TEXAS CHURCH SHOOTING

[Emperortaima]

I've said this many times but these "mass shootings" have to be inside jobs think about how bad this tyrannical government has been trying to disarm the American people if anything my American brothers and sisters we need to be ready for war sooner or later shits going to hit the fan and we will all be in the same boat we have control of our future no book or individual can tell us what will come and how it will happen they will probably blame "isis" like they always do to me that means they're trying to turn us away from the picture so we blindly direct our hate elsewhere.... we need to turn our attention to the right criminals like the fbi or some other gov agencies they have always been behind these false flag terrorist attacks just wait this story won't add up like the last massacres I'm keeping my eyes on this pattern because I am not fooled!

 

[Thcvhunter]

Another Sunday Blood Offering

Las Vegas was also on Sunday

This will be spun as an ANTI-FA or Communist uprising.

Its not.

Its the US Government

Those who truely resist the System do so by teaching others to farm and homestead.
This attack was violent - it shows the nature if the architect of all this --- the government

Its getting old-hat pretty quick, the government's use of patsies to orchestrate reactionary change.

I mean, is it common knowledge yet that Obama and the USA created ISIS as they were emding their campaign of Al Queda?
We Are in the Matrix -- most all of our reality is fabricated

If ya dont believe me...do you have a security clearence?

 

[Rubber Chicken]

Japan population- 127 million, Gun deaths- close to zero

USA population- 323 million, Gun Deaths- 30,000+

There has to be some correlation.... even if making guns illegal (or very hard to obtain) isn't going to happen, the gun loving culture (obsession/infatuation) is just childish to me.

People carrying on about rights is just as childish.
It reminds me of spoiled children stamping their feet, 'i want it, i want it', 'you're not the boss of me'.... childish bullsh*t.

Of course, making guns hard to obtain wont solve the problem (quickly at least) but i think it will help people become more educated and cautious of them.

At the current time they seem all to commonly treated as toys, and the right to own them misinterpreted.

I think a lot of Americans must feel like cucks without their guns or something.... i just don't get it?

Being BRAVE and responsible is about trying to change the gun culture, not stocking your cabinet with ammunition.

 

[Rubber Chicken]

Devin Patrick Kelley identified as shooter. High school graduate, Air Force Veteran and used an AR type weapon.

Who thinks a psych evaluation should be a requirement for firearms purchases? Or at least for semi autos? I fully support the 2nd Amendment, but something needs to be done. Taking away guns from law abiding citizens is not and will never be the answer to gun violence.

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Not by itself... but being able to acquire them easily IS part of the problem.

The attitude towards rights IS part of the problem.

Having RIGHTS comes with RESPONSIBILITY, some people don't understand that.

 

[Hermanthegerman]

A Drama for the community, I was saw on google earth how small the Village is. Everybody there must have known the victims or is related to them.

 

[Hermanthegerman]

Another thought. Americans, you earned it! So simple it is. Every country has the society that it created and that´s the price. It bores me to see, everytime the same feign rituals after such shocking attacks and nothing is changing. If your land is gods country, than I asked myself what kind of god it is.

 

[geneva_sativa]

Another thought. Americans, you earned it! So simple it is. Every country has the society that it created and that´s the price. It bores me to see, everytime the same feign rituals after such shocking attacks and nothing is changing. If your land is gods country, than I asked myself what kind of god it is.

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Herman, wasn't one of first things Hitler did was, to take guns away from the population ?

Guess, folks here aren't ready for what Germany and its neighbors "earned" . . . as you so thoughtfully, put it.

 

[Gizmo]

 

[MJPassion]

Yes, Gizmo,

This is the image that the powers that be are attempting to portray.
Those of us who have control over our own minds see right through that bullshit!

This isn't an American issue either Herman.
Remember the Reichstag?
America imported all those German Docs for a reason & it wasn't to lock them up!

 

[Hermanthegerman]

Hello geneva sativa and Mj Passion, I am 53 years old and since more than 40 years, I am interested of the Nazi-Theme, but that Hitler collected the weapons of the Germans, I never heard about?

On the other Hand my friends, Hitler and german bashing, is a little bit out of Topic. What has the german history to do, a village in Texas? A Little bit helpless try amigos.

Sorry to say, but the USA are a joke today, a bitter joke.

 

[geneva_sativa]

Hello geneva sativa and Mj Passion, I am 53 years old and since more than 40 years, I am interested of the Nazi-Theme, but that Hitler collected the weapons of the Germans, I never heard about?

On the other Hand my friends, Hitler and german bashing, is a little bit out of Topic. What has the german history to do, a village in Texas? A Little bit helpless try amigos.

Sorry to say, but the USA are a joke today, a bitter joke.

History has everything to do with this.

