The 2020 Presidential Election

[Dr. Purpur]

Bernie 2020

Learn to cope kiddo

If Putin is for him, who can stand against

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Hoax! Coup! Fake news!

We have ways around all of that now.

 

[GeorgeWBush]

So just so you know per capita does not change with population size. That is why the term is used. Mr D Can you help me out here?

edit; https://www.statista.com/topics/831/per-capita-expenditure/

Are you kidding me right now ?
Just so you know per capita absolute dose change according to population size.
I guess your missing what per capita is in essence it's an equation to figure an average amount per person.
So stop being a snarky asshole I engaged in a good faith disscssion with you and it turns out you haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about.And trying to belittle me to distract from the FACT that you're clueless wont change that

 

[mean mr.mustard]

If you didn't call people names when you talked to them they will be more inclined to attempt clarification over abandoning a frustrating dead end.

Belittle away hypocrite.

 

[Capra ibex]

Are you kidding me right now ?
Just so you know per capita absolute dose change according to population size.
I guess your missing what per capita is in essence it's an equation to figure an average amount per person.
So stop being a snarky asshole I engaged in a good faith disscssion with you and it turns out you haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about.And trying to belittle me to distract from the FACT that you're clueless wont change that

Per capita means per person on average.... so it does not change regardless of how many people there are.... IT IS THE AVERAGE.

Per capita and per person is the exact same thing.

 

[GeorgeWBush]

Per capita means per person on average.... so it does not change regardless of how many people there are.... IT IS THE AVERAGE.

Per capita and per person is the exact same thing.

The avg.Changes on the population size ...Say you need to reach 10 billion dollars in 2 diff countrys one country has 5 billion people the other 2.5 billion
The PER CAPITA to reach 10 billion in country 1 is 2 bucks in country 2 it's 4 bucks. Now that weve cleared that up lets get on to part b ...1/2 the price per capita for 1/10th the population is right up there in terms of overall costs it's ridiculously expensive and can not be sustained . Thats my point for the 4th time.

 

[GeorgeWBush]

Per capita means per person on average.... so it does not change regardless of how many people there are.... IT IS THE AVERAGE.

Per capita and per person is the exact same thing.

And didn't I say exactly this 2 posts ago ? Why yes yes I did

 

[Capra ibex]

The avg.Changes on the population size ...Say you need to reach 10 billion dollars in 2 diff countrys one country has 5 billion people the other 2.5 billion
The PER CAPITA to reach 10 billion in country 1 is 2 bucks in country 2 it's 4 bucks. Now that weve cleared that up lets get on to part b ...1/2 the price per capita for 1/10th the population is right up there in terms of overall costs it's ridiculously expensive and can not be sustained . Thats my point for the 4th time.

No, you don't understand what you are talking about.... IF the price of healthcare is half the price PER CAPITA (per person) in Canada than it is in the USA PER CAPITA(per person) then that means that the cost is half the price PER PERSON.

All things being equal- Yes, if the USA has 10 times the amount of people as Canada, then the TOTAL cost of healthcare should be 10 times the amount, but the argument is that the USA costs 20 times the amount.... therefore Canadian healthcare is half the amount per capita.

Whether those figures are true IDK, i didn't check but it's irrelevant .... because half the price per capita for 1/10th, 1/5th or 1/100th the size is always still going to be HALF THE PRICE PER CAPITA.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Hmmm - lets have a look at what health care costs per-capita (per person) - in the UK:

*NHS net expenditure (resource plus capital, minus depreciation) has increased from £78.881 billion in 2006/07 to £120.512 billion in 2016/17. Planned expenditure for 2017/18 is £123.817bn and for 2018/19 is £126.269bn.

*In real terms the budget is expected to increase from £120.512bn in 2016/17 to £123.202bn by 2019/20.

*Health expenditure (medical services, health research, central and other health services) per capita in England has risen from £1,879 in 2011/12 to £2,106 in 2015/16.

*The NHS net deficit for the 2015/16 financial year was £1.851 billion (£599m underspend by commissioners and a £2.45bn deficit for trusts and foundation trusts).6 The provider deficit for the 2016/17 financial year has been confirmed at £791m.

