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These dummies need to fix the broken immigration policy so we wont have to worry about grants for sanctuary cities. I guarantee as soon as the next DEM gets back into the white house those grants will get reinstated. Round and round we go.
 
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These dummies need to fix the broken immigration policy so we wont have to worry about grants for sanctuary cities. I guarantee as soon as the next DEM gets back into the white house those grants will get reinstated. Round and round we go.

Yet the left goes breathlessly about Trump's policies like they can't ever be undone.
 

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I'm pretty sure Bernie used a talking point he thought was something good for Cuban children. People put way to much importance on comments like that. Everyone sticks there foot in there month from time to time. In no way does Bernie think Fidel Castro was a good man. Since most Dems/Rep are afraid of Bernies policies there gonna make everything he does look worse.
 

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It is Bernie's fault for being able to see the bright side of anything. He really did put his foot in his mouth there. I am sure it will be taken way out of context by everyone. I doubt most Americans know anything about Cuba's education system. I don't. It was news to me that Castro did anything positive for his people. It also explains why Cubans can keep a car running from the 50's with homemade parts.
 
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I'm pretty sure Bernie used a talking point he thought was something good for Cuban children. People put way to much importance on comments like that. Everyone sticks there foot in there month from time to time. In no way does Bernie think Fidel Castro was a good man. Since most Dems/Rep are afraid of Bernies policies there gonna make everything he does look worse.

He seems to have a history of sticking his foot in his mouth. Along with a non existent work history and no real accomplishments as a member of congress.


“You Might Very Well Be the Cause of Cancer”: Read Bernie Sanders’ 1970s-Era Essays
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/bernie-sanders-vermont-freeman-sexual-freedom-fluoride/


Suddenly I'm supposed to believe he's going to remake the entire system in the name of social justice. What kind of drugs are we supposed to be taking to believe this tripe.

It's like hiring a mechanic to fix your car who's only qualification was advocating for free cars for 30 years.
 

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He seems to have a history of sticking his foot in his mouth. Along with a non existent work history and no real accomplishments as a member of congress.


“You Might Very Well Be the Cause of Cancer”: Read Bernie Sanders’ 1970s-Era Essays
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/bernie-sanders-vermont-freeman-sexual-freedom-fluoride/


Suddenly I'm supposed to believe he's going to remake the entire system in the name of social justice. What kind of drugs are we supposed to be taking to believe this tripe.

It's like hiring a mechanic to fix your car who's only qualification was advocating for free cars for 30 years.


Let us believe what we want. Most of us also believe scientists (smarter than politicians) and our voting habits likely reflect that.

Explain why you believe in economy where the debt is rising faster than ever before. The cost of living is going up. Wages are still low. Most of the country lives paycheck to paycheck. And the most powerful people in the country just made hundreds of billions of dollars?
 

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Yeah - the medical and education systems in Cuba - are world renowned - even in sports like boxing they excel on the world stage - which is unusual for such a small nation - of around 12 Million people -
 
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Let us believe what we want. Most of us also believe scientists (smarter than politicians) and our voting habits likely reflect that.

Explain why you believe in economy where the debt is rising faster than ever before. The cost of living is going up. Wages are still low. Most of the country lives paycheck to paycheck. And the most powerful people in the country just made hundreds of billions of dollars?

Because you and millions of Americans have NO clue how our system of debt based fiat currency works.


You are concerned about the countries debt but support a candidate who wants to spend an additional 2 - 5 Trillion dollars a year? No I'm sorry higher taxes on Billionaires won't be close to enough money to pay for Bern's new social justice policies. That's why a close look at Bernie's plans is full of fuzzy math.


Bernie touts the green new deal as a potential to produce 20 million new jobs.............After he eliminates 30 million jobs in the fossil fuel industry.

He wants to eliminate private health insurance and it's millions of workers. I'd be willing to bet those folks will find new jobs in government to run single payer. Government jobs pay more than private sector jobs.
 

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So you just want to keep it the same failed system we've had for decades. It has to start somewhere. The dems/rep are not gonna ever do it.



Im OK with giving Bernie a chance. Bernie has 4 years to show us what he can do for us not the rich.
 