" It is only regrettable that so few are able to see history clearly. "

Again, nice thoughtful response

 

[Rubber Chicken]

If you scale up the guns laws and the 'feeling safer with everybody having guns' attitude, i wonder this-

Would you feel safer if every country in the world had nuclear weapons?

The only realistic long term solution is that ALL countries find common ground and phase out nuclear weapons.

If there is a need for a small amount of nuclear weapons they should not owned by any country, just by some organization like NATO.
It would be nice to live long enough to see that happen.

So, there is my view on the gun quandary.

 

[igrowone]

so i read this morning the shooter had a criminal record from his air force stint
slapped his wife and kid around, did some time
and when he filled out the form at the gun shop, he listed no criminal history
simple lack of enforcement? not the first time this has come up if so

 

[MJPassion]

If you scale up the guns laws and the 'feeling safer with everybody having guns' attitude, i wonder this-

Would you feel safer if every country in the world had nuclear weapons?

The only realistic long term solution is that ALL countries find common ground and phase out nuclear weapons.

If there is a need for a small amount of nuclear weapons they should not owned by any country, just by some organization like NATO.
It would be nice to live long enough to see that happen.

So, there is my view on the gun quandary.

Theres an awesome idea...

Lets put the biggest scum of the earth in charge of our demise...

Oh yeah... They already are!!!

 

[CaptainDankness]

Gun control will never work weed is illegal under federal law but we have thousands of shops openly selling. Heroin has been illegal since 1924 in 2017 it's an epidemic the number 1 killer of people under 30 years old is opiate overdose.

Why it always turns into a gun rights issue when ever a massacre occurs is absurd, he could have plowed a Mack truck through the church. 80 or so died in France by a truck let alone the almost daily attacks in the Middle East our media doesn't cover.

 

[MJPassion]

Hello geneva sativa and Mj Passion, I am 53 years old and since more than 40 years, I am interested of the Nazi-Theme, but that Hitler collected the weapons of the Germans, I never heard about?

On the other Hand my friends, Hitler and german bashing, is a little bit out of Topic. What has the german history to do, a village in Texas? A Little bit helpless try amigos.

Sorry to say, but the USA are a joke today, a bitter joke.

Recorded historical facts have nothing to do with German bashing.
However, your blanket statement of "USA is a joke" could fall into the category of "America bashing".

Just saying!

 

[brown_thumb]

RE religion: I doubt there are any radicalized atheists or agnostics. One never sees mass murders done by people screaming "ATHEISM!!" or "AGNOSTICISM!!". So let's please put the lack of being Christian far to the side. This type of thing is a mental illness caused by our societies, whether 'influenced' by religious creeds or not.

 

[igrowone]

RE religion: I doubt there are any radicalized atheists or agnostics. One never sees mass murders done by people screaming "ATHEISM!!" or "AGNOSTICISM!!". So let's please put the lack of being Christian far to the side. This type of thing is a mental illness caused by our societies, whether 'influenced' by religious creeds or not.

strangely enough, from what i was reading this is exactly how the guy was
he was a radical atheist, very aggressive about it
i agree this is not usual though

 

[St. Phatty]

I still think it's society driving people mad and that that's our biggest problem.

America has a lot of angry people.


The so-called civil court system is very far from a level playing field. Very little gets resolved there. If anything, it just makes people angrier.

Same for the "Criminal" court system.


It's a Harvey Weinstein society - if you're a member of the right demographic group, you can get away with raping 35 women.

If you're a member of the wrong demographic group, your life is destroyed by an arrest for a small amount of Cannabis.


It's basically a Caste system, like India used to have and maybe still does have.

 

[brown_thumb]

If you scale up the guns laws and the 'feeling safer with everybody having guns' attitude, i wonder this-

Would you feel safer if every country in the world had nuclear weapons?

The only realistic long term solution is that ALL countries find common ground and phase out nuclear weapons.

If there is a need for a small amount of nuclear weapons they should not owned by any country, just by some organization like NATO.
It would be nice to live long enough to see that happen.

So, there is my view on the gun quandary.

Interesting analogy... and how many countries are willing to do away with their nuclear arsenals? It's simply not going to happen. It seems some here believe in an all-powerful 'New World Order' and placing 'absolute ultimate power' in the hands of a very few? No... I don't think so!!

1. Remove firearms from the hands of good people? It was a local bystander with a rifle who stopped that crazy SOB. Had he been denied ownership of his rifle, that lunatic could have kept going to place after place murdering at will until taken down by police. That bystander... with a rifle... may have saved dozens of lives. Had a few church parishioners been armed, there's a very good chance one or more of them could have stopped that bastard much sooner.

2. Had the killer not had access to firearms then he would have used bombs or some other form of weapon.

3. I find it very disturbing that many folks can't understand these points.