Trump supporters around him to “peacefully” enter the Capitol the next day.

That video and others of Epps talking to rioters outside the Capitol building ricocheted across social media for months until Rep. Thomas Massie, a Republican from Kentucky, shared the footage in a congressional hearing in October.

Massie asked Attorney General Merrick Garland why the man in the videos hadn’t been charged, and whether federal agents were involved in the riots. Garland said he couldn’t comment on an ongoing federal investigation, per FBI policy, causing claims about Epps to snowball.

The theory was amplified by Revolver News, a fringe news site founded by a former Trump administration speechwriter who lost his job after speaking at a 2016 conference attended by white nationalists. The site claimed that the FBI posting, then removing, an image of Epps from a “Capitol Violence Most Wanted List” showed he was a “Fed-Protected Provocateur” who “Appears To Have Led” the Jan. 6 attack.

That's not proof the man was a federal agent — and there’s no reason right now to believe that any undercover agent galvanized a mob of Trump supporters, many of whom were vocal about their intentions, to attempt to delay the congressional certification of Joe Biden's presidential win.

In fact, an AP review of social media posts, voter registrations, court files and other public records for more than 120 people either facing criminal charges or identified in footage from Jan. 6 showed that the mob was overwhelmingly made up of longtime Trump supporters, including GOP officials and donors, far-right militants, white supremacists, off-duty police, members of the military and conspiracy theory adherents.

Revolver News didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

Conservative blogs and lawmakers have insisted that Epps not being charged with a crime reveals he must be associated with the FBI. But Epps was among thousands of revelers trespassing on the Capitol grounds, many of whom have not been charged.

Republicans who have promoted the theory, including Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida, say they’ve asked the FBI and Justice Department for more information about Epps and his involvement in Jan. 6 to no avail. That’s not surprising. Federal law enforcement officials rarely share details about ongoing investigations. Gaetz gave no indication what led him to believe that Epps was working for the FBI but said he finds the agency’s silence to be concerning.

Asked during testimony before Congress whether there was any reason to believe the insurrection was organized by “fake Trump protesters,” FBI Director Christopher Wray, who was appointed by Trump, said the agency had “not seen evidence of that.”

The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection tweeted on Tuesday that it was aware of claims Epps was an FBI informant, and had interviewed Epps directly.

“Epps informed us that he was not employed by, working with, or acting at the direction of any law enforcement agency on Jan 5th or 6th or at any other time, & that he has never been an informant for the FBI or any other law enforcement agency,” the committee wrote.

Epps told an Associated Press reporter that he’d been advised not to comment and referred questions to his lawyer, who said Tuesday evening that he was not available for comment.

____

Associated Press writers Eric Tucker, Josh Kelety and David Klepper contributed to this report.

____

This is part of AP’s effort to address widely shared misinformation, including work with outside companies and organizations to add factual context to misleading content that is circulating online. Learn more about fact-checking at AP.
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The big question is not so specific as whether he was an "FBI informant" or working with "law enforcement agencies." It is "why is he not charged or in prison as others are? Theres really no other explaination than he is being protected. The question to ask is "was he there working at anyone else's behest (on behalf of any organization, foreign government, intelligence agency, pharmaceutical company, George Soros, etc). And, btw he could definitely still be lying.

That's why the BIG question is: "Why are some rotting in jail without due process and without charges in some cases and all while Ray Epps mysteriously roams free even though he is one of the primary instigators??

And, if Christopher Ray says that he hasn't seen evidence of "fake Trump protesters" and YOU KNOW ABOUT JOHN SULLIVAN. Then you know that that doesn't add up right. I would guess that the awkward (yet, specific) wording "fake Trump protesters," was used by Ray to make a technically correct statement and have it be misconstrued by "normies" (most people). This is what would be referred to as a strategic communication strategy. The phrase "fake Trump protesters" will be accepted by normies to mean: people like John Sullivan who dressed like a Trump "supporter." In other words a "fake Trump supporter." Whereas, here, Christopher Ray is intentionally answering the question of "fake trump protesters" Which literally (or, technically) would referre to a person who acts like a anti-trump protester, but who is actually pro trump. Precise language is useful at times. This is an example of 'precise language' being used with the expectation that it will be misconstrued by people who don't recognize such language. Obama's speech writer and foreign policy advisor, Ben Rhoades was truly a master of this skill.
 
