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Testing the Bio2 CO2 producing bucket
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CoCoSativas
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Ive posted pics of my ppm recurculating air dude... Most of the pics of the moniter posted were when the air was not vented, latest one ppm was like 1330.
Anyway, I was in my shop today. So im going to get a led, and put this test o again.
Look forward to the new thread. Organic coco led grow, with co2... Should be impressive, I hope anyway...
Dready_jake
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I'm seeing impressive size difference coming from feeding every other day last round to feeding three times a day this round. Im sure organic coco will do great but I wouldn't do recirc like me id do DTW. I don't know how well organics keep in a rez. And make sure the led has at least 7 bands. Print out the chlorophyll chart and make sure it activates chlorophyll A from two spectrums and chlorophyll B from two spectrums. Also UV is vital, I wouldn't have the crystals I do without it.
CoCoSativas
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Hey buddy, always good to see you hanging in, and keeping up. I really appreciate the regular correspondence, you really help keep the thread alive.
OK, so upon advice from Dion, I may not be picking up a kind. They look very promising, however he is a primary led user, so I trust his judgement, if he says light is cheap Chinese shit, ill pass on it. The design looks pretty good, but under alot of hype can hide some scary stuff.
So, as the kind im looking at is 1500, thats my price range.
I can get a spydr bml 600, lumigrow 650, California lightworks 880, all in the same range. Spydr for 1500, lumigrow for like 1350 ish, Cali solarstorm for 2 grand, and idk the price of the neosol... Why dont manufacturers post prices? Thats so frustrating I would usually skip a maker for shit like that.
Im looking to buy, not stare at pics. Price is crucial data, and why Im not buying a kind... Why pay 1500 for Chinese shit, when I can pay less for American gear? Anyway, I cant make an informed choice without price. Why do I have to contact them, begging for price... Not off to a good start there.
Not that money is the problem, its about cost effeceffectiveness. I am not cheap at alll, but I try to be cost effective
Dready_jake
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I'm watching that lumigrow but I also have my eye on a larger version of mine from htg. I have seen the results of the spider 1200 and considering they typically run at 60% and they did the math based on 1200 watts which I doubt they're running and beat the hell outta their hps counterparts. So if you've got the cash that 600 probably not a bad choice. But they're vague about their spectrum only specifying "full spectrum" not a bad thing necessarily but at that price I'd like to KNOW that its all there with some solid UVs. J gotta look more into the lumigrow
Dready_jake
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But kind seemed sketchy from what I remember reading about them
Dready_jake
Member
OK so the lumigrow only goes from 400nm to 700nm. Htgs 800 watt 7band around the same price as watts
is running from 390nm to 850nm. So although they're probably great veg and maybe even flower lights UV is below 400nm and I'd prefer a little not more UV in my light. So as far as spectrum goes I'm still with htg supply. The only way to get better than their spectrum as far as I know is to build your own. Which if you have the time and resources could be invaluable information for the ol' operation (one day I will). So I'm still in the boat of htg and Spyder are on top of their shit but wish spyder was a little more transparent at that price. I'm seriously looking into the $800 800watt led from htg supply. I thinkbits running about 600 watts
is running from 390nm to 850nm. So although they're probably great veg and maybe even flower lights UV is below 400nm and I'd prefer a little not more UV in my light. So as far as spectrum goes I'm still with htg supply. The only way to get better than their spectrum as far as I know is to build your own. Which if you have the time and resources could be invaluable information for the ol' operation (one day I will). So I'm still in the boat of htg and Spyder are on top of their shit but wish spyder was a little more transparent at that price. I'm seriously looking into the $800 800watt led from htg supply. I thinkbits running about 600 watts
Dready_jake
Member
The solar storm doesn't look bad with the UV but it doesn't say the rest of the spectrums and that's still expensive like the spyder
Dready_jake
Member
Dude! Check this bad boy out!
https://www.blackdogled.com/products/universal-series/bd700-u.html
Its apparently pretty good containing 1200 watts worth of LEDs but running at 600 watts of actually draw. Video on YouTube showed it pulling 2 pounds. I think Im Still going with the HTG 800 watter when I upgrade as this is all i can Afford and it is drawing around 600 watts too.
When I upgrade my moms will be under fluorescents still, the new clones vegging and getting ready for the flower room will be under the 135 watt(90watt actual draw) led I'm flowering under right now with a little over flow from the mothers fluoros maybe with their own fluoro or two alongside. I should stop talking about and looking at these fucking things, I'm getting excited about something I can't afford yet!
https://www.blackdogled.com/products/universal-series/bd700-u.html
Its apparently pretty good containing 1200 watts worth of LEDs but running at 600 watts of actually draw. Video on YouTube showed it pulling 2 pounds. I think Im Still going with the HTG 800 watter when I upgrade as this is all i can Afford and it is drawing around 600 watts too.
When I upgrade my moms will be under fluorescents still, the new clones vegging and getting ready for the flower room will be under the 135 watt(90watt actual draw) led I'm flowering under right now with a little over flow from the mothers fluoros maybe with their own fluoro or two alongside. I should stop talking about and looking at these fucking things, I'm getting excited about something I can't afford yet!
