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The 2020 Presidential Election

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Hammerhead

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I have medicare. Comparing it to what I had when I was working its not as good. I had no copay for anything. Now I pay 25$ every time I need a Dr apt or do blood work. Depending on whats done that can go up. MRI is $175 copay. Medication is completely different. I pay something for any meds. Having said that I've never had any issues with it. I can change to any Kaiser Dr anytime I want. I can change my provider at open enrollment every year.
 

aridbud

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Strictly Medicare, 20% is the amount you pay. If in excellent health, that's not a big deal.

Going with Medicare Advantage plan, if you are paying for Part B Medicare, often $0 co-pays, but you still pay a portion for MRI's. Routine blood work, nada$.

Tiers and formularies as with insurance where you worked, a percentage or standard formulary (drug list) amount. Mail order, I pay zip for most Rx. Have to go to pharmacy for 1 Rx.
 

Dr. Purpur

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I have medicare. Comparing it to what I had when I was working its not as good. I had no copay for anything. Now I pay 25$ every time I need a Dr apt or do blood work. Depending on whats done that can go up. MRI is $175 copay. Medication is completely different. I pay something for any meds. Having said that I've never had any issues with it. I can change to any Kaiser Dr anytime I want. I can change my provider at open enrollment every year.


Because of the rising doctor visit costs, my copays are more then they were before Obama did his magic. The old Cadillac insurance is a thing of the past for many companies
 

packerfan79

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I have medicare. Comparing it to what I had when I was working its not as good. I had no copay for anything. Now I pay 25$ every time I need a Dr apt or do blood work. Depending on whats done that can go up. MRI is $175 copay. Medication is completely different. I pay something for any meds. Having said that I've never had any issues with it. I can change to any Kaiser Dr anytime I want. I can change my provider at open enrollment every year.

Kaiser Permanente, is a solid insurance system.I wish I could afford a comparable insurance. I did have Kaiser when I was in the union. The union's are not happy with the elimination of the healthcare system their representatives fought for. I don't see Kaiser withstanding the elimination of private insurance. Most of the Democratic candidates raised their hands when they were asked if they would outlaw private insurance companies.

We do need to fix healthcare, but I just don't trust the government to fix what the crony corporatism bullshit they enable caused. Nobody is addressing the issue honestly, and productively. Not the GOP or the Dems. I think Yang could have come up with some actual ideas, but he's not dynamic enough to be a serious candidate.
 

White Beard

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Because of the rising doctor visit costs, my copays are more then they were before Obama did his magic. The old Cadillac insurance is a thing of the past for many companies

Don’t you remember how Trump’s healthcare improvements were going to help everybody, by being so much better that “Obamacare”? Funny, lots of people predicted this would happen....
 

DJXX

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No King here my friend, we fought a war to make sure of that.
some of us fought in a war, but can you guess who didn't fight...but of course you give him a pass for hiding from Vietnam, fukn coward...were you ever in the military?? Two sides to each story huh...you probably say that about the 20 plus women who came forward bout his sexual assaults bordering on rape...again you defend him no matter what....did you know Trump still has 3500 lawsuits still on the books for non payment for completed work...oh but there are two sides to the story...the two sides to this story are...rich people can afford to lawyer up and the poor hard working folks cant afford to lawyer up so Trump gets away with this too...again you find it simple to give him a pass...this guy could shit right in your mouth and say its oatmeal and you would just eat it up... There is really no reason to talk my political beliefs with you...you only see it thru the Trump lens.....you should work for Fox news..with Jim Hannity, Judge Jeannine Piero, Tucker Carlson, and all the rest of the Fox hosts that are on that wavelength...also bet you are a fan of Ben Shapiro, Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones too...again jus my 2 cents.....when America files for bankruptcy which it will under his watch, you will find a way to give him a pass and blame it on the socialists dems...now look at what tariffs have done to our truckdrivers and farmers...let me hear your mouth full of crap on this.....DJXX
 

packerfan79

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some of us fought in a war, but can you guess who didn't fight...but of course you give him a pass for hiding from Vietnam, fukn coward...were you ever in the military?? Two sides to each story huh...you probably say that about the 20 plus women who came forward bout his sexual assaults bordering on rape...again you defend him no matter what....did you know Trump still has 3500 lawsuits still on the books for non payment for completed work...oh but there are two sides to the story...the two sides to this story are...rich people can afford to lawyer up and the poor hard working folks cant afford to lawyer up so Trump gets away with this too...again you find it simple to give him a pass...this guy could shit right in your mouth and say its oatmeal and you would just eat it up... There is really no reason to talk my political beliefs with you...you only see it thru the Trump lens.....you should work for Fox news..with Jim Hannity, Judge Jeannine Piero, Tucker Carlson, and all the rest of the Fox hosts that are on that wavelength...also bet you are a fan of Ben Shapiro, Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones too...again jus my 2 cents.....when America files for bankruptcy which it will under his watch, you will find a way to give him a pass and blame it on the socialists dems...now look at what tariffs have done to our truckdrivers and farmers...let me hear your mouth full of crap on this.....DJXX

I tried to have a reasonable conversation about it, I guess wasn't possible. I asked you twice if your policy preferences changed, but you won't answer. My political beliefs are based on policy. I will keep my mouth full of crap as you say to myself. It's been real.
:tiphat:
 

bigtacofarmer

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I tried to have a reasonable conversation about it, I guess wasn't possible. I asked you twice if your policy preferences changed, but you won't answer. My political beliefs are based on policy. I will keep my mouth full of crap as you say to myself. It's been real.
:tiphat:

If he lies and cheats in every other apect of life what is it that makes you think he is not lying too and cheating you also?
 

Zeez

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Me too,my wife opened the bathroom door,and almost caught me!
Luckily I had my decoy magazine handy with Sarah Huckabee on the cover. :dance013:

I want her to get in there, raise hell and kick some Mitch McConnell ass.

So,,,, You're a subscriber to Fester's Monthly?
 

NEW ENGLAND

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I want her to get in there, raise hell and kick some Mitch McConnell ass.

So,,,, You're a subscriber to Fester's Monthly?

Fester's....hahaha....yep I use it as a decoy so my wife doesnt catch me with Fister's Daily.....LMFAO
 

Zeez

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Anybody do any reading on Mitch's wife Elaine Lan Chao?

They are like Bonnie and Clyde on a grand scale and no folk hero either.
 

gaiusmarius

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AOC gets schooled by Thomas Homan of ICE

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sorry, but she is an air head, from lying about drinking from toilets to putting illegal border crossers in the same category as refugees seeking asylum officially, to voting against the funds to make things better in those same detention centers, all while loudly deploring the "horrific" conditions on twitter etc.
 

Zeez

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Fester's....hahaha....yep I use it as a decoy so my wife doesnt catch me with Fister's Daily.....LMFAO

I hope she didn't catch you looking at the pictures again. :biggrin:

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