Testing the Bio2 CO2 producing bucket

[CoCoSativas]

No. That kids on glue.

I have a job, a wife, a life, and my grows arent designed to fail.

Hey I dont really care if you like my thread or me. Do would be doing us both a favor and "be done with me". I dont care if you like me or my grow. Im sorry something has upset you so much.

Cant handle someone dosent agree with you? Better run and cry...

Maybe you can troll and patrol somewhere else?

 

[CoCoSativas]

Lol fin couldnt afford a shave buddy you think he could afford real equipment? 200 gavita ballast?

Fin probably lives for less than 200 a month. Hes a couch surfing bum.

Oh bummer im so insulted you think im fin. Lol actually im not that sensitive. Furthermore, someone who cant spell connoisseur... Are you sure you arent fin? Thats in your sig genius. Thats got genius written all over it

 

[Dion]

more numbers please

ppm updates

how often u recording data and changing the yeast?

 

[CoCoSativas]

Change yiest weekly.

Ppms tapered off as the yiest finished doing its thing. Changing mix today whin I get home.

Ppms ha e been consistant. Its between 2-3000 ppm when I open it up, even with venting.

Even hough folks are saying its a waste to vent, my ppms are already way high. What am I supposed to do with the excess? Huff it? Im not a plant... Some are going oh no ppms to high. Some say venting is a waste.

My plants arent arguing. They seem perfectly content and happy

 

[CoCoSativas]

if it works you should just make it yourself..brewers yeast allowing higher alcohol content, and some fixings.airlock from brew store..no magic...glad its working for you..atleast I got beer,wine and mash when I did it. wonder if a brewery ever had a hidden grow using the byproduct co2 vented in.....yeehaw...pro tekt is a good product..been using it long time

Yes but will the output match the bio2 for co2 production? My objective is the gas byproduct, not the swish.

Have you checked the homebrew output on a meter? Im currious myself now. Im very sure it wont blow nearly what this bucket is.

Lights on in 15 minutes. Time to recharge the bio2 Tonight.

New Ppm reading will be available tomorrow night.

 

[CoCoSativas]

Theres a few that have come out from under the bridges they lurk under.

I just want to run a decent thread. I am testing a product for a buisness, this is not a big joke or a bottle vs bucket debate. This is not to replace the bottles.

The intention is small gardens and greenhouses, tents, sealed rooms... Or for people who see issues with obtaining, transporting, or affording. Lets face it not every grower has lots of bucks, a car, live in a area with welding supply shops. Im sure there are regions that regulate compressed gas. Theres also the fact the bucket is stealth. It dosent effect the enviroment. I havent found a flaw yet as long as the system directions are followed you will have excellent results.

I am not a company employee, I am an independant grower who likes to try lots of things out for myself, to see if its worth the time and money. I like to post so others can see quality products that I enjoy. I dont get paid to run this test, I test in exchange for co2 in my garden for the duration of the test. I take pictures and discuss the readings from the meter.

Honestly the meter says it all. Thats really all thats needed for the test. Its showing with ventilation the co2 is still in an ideal range. The ppm was 1300 when I opened the tent today. Its still working so im not dumping the bucket until tomorrow. If theres still that much ppm with ventilation its working still.

Havent had time for ac hook up yet. Tomorrow ill attach ducting to the front of it and cool the tent. No ac shades for me. I have a cooltube but for a 125 watt cfl so it can be very close to plants without burning them. I wouldnt use it for anything else.

The plants got the heaviest dose of food today. ec 1.5. (750 ppm) They should start to stretch big time once the gavita/hortilux combo I have is running

 

[Dion]

is there an adjustable nozzel on the co2 outlet so you could control the ppm a bit better?

i suppose most wont have a ppm meter any ways so....

 

[CoCoSativas]

No nozzle to slow release. May not be a good idea, pressure build up... My luck Id open the tent and boom everything destroyed because the lid launched like a rocket. Whoo hoo. I would not me happy.