*The most recently published national surveys of investment for mental health found there had been real terms reductions of 1 per cent for working age adults and 3.1 per cent for older people in 2011/12. CCG investment in mental health was £9.148bn in 2015/16 and a planned £9.500bn in 2016/17.

*These figures are for a population of around 70 million people - its difficult to be exact since every year there are hundreds of thousands of new migrants coming to the UK - and the cost of healthcare is escalating accordingly -

https://www.nhsconfed.org/resources/key-statistics-on-the-nhs

 

[GeorgeWBush]

No, you don't understand what you are talking about.... IF the price of healthcare is half the price PER CAPITA (per person) in Canada than it is in the USA PER CAPITA(per person) then that means that the cost is half the price PER PERSON.

All things being equal- Yes, if the USA has 10 times the amount of people as Canada, then the TOTAL cost of healthcare should be 10 times the amount, but the argument is that the USA costs 20 times the amount.... therefore Canadian healthcare is half the amount per capita.

Whether those figures are true IDK, i didn't check but it's irrelevant .... because half the price per capita for 1/10th, 1/5th or 1/100th the size is always still going to be HALF THE PRICE PER CAPITA.

Ok seems we agree on one part I think the disconnect is with the way we're using the phrase per capita which as I said in my 1st post on this topic is irrelevant .So I'm baffled that everyone latchs on iI'm guessing it's because they can't refute my main point which is even at 1/5th the cost of USA healthcare for a country far less populated is STILL VERY EXPENSIVE AND OVER TIME WILL HAVE TO BE SUBSIDIZED MOST LIKELY WITH HIGHER TAXES PAID PER CAPITA than the USA.So what's with the nit picking on a irrelevant detail ? It's petty and cheap.typical for a liberal tho I guess .What's it like screeching (with closed fists pounding the air ) "fuck logic I act on emotion "?Not that it's bad to be a ultra sensitive lad just uncommon, where i'm from males are generally more manly.We don't bicker about irrelevant details.So now our conversation is over and I shant engage in another with ye.Good day to you sir.

 

[CosmicCharlie]

Robbed the world blind of what exactly ?And things are better now in America than They've ever been even better than under Regan and Slick Willy.
Biggest difference between the generations is the boomers believed in hard work and personal responsibility while millennials believe in anger,resentment and blaming everyone but themselves for Their failures
We took classes in college that got us jobs
Millennials took lesbian dance theroy.
We got mortgages and bought houses
You ungratefully mooched of us and sat on your ass's in our house.
I've noticed alot from millennials it's all ok boomer until you need help paying off your credit card

You guys exported all of the decent paying jobs overseas to China!

That’s why half of us are still at home...

There are no decent paying jobs left in America, you need both a College Degree AND Experience now - which is impossible to get when there are 1000 other people all applying for the same single job.

Blame us for being lazy or “taking the wrong subject” when there actually isn’t any decent work left?

Lol...

I got a degree in Architecture then the housing market crashed because of Boomers “Pump and Dump” and Banker’s lending Schemes and over 10 years later there still aren’t any good jobs in Architecture just unskilled Laborers - like most all jobs in the USA today.

 

[h.h.]

The British NHS is till going - and has been saving many lives since around 1947 - serving us limey's over here - and if you consider it to be socialism - then socialism can't be a bad thing - now can it?

Does the government not have a duty of care to the people it serves? - and if so - isn't national health care something that the government should supply to take care of the people's health and welfare?

The government has no duty to the people however the people have the duty to revolt. Healthcare is pacification, payment. We are not rewarded, we demand what’s ours. Our God given rights are in nature. The right to the land, the water, they’ve taken those. Without compensation, it’s up to us to take it back.
We can live civilized or we can go back to our roots. While the second thought is romantic, we’re dependent on the first. Only through progression will it ever be fair.

