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The 2020 Presidential Election

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NEW ENGLAND

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Its all about getting one part of the electorate all pissed off at another - so they all vote in a block - for the party making a fuss about it - no matter if their is any truth in it or not - and no one stands up and disputes it - because they themselves then become a target - for some 'r' word accusations -

Inventing racism where it doesn't exist,that's divisive in itself.Hopefully the average American of any race isn't taken to a hospital with a preconceived notion that they will not be treated as a human being.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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Yes - but this ploy is often used to racial segregate the vote - all doctors have to follow the Hippocratic Oath - and treat all humans equally -

The Modern Hippocratic Oath -

I swear to fulfil, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:

I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.

I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

I will protect the environment which sustains us, in the knowledge that the continuing health of ourselves and our societies is dependent on a healthy planet.

I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and am remembered with affection thereafter.

May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath


Inventing racism where it doesn't exist,that's divisive in itself.Hopefully the average American of any race isn't taken to a hospital with a preconceived notion that they will not be treated as a human being.
 

h.h.

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Pied piper pete was at it again last night.
Stating that if you are black, your pain management in a hospital setting is not treated effectively, or adequately.
Part of the requirements for pain management in a healthcare setting is documentation.when the nurse,or doctor asks the patient what their pain level is on a scale of 0-10 this is done prior to being medicated,and shortly after being medicated.The goal is to get the patients pain to a tolerable level,let's say <3 on that scale of 0-10.

Like I have previously stated,20 years in healthcare,and yet to see a patient have pain medication held for the color of a person's skin.....it does NOT happen.
I understand he has a poor record of helping the black community in South bend,but to suck up to the black voters by outright lying is shameful.What if you're Gay,
how is your pain addressed ? What if you are asian?
Typical politician I suppose,some things just aren't going to change.Unfortunate that when he spouts that shit not one nurse or dr stands up in these town hall's,and calls him on it.He's accusing healthcare professionals of premeditated malpractice due to racism,and people don't speak out,I dont understand it.

From the Buttigieg website;

. It means that a Black mother’s emotional pain after giving birth isn’t taken seriously by her doctors, so her postpartum depression goes undiagnosed. Or that a Black man who visits an emergency room is undertreated with pain medication, or that his chest pain is less aggressively monitored and investigated.

I find the best medical care seems to be near the schools. From there it spreads out to the the high dollar areas. It goes downhill from there. Some doctors are just better than others. They go where the money is. More to do with being poor than being black. More to do with being rural.

Buttigieg just doesn’t get it.
 

Hammerhead

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I wont even bother quoting that garbage. I will say The pot calling the kettle black is spot on with GB. If my poor grammar is whats important you have serious issues. Going over the last few pages I think most everyone agrees all you do is troll.:biggrin:

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White Beard

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So, when Trump the Impeached gave 28 Billion dollars to the corporate farmers to try and keep their support after he screwed them over with his trade war tariffs, was that socialism or not?
Hush money. If you’ve never been in a position that involved hush money, lemme break it down: a noob, say, at a new job. Gets oriented, gets told what’s what, the rules, the infractions, the penalties, first day at work. During shift, noob sees things, discovers a scheme to skim money from the company - or is approached directly, introduced to the scheme: here’s what we do, here’s how we work it; shoves cash in your pocket, says ‘there’s your share for today - if you’re in, there’s plenty more where that came from. And if you’re *out* - don’t come back.

Seeing as he dedicated the better part orf an hour copying and pasting several of my posts today in an effort to shame me and shut me up
Then yes I'm not above a little schadenfreude.Well at least in this moment by July I doubt I even remember because his opinion is meaningless to me.

False. You’re obviously shameless, and you can’t even shut yourself up. In fact, from your remarks so far, there’s not much you’re ‘above’ at all
 

Gry

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Pied piper pete was at it again last night.
Stating that if you are black, your pain management in a hospital setting is not treated effectively, or adequately.
Part of the requirements for pain management in a healthcare setting is documentation.when the nurse,or doctor asks the patient what their pain level is on a scale of 0-10 this is done prior to being medicated,and shortly after being medicated.The goal is to get the patients pain to a tolerable level,let's say <3 on that scale of 0-10.