For smaller tents I think all you do is mix a half batch. Im sure mmp will tell us when he comes by next.

You are right its unlikely someone will have a meter, allthough I think it makes quite the pair. its really helpful to know what the levels are like, it tells you when the mix is toast, and this one does temp and rh. Beautiful. I think if someone is considering the bucket the simple meter we are using in the test is fantastic.

Im not sure why some have been so confused and upset on this thread. Its nice to se some legit questions. Thanks dion and team microbe

 

[Mikell]

Seems like it would be a good idea to log temperatures of the brew solution, perhaps a work around temperature/output ratio could be worked out?

 

[Dion]

i think ppl are sceptical about these products and the legitamacy of your review as the benifits of co2 are seen when a grower has his other variables dialed in(not saying you don't) so ppl wanna see side by sides
also in reality all we have seen so far in this thread is that it hasnt killed your plants and the numbers u give u could be bs (pls dont take that personaly)

but i knew a grower who did lil sealed cabs with the diy suger yeast co2 bucket and it worked for him so im interested in these producs and like that u are giving numbers

i have to say though im only interested in the ppm readings as there is no control group for this to be a legit experiment(nothing agianst u just the nature of science)

so plz keep posting those numbers

 

[CoCoSativas]

Thats up to the manufacturer. I am not a paid r&d guy I just grow. Im sure mmp will take that under consideration.

Now now folks. No one needs to bare fangs and go at it. Lets just focus on this interesting addition to my grow. The bio2.

I saw mmp yesterday. We talked about trying his plant food in a test. Also, side by sides likely to come starting feb next year. You guys can see for yourselves. I will run threads dedicated to testing. I can likely do a side by side with foods sooner, thats something I can do in the same tent.

My next run is for seed, then the one after will likely be another test/personal grow.

Hey mmp shoot me a text man I have to takk to you about something. I had a dope idea last night and wanted to talk to you about it.

Ill probably be in the store later today again. I need more shit and just cant keep away from the joint.

Looks like I will be the official mega mass tester from now on.

 

[CoCoSativas]

i think ppl are sceptical about these products and the legitamacy of your review as the benifits of co2 are seen when a grower has his other variables dialed in(not saying you don't) so ppl wanna see side by sides
also in reality all we have seen so far in this thread is that it hasnt killed your plants and the numbers u give u could be bs (pls dont take that personaly)

but i knew a grower who did lil sealed cabs with the diy suger yeast co2 bucket and it worked for him so im interested in these producs and like that u are giving numbers

i have to say though im only interested in the ppm readings as there is no control group for this to be a legit experiment(nothing agianst u just the nature of science)

so plz keep posting those numbers

I simply take pics of the meter. I cant really bunk out the numbers. Besides, why would i? This is a test as much for me as it is for you. If the bucket was a piece of shit it would already be returned to mmp. It is not. My only interest is showing my results. I have no stake in this. Zero. I like mmp for sure, hes a cool guy, but if he had me testing shit, I wouldnt hide that fact. Id come out and say it outright.

side by sides to come. I have clones cut to do it after I do a seed cycle. You guys will just have to wait. I dont have space for another tent, and this grow is on the go.

What this is testing is the ppms and demonstrating the product lives up to manufacturers claim. Im glad thats the part you are watching.

Lol I wont be killing any plants dude. My post number dosent correlate to my growing experience. You dont have to worry about that, that wont be part of the test. So far they are looking as healthy as any organic ive grown, which I never thought would happen my first hydro grow. I have had zero plant related problems

 

[CoCoSativas]

Big thanks to dion for saying what you had to say without trolling or whining, arguing or being one sided.

I am serious though when I say this is a test for me as much as it is for you guys. I am testing this thing, not advertizing it. MMP would have to choke up more than a free bucket for me to advertise for him. My time is valuable, we only live once.

I am not an employee of mmp, im not affiliated with mega mass plant products. Im a grower who shops in his shop. I just happened to be a friendly guy, dropped a fat stack of bills, and struck up some conversation. I asked about co2 and bam he offered to let me check it out.