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Hempy McNoodle

Well-known member
So, did the FBI remove Epps's photo from their "WANTED" list? Why?
Why didn't the article above address this point? Not important?

Ask yourself: What is the difference between this "journalism" and REAL journalism?
 
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Hempy McNoodle

Well-known member
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Hempy McNoodle

Well-known member
Hempy McNoodle said:
The big question is not so specific as whether he was an "FBI informant" or working with "law enforcement agencies." It is "why is he not charged or in prison as others are? Theres really no other explaination than he is being protected. The question to ask is "was he there working at anyone else's behest (on behalf of any organization, foreign government, intelligence agency, pharmaceutical company, George Soros, etc). And, btw he could definitely still be lying.

That's why the BIG question is: "Why are some rotting in jail without due process and without charges in some cases and all while Ray Epps mysteriously roams free even though he is one of the primary instigators??

And, if Christopher Ray says that he hasn't seen evidence of "fake Trump protesters" and YOU KNOW ABOUT JOHN SULLIVAN. Then you know that that doesn't add up right. I would guess that the awkward (yet, specific) wording "fake Trump protesters," was used by Ray to make a technically correct statement and have it be misconstrued by "normies" (most people). This is what would be referred to as a strategic communication strategy. The phrase "fake Trump protesters" will be accepted by normies to mean: people like John Sullivan who dressed like a Trump "supporter." In other words a "fake Trump supporter." Whereas, here, Christopher Ray is intentionally answering the question of "fake trump protesters" Which literally (or, technically) would referre to a person who acts like a anti-trump protester, but who is actually pro trump. Precise language is useful at times. This is an example of 'precise language' being used with the expectation that it will be misconstrued by people who don't recognize such language. Obama's speech writer and foreign policy advisor, Ben Rhoades was truly a master of this skill.
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Exhibit A:

(From [www] cia.gov )

Top 10 CIA Myths - CIA

Myth 5: The CIA has law enforcement authority and all CIA officers carry guns

The public often confuses the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) responsibilities with that of the CIA. The two agencies work closely together, but their roles in keeping America safe are very different. The CIA is not a law enforcement agency. The CIA’s responsibility is to collect intelligence and information overseas. When conducting our mission overseas, we take steps to safeguard any information on Americans that could be incidentally collected. The FBI is the government agency that investigates crimes on American soil and against American citizens abroad. The FBI is also responsible for intelligence matters in the United States, especially those directed against US citizens.
 
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Hempy McNoodle

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Hempy McNoodle said:
Exhibit A:

(From [www] cia.gov )

Top 10 CIA Myths - CIA

Myth 5: The CIA has law enforcement authority and all CIA officers carry guns

The public often confuses the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) responsibilities with that of the CIA. The two agencies work closely together, but their roles in keeping America safe are very different. The CIA is not a law enforcement agency. The CIA’s responsibility is to collect intelligence and information overseas. When conducting our mission overseas, we take steps to safeguard any information on Americans that could be incidentally collected. The FBI is the government agency that investigates crimes on American soil and against American citizens abroad. The FBI is also responsible for intelligence matters in the United States, especially those directed against US citizens.
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Now re-read the specific verbage...

Ray Epps, an Arizona man who was filmed encouraging others to enter the U.S. Capitol, testified that he wasn’t “employed by, working with, or acting at the direction of any law enforcement agency on Jan. 5th or 6th or at any other time,” the committee tweeted on Tuesday.​
 
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Hempy McNoodle

Well-known member
So, it's confirmed. Epps was on the WANTED list and was removed and is not charged. We have an extremely dangerous (worse than "bin Laden") terrorist roaming free in our society?? How does that make you all feel? (I'm talking to the Trump haters)

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Hempy McNoodle

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"The public often confuses the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) responsibilities with that of the CIA. The two agencies work closely together, but..."
 
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