Dready_jake
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Ya that mount panel is something extra you buy. Could never bring myself to pay for stuff like that lol we can figure out a way that doesnt cost as much lol
Been following and lurking for some time. I know the buckets work.
What I need to know from you now is
1) How much have you spent on sugar so far
2) How many yeast supplement packs have you had to use and what would those cost each time if you were actually having to buy them, instead of getting them free for the purpose of this test?
It costs me $27 to get a 20lb co2 tank filled. That lasts 2 months and I can get precise control. So if it costs more than $27 every 2 months for the yeast packs and sugar then the buckets are a waste in my book.
Thanks I understand the initial costs of bottles are more. And for a small grow the bucket may be easier.
I just wanted to get a true idea of the cost of the buckets.
Right now I am using just a timer controlled regulator to control CO2 until I can afford a good PPM level sensor/controller. But your cost is roughly $45/ month ($15 sugar and $30 yeast and additives) = $90 / 2months for the buckets. That equates to $30/month that could go to a controller. Your $300 controller is paid off in 10 months. the $500 one only a couple months longer. Even in a small tent Bottles would pay for themselves.
Not trying to bash the buckets I know they work but I wanted to make sure my math was right as I had looked into doing DIY buckets and the sugar was cost prohibitive over long time. Also didn't care for the mess and smell dumping out the buckets once all the sugar is converted to alcohol.
IMHO if you going to do CO2 from yeast then you should become a Home brewer. Brew your beer in the tent for CO2. Then you can get drunk and stoned...
Thanks again
For an accurate accounting by your methods we would need to know how much a 20kg sack o sugar costs in your area. Where I am at it costs about $60 for a refill on a 20lb tank at the grow stores so I'm guessing sugar is probably cheaper in your area as well. I would also suggest to include the cost of your initial tank setup in this accounting as it all adds up to the end result. If you already own a tank and the gear for it, one would not think you would use the Bio2 bucket system in its place. Now if you were using a mycelium bag system or enhancer bottle thing, different story.Been following and lurking for some time. I know the buckets work.
What I need to know from you now is
1) How much have you spent on sugar so far
2) How many yeast supplement packs have you had to use and what would those cost each time if you were actually having to buy them, instead of getting them free for the purpose of this test?
It costs me $27 to get a 20lb co2 tank filled. That lasts 2 months and I can get precise control. So if it costs more than $27 every 2 months for the yeast packs and sugar then the buckets are a waste in my book.
Hey coco, it's funny that you happened to mention all the issues we discovered in our testing also. We did not include our own branded and better sealing bucket because we assumed that most retail stores would want to sell the stock buckets they already have and also cause it would increase shipping costs and the price of the system for said retailers.
This is why we chose to start our line with an optional accessory kit. The kit contains a Stir stick, a bucket opener, since it's kinda hard sometimes to get the lid off without making a mess, a rubber mallet to help seal the pail properly, a length of the sealing tape( same stuff you got from the shop) , and the press on temperature gauge( which we also tested to ensure it measured correctly through a standard pail).
I agree with you. Your fix on the lid is UGLY! I really think all you need is a little dab of the caulking, right on the threads of the joiner, as you are about to screw it in. I have not had the small amount of odor it creates and that escapes out when not sealed fully to be a huge issue.(granted, my sense of smell is not the best. Must be from all the smoke...coff coff)
However, I have had customers say that there wives did not mind the Bio2 odor as compared to regular brew methods and that they were not able to use co2 before because of this issue. But now they can!
I also worry somewhat about the heating mat for the bucket system. I agree it will work to keep levels charged but also think you may see elevated levels above what is optimum.(funny thing to say about a natural enhancement system. Would love to see the competition try and say the same).
In our extensive product tests we discovered that it is usually not necessary if the bucket is raised off of a cold floor. The hid lighting used in most gardens will typically raise the room temps enough to increase production of the system. If you are using led lighting this may not be the case and use of a heater is most likely needed. We have toyed with using insulating wraps....nothing definitive as to what works best.
I believe in the future we will release a branded properly sealing bucket to complete the system as we wish to deliver a complete and hassle free product.
Thanks cocosativas for helping to deliver the message of easy, natural co2 production. We appreciate your honesty and for delivering on what you agreed to and more.
And I am following the thread. I just don't think my input is warranted until wanted and
/ or needed.