 

[Capra ibex]

Ok seems we agree on one part I think the disconnect is with the way we're using the phrase per capita which as I said in my 1st post on this topic is irrelevant .So I'm baffled that everyone latchs on iI'm guessing it's because they can't refute my main point which is even at 1/5th the cost of USA healthcare for a country far less populated is STILL VERY EXPENSIVE AND OVER TIME WILL HAVE TO BE SUBSIDIZED MOST LIKELY WITH HIGHER TAXES PAID PER CAPITA than the USA.So what's with the nit picking on a irrelevant detail ? It's petty and cheap.typical for a liberal tho I guess .What's it like screeching (with closed fists pounding the air ) "fuck logic I act on emotion "?Not that it's bad to be a ultra sensitive lad just uncommon, where i'm from males are generally more manly.We don't bicker about irrelevant details.So now our conversation is over and I shant engage in another with ye.Good day to you sir.

In the words of Zeez 'Quit whining'

You are the one who gets bent out of shape over stuff you can't understand.... you have zero self awareness.

Per capita is a common term, it's not a mystical equation.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Per Capita
[pəː ˈkapɪtə]

ADVERB
for each person; in relation to people taken individually.
"the state had fewer banks per capita than elsewhere"

synonyms:
apiece · per person · to each · for each · from each · individually · respectively · severally

ADJECTIVE
relating or applied to each person.
"lower than average per capita spending"

 

[h.h.]

You guys exported all of the decent paying jobs overseas to China!

That’s why half of us are still at home...

There are no decent paying jobs left in America, you need both a College Degree AND Experience now - which is impossible to get when there are 1000 other people all applying for the same single job.

Blame us for being lazy or “taking the wrong subject” when there actually isn’t any decent work left?

Lol...

I got a degree in Architecture then the housing market crashed because of Boomers “Pump and Dump” and Banker’s lending Schemes and over 10 years later there still aren’t any good jobs in Architecture just unskilled Laborers - like most all jobs in the USA today.

He’s just repeating what they said about us.
Nixon normalized trade with China. Reagan destroyed the unions. Bush’s put us trillions in debt. Trump’s adding trillions more to the debt.
Anybody see the pattern?
Fuck the GOP. Fuck McConnell. Fuck trump.

 

[h.h.]

You are a good son - to realize that you have a duty of care to your old Mum - and she is entitled to that at least - for raising you - to be a good son -

I had really good parents. Never put up with my shit, but they got over it.

I consider it a privilege that so far I’ve had the financial means to do it. A lot of millennials won’t. Caregivers will be one of our country’s next big issues. What happens to the caregivers?

 

[GeorgeWBush]

Per Capita
[pəː ˈkapɪtə]

ADVERB
for each person; in relation to people taken individually.
"the state had fewer banks per capita than elsewhere"

synonyms:
apiece · per person · to each · for each · from each · individually · respectively · severally

ADJECTIVE
relating or applied to each person.
"lower than average per capita spending"

Exactly .We used it different ways neither one right or wrong they chose to nit pick that difference to try and passive aggressively insult me hence the reason for my frustration I may be a prick but im not a passive aggressive bitch.I'll insult you but I won't condescend you.IDK but for me at least,is a more honorable way to be.

 

[h.h.]

Cost generally goes down exponentially with volume. We can compare “per capita” but it would only be a guess. It simply costs more to serve sparsely populated regions. Costs in Canada will always be higher if given similar systems.

 

[Capra ibex]

Exactly .We used it different ways neither one right or wrong they chose to nit pick that difference to try and passive aggressively insult me hence the reason for my frustration I may be a prick but im not a passive aggressive bitch.I'll insult you but I won't condescend you.IDK but for me at least,is a more honorable way to be.

Whining....

You make up a rule that insulting people is ok, but condescending them is not ok.... why?? Because you would find it insulting?

 

[Capra ibex]

Exactly .We used it different ways neither one right or wrong they chose to nit pick that difference to try and passive aggressively insult me hence the reason for my frustration I may be a prick but im not a passive aggressive bitch.I'll insult you but I won't condescend you.IDK but for me at least,is a more honorable way to be.

And while i'm in a jerk-ish mood i'll say- No, you were still wrong, you can't accept it so you want to say 'well, we'll just agree to disagree'

Honorable, but still wrong.