CoCoSativas
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DJ can you do me a huge favour and ask your led supplier if they will ship to Canada? Id really appreciate it. Id take a serious look at their light for that price
CoCoSativas
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Its so scary looking at led... Some good, some bad.
Ive seen lots of good grows posted with lumigrow. Same with spydr... Idk much about Cali lightworks but have heard rave revies from those who paid for them.
Before Dion I hadnt heard of neosol.
The kind looks impressive theres no doubt, but im not fooled by fancy light graphs and gimmicks.
My store offered me a great price for one but many led users are warning me stay away. I have to take advice of many.
Theres a led for me out there. Honestly its between a spyder or a lumigro. Lumigrow is cheaper, but spydr is spread all over the cannopy better. Sadly spydr dosent have any light graph at all. Lumigrows is pretty narrow spectrum from the looks of the graph, but ive seen good grows with these lights. They are designed for pro greenhouses so id hope they are pretty good.
Yeah for the price the spydr and the lumigrow are my top pics. Leaning on lumigrow because its a little cheaper, and if the 325 watt fixture is ok for my tent, then its half the price of a spydr.
Im looking at the mid size spydr 600 for 1500 bucks. Or the lumigrow 325 for 750, lumigrow 650 for 1350... I have a couple choices.
Lol I could be a real cheap bastard and try the Amazon leds... Ya not going to happen, im going to get a good one and hopefully get 10 years of satisfaction out o it.
Djs htg led is also on the table as his plants are looking sick and hes ised it for 4 years and must like it to keep growing with it. Hes got a little light and is looking at a stellar yield from such a small light.
Im really excited for the next cycle. Some seeds I started failed, something happened, which sucks, down goes two thirds of the pack of Kali fems. Sniff sniff... Thankfully I have clone of the indica pheno, and should be able to reveg the classic Kali. Shes so pretty, a awesome plant. Wish I already had a cut.
My next grow will be my first all from clone... Before used to be all from seed. A neat change.
It will ba really out there with the new light, new method...
Ive seen lots of good grows posted with lumigrow. Same with spydr... Idk much about Cali lightworks but have heard rave revies from those who paid for them.
Before Dion I hadnt heard of neosol.
The kind looks impressive theres no doubt, but im not fooled by fancy light graphs and gimmicks.
My store offered me a great price for one but many led users are warning me stay away. I have to take advice of many.
Theres a led for me out there. Honestly its between a spyder or a lumigro. Lumigrow is cheaper, but spydr is spread all over the cannopy better. Sadly spydr dosent have any light graph at all. Lumigrows is pretty narrow spectrum from the looks of the graph, but ive seen good grows with these lights. They are designed for pro greenhouses so id hope they are pretty good.
Yeah for the price the spydr and the lumigrow are my top pics. Leaning on lumigrow because its a little cheaper, and if the 325 watt fixture is ok for my tent, then its half the price of a spydr.
Im looking at the mid size spydr 600 for 1500 bucks. Or the lumigrow 325 for 750, lumigrow 650 for 1350... I have a couple choices.
Lol I could be a real cheap bastard and try the Amazon leds... Ya not going to happen, im going to get a good one and hopefully get 10 years of satisfaction out o it.
Djs htg led is also on the table as his plants are looking sick and hes ised it for 4 years and must like it to keep growing with it. Hes got a little light and is looking at a stellar yield from such a small light.
Im really excited for the next cycle. Some seeds I started failed, something happened, which sucks, down goes two thirds of the pack of Kali fems. Sniff sniff... Thankfully I have clone of the indica pheno, and should be able to reveg the classic Kali. Shes so pretty, a awesome plant. Wish I already had a cut.
My next grow will be my first all from clone... Before used to be all from seed. A neat change.
It will ba really out there with the new light, new method...
Dready_jake
Member
Ya i might go up there tomorrow and talk to them
CoCoSativas
Active member
Id really appreciate it. Im going to pm you my city, maybe they could estimate shipping and cost all in for me?
Sorry to ask for mor buddy, but if you are around there, it could really help to be able to find out like that.
KingSpider
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Over Dose can i use 1 pack and divide it even to do a smaller batch with a smaller bucket....?
CoCoSativas
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Yes it's simple math. Devideo the amount of sugar and yeast mix.
It's a good little bucket I think I'm going to use it again
now at message #80 on this thread.. Few questions I have ..
How much (weight) sugar (fuel) goes to 1 week patch?
How much (volume) co2 will this produce (in that 1 week period)?
It was stated that the co2 production is optimal for 5'x5'x7' tent .. am I correct to assume tent was filled up to ~max capacity and production is enough for entire lifecycle?
How much (weight) sugar (fuel) goes to 1 week patch?
How much (volume) co2 will this produce (in that 1 week period)?
It was stated that the co2 production is optimal for 5'x5'x7' tent .. am I correct to assume tent was filled up to ~max capacity and production is enough for entire lifecycle?