Mr. J

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Anybody who wants more government is an idiot. You are grownups who need a surrogate mommy to take care of you and to protect you from the dangers of the world. When has more government control over the lives of individuals actually made life better for those people?? Like in history? The answer is never.
 
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So you just want to keep it the same failed system we've had for decades. It has to start somewhere. The dems/rep are not gonna ever do it.



Im OK with giving Bernie a chance. Bernie has 4 years to show us what he can do for us not the rich.

I'd give anyone a chance if they had a record of accomplishments other than appealing to ignorant right brain thinkers with unattainable goals unsupported by 1/2 of the voters.

You don't know what I want. The "system" produced one of the richest and most diverse countries in the world. Money and corruption have turned it to what it is today. Any system can be corrupted by money and greed.
 

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I can't believe Trump is picking on Sanctuary cities again.
When will he show compassion,those poor folks are our future Mr Trump(shithead)they have just as much right to be here as any American citizen.Shame on you!!!!
 

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I'd give anyone a chance if they had a record of accomplishments other than appealing to ignorant right brain thinkers with unattainable goals unsupported by 1/2 of the voters.

You don't know what I want. The "system" produced one of the richest and most diverse countries in the world. Money and corruption have turned it to what it is today. Any system can be corrupted by money and greed.


LOL typical, anyone that has a different outlook is ignorant. Bernie doesn't want more GOV. That's a total BS rep talking point. Most people have been so brainwashed what they think Socialism is its pathetic. Bernie doesnt want our country to be Socialist.

Trumpturd had no record to base a vote on yet these weak minded people still voted for a moron anyway. Not much gets passed in congress without support from others. How could Bernie get anything done with a Dem Socialist title. Hes been black listed for 40 years. We want dramatic social change.
 

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Because you and millions of Americans have NO clue how our system of debt based fiat currency works.


You are concerned about the countries debt but support a candidate who wants to spend an additional 2 - 5 Trillion dollars a year? No I'm sorry higher taxes on Billionaires won't be close to enough money to pay for Bern's new social justice policies. That's why a close look at Bernie's plans is full of fuzzy math.


Bernie touts the green new deal as a potential to produce 20 million new jobs.............After he eliminates 30 million jobs in the fossil fuel industry.

He wants to eliminate private health insurance and it's millions of workers. I'd be willing to bet those folks will find new jobs in government to run single payer. Government jobs pay more than private sector jobs.


Sir. I believe you have been fooled. Sorry to be the one to break it too you. But the people you support are crooks and liars. And all evidence proves it. I am not sure where you learned math. But buy a calculator and go look up Bernie's plan on his website.
 
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LOL typical, anyone that has a different outlook is ignorant. Bernie doesn't want more GOV. That's a total BS rep talking point. Most people have been so brainwashed what they think Socialism is its pathetic. Bernie doesnt want our country to be Socialist.

Trumpturd had no record to base a vote on yet these weak minded people still voted for a moron anyway. Not much gets passed in congress without support from others. How could Bernie get anything done with a Dem Socialist title. Hes been black listed for 40 years. We want dramatic social change.

You can start by educating yourself on debt based fiat currency and how it affects wages, wealth distribution and inflation.

Then head over to the AMA and look in to their control over the number of doctors and universities that educate doctors. Then ask yourself how much would healthcare cost if we had as many doctors as we have lawyers.


Bernie does not speak to problems of inequality as it relates to the Federal Reserve bank. He just spouts the same crap about giving our corrupt government more money.... and we are supposed to believe this huge corrupt body with a deeply entrenched workforce dependent on the status quo will magically transform to a social justice dynamo.


How many years have you listened politicians making promises they don't keep? Why do you believe someone who's list of ambitions makes him unqualified for the tasks when you read his resume?
 
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So how much emphasis do folks think the media will put on the south Carolina results? Per the Google's, 2012 was the only time SC went to the dems, it isnt a state they will win in. I dont see why it is relevant to the broad electability discussion. It is like winning the primary amongst the 10 Democrats that live in KS, it doesnt matter since they aren't going to win in the general. Same as it doesnt matter about winning CA/NY/MA/IL, those states are going to go for the dems. I want to know who can carry the rust belt and ideally Florida.
 
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