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dansbuds

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Well by weeks 3 & 4 and running 12 plants my reservoir (20 gallon)
though realistically it holds 17, will be half empty in about 3 days...
If it gets much lower than that, that's when things can get wonky.
Generally I find it's the PPMs more so than the Ph. seen both tho.
I have extra drums too, the only problem with them is the height.
We'll see how the two tote thing works out, I've been meaning to
build it for some time now, I have all the stuff just never the time !


Peace out,
Sprout. :)


ahhhhh your only running a 20 gallon rez ? that explains alot . i thought you were doing the 55 . so i should be good for a week of camping on the 55 once i get it dialed in & know its reactions over a weeks time .

my 18 gallon totes feeding coco was good for 4 days too . it just sucked having only 4 days out before i had to come back home to top everything off .
 

Ganoderma

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Well by weeks 3 & 4 and running 12 plants my reservoir (20 gallon)
though realistically it holds 17, will be half empty in about 3 days...
If it gets much lower than that, that's when things can get wonky.
Generally I find it's the PPMs more so than the Ph. seen both tho.
I have extra drums too, the only problem with them is the height.
We'll see how the two tote thing works out, I've been meaning to
build it for some time now, I have all the stuff just never the time !


Peace out,
Sprout. :)

The plants tend to drink more water then nutrients, so as the water level falls the ppms go up.

ahhhhh your only running a 20 gallon rez ? that explains alot . i thought you were doing the 55 . so i should be good for a week of camping on the 55 once i get it dialed in & know its reactions over a weeks time .

my 18 gallon totes feeding coco was good for 4 days too . it just sucked having only 4 days out before i had to come back home to top everything off .

A float valve set up in your rez is really nice and saves you the work of having to check the water levels and topping off. I have several set up and in use.
 

dansbuds

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The plants tend to drink more water then nutrients, so as the water level falls the ppms go up.



A float valve set up in your rez is really nice and saves you the work of having to check the water levels and topping off. I have several set up and in use.

i have them in my barrels now for top offs when its getting empty . but if i kept the RO on to top off while i'm gone , won't that drastically drop the PPms & raise the PH ????
i could see doing that if i had the automatic dosing system , but i don't . i just refill with RO & then dose the nutes & adjust the PH .
 

Ganoderma

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i have them in my barrels now for top offs when its getting empty . but if i kept the RO on to top off while i'm gone , won't that drastically drop the PPms & raise the PH ????
i could see doing that if i had the automatic dosing system , but i don't . i just refill with RO & then dose the nutes & adjust the PH .

There is more then one way to hook up a float valve to your system. You could hook up your RO from the RO unit, you could set up a res with a diluted nutrient mix that feeds your float valves. The ph doesn't swing to bad, to be an issue with RO being feed via the float valves. If you know the ph will swing on you over the week, you just set it a little higher or lower depending on what direction your ph tends to go.
 

dansbuds

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There is more then one way to hook up a float valve to your system. You could hook up your RO from the RO unit, you could set up a res with a diluted nutrient mix that feeds your float valves. The ph doesn't swing to bad, to be an issue with RO being feed via the float valves. If you know the ph will swing on you over the week, you just set it a little higher or lower depending on what direction your ph tends to go.


yeah thats the way i have it now , RO unit to the 2 rez's . i have a 396gph pump i put in the rez as i'm adding my nutes to keep it stirred up untill i'm sure its all mixed in .

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i just turn on the RO to the rez , refill it & dose the nutes & adjust the PH .

i was more worried about the PPMs dropping drastically . 3rd was saying he uses about 20 gallons in 10 days . if it were filling while i was gone with no nutes added to it , it would drop off quite a bit in a week . i don't want to chance under feeding while in flower ! but your saying my PPMs will actually rise as its emptying right ??? Hmmmm , i wonder how much ??? so adding back RO while i'm gone might be a good thing !
dunno about adding another rez to fill it from while i'm gone , i'm kinda outa room as it is lol

he only way i'm going to really know how the EC & PH reacts as its emptying is when i have it hooked & running , so this is all just theory for me right now . i'm just tying to get it all figured out before hand so i can be ready to do what i need to do .
 

Ganoderma

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yeah thats the way i have it now , RO unit to the 2 rez's . i have a 396gph pump i put in the rez as i'm adding my nutes to keep it stirred up untill i'm sure its all mixed in .

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i just turn on the RO to the rez , refill it & dose the nutes & adjust the PH .

i was more worried about the PPMs dropping drastically . 3rd was saying he uses about 20 gallons in 10 days . if it were filling while i was gone with no nutes added to it , it would drop off quite a bit in a week . i don't want to chance under feeding while in flower !
dunno about adding another rez to fill it from while i'm gone , i'm kinda outa room as it is lol

he only way i'm going to really know how the EC & PH reacts as its emptying is when i have it hooked & running , so this is all just theory for me right now . i'm just tying to get it all figured out before hand so i can be ready to do what i need to do .