Like I have previously stated,20 years in healthcare,and yet to see a patient have pain medication held for the color of a person's skin.....it does NOT happen.
I understand he has a poor record of helping the black community in South bend,but to suck up to the black voters by outright lying is shameful.What if you're Gay,
how is your pain addressed ? What if you are asian?
Typical politician I suppose,some things just aren't going to change.Unfortunate that when he spouts that shit not one nurse or dr stands up in these town hall's,and calls him on it.He's accusing healthcare professionals of premeditated malpractice due to racism,and people don't speak out,I dont understand it.

To state that you have not seen it, is one thing.
To deny it even happens is quite another.
Would like to think it is very rare, but sadly
that far from true.
Medscape has a piece it keeps in almost
constant rotation, sadly because is so
damned common.

My interest in the subject is,
my spouse worked in public health.
Implicit bias + us healthcare
 

Hammerhead

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Venezuela had/has super corrupt people running there gov. When bad people control everything its doomed to fail. They where selling passports to known terrorists under false names.
 

'Boogieman'

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Just memes I think are funny, don't take it too seriously.
 

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White Beard

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and artificially keeping interest rates down and giving welfare to farmers and corporations? [also the bailout of 07-08]
Unclear how much overlap exists/has existed between Keynesian methodology and Federal Reserve policy...Keynesian impact of the Bush Meltdown, I dunno...not sure Summers and Bernanke qualify as Keynesian

Trump the aquitted... I know liberal sissys like to change words and meanings.
And I know “conservative” trolls only care about attacks and ‘points’ - case in point, the so-called ‘acquittal’ of Trump by the Senate. That’s not of course what happened: the House decides the matter of impeachment, the Senate decides on removal. Trump was not “acquitted of anything. He was retained as president. That is all.

They did not decide he was ”not guilty”, they decided they didn’t care, that he could keep the job. Not the same thing at all.

So is it still being screwed over when the screwee supports the screwing ?

Cause that sounds consensual to me.Or dose screwing over not mean what I think it dose ? I know liberal sissys like to change words and meanings around for example saying you support border control means your a racist white supremacist now...And you don't even have to be white anymore.

The screwing doesn’t depend on whether the screwee ends up enjoying it: it’s still a screw job: that money came from you and me, and Baby Huey and Moscow Mitch are going to want US to replace it...but clearly there’s no guarantee tax money will go where the House directs (you remember the Constitution, right? House allots money, sets spending priorities - not the president).

The farmers aren’t the screwees - we are. Don’t forget to wave goodbye to due process as it sails away....

Pro tip: learn what words mean before you get jiggy with your vocabulary and decide you’re a freakin dictionary
 

Cannavore

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Venezuela had/has super corrupt people running there gov. When bad people control everything its doomed to fail. They where selling passports to known terrorists under false names.

and crippling levels of US sanctions that are aiding if not driving Venezuelan starvation and chaos.
 

Hammerhead

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and crippling levels of US sanctions that are aiding if not driving Venezuelan starvation and chaos.


Those sanctions got imposed for there corruption. Most of there issues where caused by there own Gov. Gangs in that country are some of the worst. The government negotiated with large criminal gangs on how to prevent violence and agreed to avoid policing gang territory in what were known as "peace zones", reinforcing criminal behaviors and making gang practices de facto law..
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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Can Bernie just get the Federal Reserve/Congress etc - to give him $60 Trillion - to cover all his well intentioned programs - if he does become President? - I see that Trump has been having problems getting enough for his wall - Will Bernie have similar problems getting money - to cover what he plans to do?
 

Mr. J

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Can Bernie just get the Federal Reserve/Congress etc - to give him $60 Trillion - to cover all his well intentioned programs - if he does become President? - I see that Trump has been having problems getting enough for his wall - Will Bernie have similar problems getting money - to cover what he plans to do?
This. Do you bernouts actually believe that he will be able to implement any of his crazy schemes? You're really dumb if you think he will.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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$60 Trillion - is about 5 Nimitz sized aircraft carriers full of hundred dollar bills - that's a big printing job for someone - if it was all in cash -
 
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