Mmp isint here trying to force more junk in our grows. He is selling affordable solutions to expensive and time consuming problems.

I dont care what anyone says. Bottles and burners are not my choice for tents. They can be potentially hazardous to you or your enviroment.
This bucket is a product that stands up to manufacturers claims, which is pretty rare these days. It does what its supposed to, exactly the way it was explained to me.

Also going to throw this out there for anyone else currious if I cook numbers... Its my opinion cheaters never prosper. If mega mass had have ever asked, or put forth the idea to alter the test or numbers (or alter results in anyway) I would have told him to give me my money back, I would have taken my buisness elswhere.

I will not even do buisness with someone who would do things like that. I dont want any part of anything like that. I dont believe in karma in the traditional sense, but I think cheaters, people who always take shortcuts, deserve everything the world throws at them.

I do things the hard way. I learn hard, I try hard, I work hard. I dont do things the half ass pu$$y way. Either be real, do it right, or go troll rollitup with 50 000 posts... Uncle buck style...

Gee I wonder if that circus still keeps that freak around

 

[Granger2]

CoCoSativas,
The product you're testing is interesting, though it seems to me that it could be improved by somehow regulating output-when and how much. Like maybe with a small pump that when turned off seals the container to slow the process way down due to no O2 input. Then when pump is turned back on, yeast reactivates when O2 is reintroduced.

I carry my bottle to and from car in a big suitcase with casters.

I wanted to point something out. You said in a previous post that the system you're testing doesn't affect the environment. If you're venting unused CO2 outside, you are affecting the environment. Bottled CO2 is a waste product captured from petroleum refining. In my sealed room, my plants use the carbon and release O2. Of course your system, if not vented to the outdoors, would be fine. Good luck. -granger

 

[MegaMassPlants]

i think ppl are sceptical about these products and the legitamacy of your review as the benifits of co2 are seen when a grower has his other variables dialed in(not saying you don't) so ppl wanna see side by sides
also in reality all we have seen so far in this thread is that it hasnt killed your plants and the numbers u give u could be bs (pls dont take that personaly)

but i knew a grower who did lil sealed cabs with the diy suger yeast co2 bucket and it worked for him so im interested in these producs and like that u are giving numbers

i have to say though im only interested in the ppm readings as there is no control group for this to be a legit experiment(nothing agianst u just the nature of science)

so plz keep posting those numbers

Everyone's a skeptic....until they have the proof in their hands!
The facts are that I only just met cocosativa when he came into my retail location. I happened to have been looking for someone that was familiar with and willing to strike up conversation in a blog/forum format to assist with exposure of the Bio2 CO2 Enhancement product line and finally in came someone who actually did what they said they were going to do. Start a thread, give me the link cause I'm a newb to this, and show the true merits of this great product. Believe me, he was not the first person asked, just the first to actually post something and give me the details. I have given out a few sample systems to customers I thought could help in this scenario but people seem to have so little time that nothing was being posted. I still see all these people often and they love the product, they just don't want to deal with flack I guess, especially when they are not getting paid.
The yeast/sugar mixes you speak of will work also however, they will not be dialed in for room specks, they will not produce a constant steady flow rate, and it smells bad enough to overpower a weed crops odor and make your wife hate you.(maybe this is a positive for some...lol).
I provided a monitor so that everyone could see the results for themselves. We at Mega Mass Plant Products have had the Bio2 CO2 enhancement product in development and testing for over 2 years. In this time countless tests have been performed before we launched to the public.
I would encourage any who want to verify this products abilities to hit us up and we can send you a kit. It's only 60 cdn. For the complete bucket kit. If you already have a sealable pail I can send you the Bio2 Starter Kit for 45 cdn. If you want to promote the results we may be able to work something out....
Our mission....growing successful gardeners!

 

[CoCoSativas]

CoCoSativas,
The product you're testing is interesting, though it seems to me that it could be improved by somehow regulating output-when and how much. Like maybe with a small pump that when turned off seals the container to slow the process way down due to no O2 input. Then when pump is turned back on, yeast reactivates when O2 is reintroduced.

