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The 2020 Presidential Election

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Zeez

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Watching an interview with Bernie on TRMS. There's no question, Bernie really gets it.
 

Dr. Purpur

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Watching an interview with Bernie on TRMS. There's no question, Bernie really gets it.

You know what I like about him? He was the most mature candidate last time. I don't agree with all of his ideas, as I am a capitalist after all. But I do like him. I loved that bird tweet he had too!:biggrin: Remember when the bird landed on his podium, with thousands of people there? That's was hella kool!
 

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Also interesting.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-the-true-origins-of-the-seth-rich-conspiracy-a-yahoo-news-investigation-100000831.html

Interesting, but I have never said Seth Rich was the source of the emails. I have no clue who actually hacked the emails. I doubt Muller even knows who the hacker is. Maybe if the DNC had turned over the servers the FBI could have figured it out.

The Russians have been doing shady shit in our elections since ww2. You want to read some interesting things about Russia and election interference, look up the gray cardinal.
 

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Interesting, but I have never said Seth Rich was the source of the emails. I have no clue who actually hacked the emails. I doubt Muller even knows who the hacker is. Maybe if the DNC had turned over the servers the FBI could have figured it out.

The Russians have been doing shady shit in our elections since ww2. You want to read some interesting things about Russia and election interference, look up the gray cardinal.

It’s in the Mueller report who hacked the emails. Russian GRU, unit 26165 gathered and unit 74455 disseminated it. A lot more detail in the report.

Mueller shows the first Russian effort to hack Hillarys personal and campaign emails happened five hours after trump publicly asking if Russia was listening, to find the 30,000 missing emails.
 

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It’s in the Mueller report who hacked the emails. Russian GRU, unit 26165 gathered and unit 74455 disseminated it. A lot more detail in the report.

Mueller shows the first Russian effort to hack Hillarys personal and campaign emails happened five hours after trump publicly asking if Russia was listening, to find the 30,000 missing emails.

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/07/05/crowdstrikeout_muellers_own_report_undercuts_its_core_russia-meddling_claims.html
 

Zeez

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You know what I like about him? He was the most mature candidate last time. I don't agree with all of his ideas, as I am a capitalist after all. But I do like him. I loved that bird tweet he had too!:biggrin: Remember when the bird landed on his podium, with thousands of people there? That's was hella kool!

Capitalism can only work if we have a healthy middle class so there must be jobs, education, opportunity and upward mobility. I really think that Bernie is all about true capitalism that survives and that what we have now is out of control greedy rich people manipulating the system for unscrupulous excess. The road we are on now leads to revolution.
 

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Whose gonna need work if everything is free?....if by some miracle/cheating a Demorat gets in
I'm gonna quit working and paying taxes... move up to my compound,grow weed and collect me some free shit...
Sounds like a nice lil retirement pakage... hmmm.

Put some Ying in my Yang 2020
 
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Well it looks like Sunday ICE will be busy,Trump gave Pelosi,and Congress the 2 weeks to fix the loopholes.
Sure they threw some money to DHS to food and diapers.
But,that's just sticking a finger in the dike,nothing to solve the crisis at the border.
 

Zeez

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Watch Cannavore's vid!

Fish face just sits there with an arrogant, belligerent, unconcerned, unaffected, disconnected attitude and refutes reality.

This is still going on. Worse than ever.

At least Greenspan finally got it.
 

TychoMonolyth

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Watch Cannavore's vid!

Fish face just sits there with an arrogant, belligerent, unconcerned, unaffected, disconnected attitude and refutes reality.

This is still going on. Worse than ever.

At least Greenspan finally got it.
Watch some sitting up there with Bernie. They're smiling at Greenspan getting an ass kicking. Lol
 

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https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/07/05/crowdstrikeout_muellers_own_report_undercuts_its_core_russia-meddling_claims.html

thats an opinion story that claims the Mueller report “essentially cleared trump”.

only right leaning spin types think 10 examples of obstruction puts someone in the clear.

Are you able to form your own thoughts about the hacked emails based on the Mueller report?
 

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Capitalism can only work if we have a healthy middle class so there must be jobs, education, opportunity and upward mobility. I really think that Bernie is all about true capitalism that survives and that what we have now is out of control greedy rich people manipulating the system for unscrupulous excess. The road we are on now leads to revolution.

What's crazy is the guy they call a socialist probabaly has some of the most free market capitalist solutions to our problems.

You cant get more capitalist than trust busting monopolies like the large banks that control more than half of the US's total economic assets. It would spur tons of actual market competition.
 

Zeez

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What's crazy is the guy they call a socialist probabaly has some of the most free market capitalist solutions to our problems.

You cant get more capitalist than trust busting monopolies like the large banks that control more than half of the US's total economic assets. It would spur tons of actual market competition.

You said it. They almost drove us into depression and then they made money on the bailout while people lost their jobs and home values dropped be 50%. Nobody went to jail and there was no clawback on the profiteering. Goldman Sachs made huge money.

He's been telling everyone for decades what the problem is and what we need to do to fix it.
 

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You said it. They almost drove us into depression and then they made money on the bailout while people lost their jobs and home values dropped be 50%. Nobody went to jail and there was no clawback on the profiteering. Goldman Sachs made huge money.

He's been telling everyone for decades what the problem is and what we need to do to fix it.


Bush is a stinker.
 

Brother Nature

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We thought he was bad and had no idea how bad it could get.


I don't know. Trump is pretty laughable, but his damage is really only domestic compared to what happened under Bush II. The people behind Trump don't seem like the Rumsfield or Cheney types in the Bush admin. Not a lot has gone to plan yet, look at Venezuela, North Korea, Iran, China, etc... none of those so far have escelated to the level of disaster and clusterfuckery that was the Iraq/Afghanistan war. That's not to excuse the embarrassment that Trump is, but the last Bush admin did a lot more damage internationally than this current clown show.
 

Zeez

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Killing people is bad business. Concentration camps (torture) and trillion dollar tax breaks for financial gluttons are bad business too.

Which is worse? Tough call.

We are empowered to fix this one if we choose.

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Obama fixed the Bush mess where we went killing the wrong people over 9-11and knew it.
 
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