It's a little more complex with a flood and drain system then a RDWC bucket system. If your res gets to low with F&D your pump doesn't have enough water to flood your system. The larger the volume of water that you have the more stable it tends to be and you don't have to top of your water every day or every other day.
 

lil~greensprout

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Hey guys... I was referring only to my (3 tray) veg set-up.
That system is a gravity drain and needs too be higher than
reservoir itself. Not sure how it'd work with float valves as
every time it flooded the system, the reservoir would drop down
below the float levels (then I assume it would try too refill itself)
and when the flood was over and it drained back... it'd over flow.
Unless I'm missing something here... I do smoke a lot of weed, lol !

My flower room bucket system is totally different, that has 2 pumps
that both fill it and drain it, it's all controlled by the controller bucket...
which has electronic floats for both the high and low water levels in it.
The reservoir on that one "is" a 55 gallon drum, good for about 2 weeks.
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I think we're all on the same page here, just different paragraphs :chin:

Continue your discussion, ;)
Sprout.
 

dansbuds

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Hey guys... I was referring only to my (3 tray) veg set-up.
That system is a gravity drain and needs too be higher than
reservoir itself. Not sure how it'd work with float valves as
every time it flooded the system, the reservoir would drop down
below the float levels (then I assume it would try too refill itself)
and when the flood was over and it drained back... it'd over flow.
Unless I'm missing something here... I do smoke a lot of weed, lol !

My flower room bucket system is totally different, that has 2 pumps
that both fill it and drain it, it's all controlled by the controller bucket...
which has electronic floats for both the high and low water levels in it.
The reservoir on that one "is" a 55 gallon drum, good for about 2 weeks.

I think we're all on the same page here, just different paragraphs :chin:

Continue your discussion, ;)
Sprout.

yup exact same scenario in my rooms . veg is gravity drained into the rez's & they're both 40 gallon . & i'm using the same flo & gro as you .
the only real difference is i have 3 stages in veg where your using 2 . you go from 5" net pot to your buckets . i'm gonna veg in the fabric pots . mines a perpetual flowering set up , i can't veg in the flower room like you do .they have to be ready to flip when i put them in the tent .


stoner that i am :biggrin: ohhhh so your 20 gallon rez is for the veg trays not the flo & gro .... gotcha :tiphat:
yeah i was asking about the rez in flower earlier ...lol
 

dansbuds

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my veg trays especially the preveg will only be running probably 2 weeks of the month , i can plan my trips around that . the bigger tray will be running all the time , but thats like 3 feet away from my RO rez . i can rig something up quick to keep that full . that rez , i have room that i could put a 55 gallon barrel next to it with nutes already mixed if i need to .
 

dansbuds

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sorry dude , i feel like i'm high jacking here :shucks: & i probably am :bat:

i'll start my own thread on this once i have plants to put in it .
 

Ganoderma

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I think we're all on the same page here, just different paragraphs :chin:

Continue your discussion, ;)
Sprout.


Sprout, to have a working float valve on your rez you'd have to have some thing set up that tops off your rez when its between cycles, or during the night cycle. You'd need something that would have another pump in it and for the rez to be lower then the float valve, when the pump is off the line will drain due and wont flow into you system's rez while the system is cycling.
 

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sorry dude , i feel like i'm high jacking here :shucks: & i probably am :bat:

It's all good man... I'm sure a lot of members reading this appreciate the
info that's been flow'n, There's more to growing than pretty pictures !

Smoked me some Girl scout cookies for the first time today... :smoker:
Clearly I need too get out more, that shit's been around for a while !

Ripper time,
Sprout. :joint:
 

dansbuds

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I haven't smoked any yet ...... an S1 from a bag of cookies , but not the real deal :shucks:
 

lil~greensprout

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Ganoderma, I was referring to the Minnesota weed scene in general... :bump:
I get outside plenty, rain, sleet, snow... that shit means nothing too me brotha !

Dan, twas mighty tasty indeed... :yummy:

Well fuck'n aye, now you guys have me rethinking my entire approach towards
this whole double reservoir system. better check my used parts department ! :thinking:
 

lil~greensprout

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Start of week 8 and the GG#4s are plumping up nicely now... with 3 Can 33 carbon filters working overtime,
the smell is still contained within the room, but when I open the door on the other hand... :nono: Not so much !
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60 degrees tomorrow so... Brrrrap'n time !
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Sprout.
 

dansbuds

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looking great as usual Sprout !!! :respect:



can i ask a question about your veg rez temps ? do you maintain a temp in that rez like you do in flower ? what temps ?

i can't get my veg rez temps below 78 degrees everything i've read says thats no good . i may have to scrap this whole idea if thats the case ! i'm not buying 2 chillers for veg or putting frozen water bottles in them every few hours ..... this defeats my whole purpose of setting this up .
lets here your thoughts ...... thanx Brutha :tiphat:
 

lil~greensprout

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can i ask a question about your veg rez temps ?
do you maintain a temp in that rez like you do in
flower ?
what temps ? ...... thanx Brutha :tiphat:

Both my reservoirs are usually right at 70 degrees... Most basement
floors are a constant 55 degrees, I'm using that to my advantage as far
as cooling goes. My advise would be too insulate the outside of the your
barrels, similar to how they wrap water heaters for the opposite effect.

Peace... :2cents:
 

dansbuds

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You've gotta be puffin on this one by now ! i'm about to chop & i know you were ahead of me ......
 
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