I carry my bottle to and from car in a big suitcase with casters.

I wanted to point something out. You said in a previous post that the system you're testing doesn't affect the environment. If you're venting unused CO2 outside, you are affecting the environment. Bottled CO2 is a waste product captured from petroleum refining. In my sealed room, my plants use the carbon and release O2. Of course your system, if not vented to the outdoors, would be fine. Good luck. -granger

I meant does not effect grow room environment aside from adding co2. No heat, voc, hydrocarbons, humidity, etc.

The product is designed to release optimum co2 output in a 5x5 tent. It works amazingly well in my 4x4 vented...

Personally I dont see need to complicate the bucket, adding to cost, and things us growers need to learn to operate our gear. No need to add flow control in my personal opinion.

I dont think theres really a way to deactivate the mix. I wouldnt want too. Maybe wouldnt restart...

I think the product is fine as is but we can all tinker and customize anything in our rooms. I am happy to leave it stock as it is preforming well. Better than well, I am personally very impressed.

 

[MegaMassPlants]

CoCoSativas,
The product you're testing is interesting, though it seems to me that it could be improved by somehow regulating output-when and how much. Like maybe with a small pump that when turned off seals the container to slow the process way down due to no O2 input. Then when pump is turned back on, yeast reactivates when O2 is reintroduced.

I carry my bottle to and from car in a big suitcase with casters.

I wanted to point something out. You said in a previous post that the system you're testing doesn't affect the environment. If you're venting unused CO2 outside, you are affecting the environment. Bottled CO2 is a waste product captured from petroleum refining. In my sealed room, my plants use the carbon and release O2. Of course your system, if not vented to the outdoors, would be fine. Good luck. -granger

Thanks for the input Granger2. We have been experimenting with bladder concepts...
The air pump concept may work also however, we then add to the expense, learning curve, and instruction required for operation.
You also expose some of the best reasons for exploring a product in this format...all the out of the box thinkers, new concepts, direct feedback, and possibility to gain new users. I am really enjoying this format, which is new to me.
The best idea to avoid waste with this product would be to utilize a lung room which has been mentioned earlier in this thread. You can then energize 2 grow rooms.

You would be able to carry the Bio2 CO2 replacement pack into your house in your pocket....no suitcase necessary!

We appreciate and respect everyone's posts. Thank you and keep on posting!!!

 

[CoCoSativas]

Everyone's a skeptic....until they have the proof in their hands!
The facts are that I only just met cocosativa when he came into my retail location. I happened to have been looking for someone that was familiar with and willing to strike up conversation in a blog/forum format to assist with exposure of the Bio2 CO2 Enhancement product line and finally in came someone who actually did what they said they were going to do. Start a thread, give me the link cause I'm a newb to this, and show the true merits of this great product. Believe me, he was not the first person asked, just the first to actually post something and give me the details. I have given out a few sample systems to customers I thought could help in this scenario but people seem to have so little time that nothing was being posted. I still see all these people often and they love the product, they just don't want to deal with flack I guess, especially when they are not getting paid.
The yeast/sugar mixes you speak of will work also however, they will not be dialed in for room specks, they will not produce a constant steady flow rate, and it smells bad enough to overpower a weed crops odor and make your wife hate you.(maybe this is a positive for some...lol).
I provided a monitor so that everyone could see the results for themselves. We at Mega Mass Plant Products have had the Bio2 CO2 enhancement product in development and testing for over 2 years. In this time countless tests have been performed before we launched to the public.
I would encourage any who want to verify this products abilities to hit us up and we can send you a kit. It's only 60 cdn. For the complete bucket kit. If you already have a sealable pail I can send you the Bio2 Starter Kit for 45 cdn. If you want to promote the results we may be able to work something out....
Our mission....growing successful gardeners!

Hey buddy thanks for stopping in.

If anyone wants to get ahold of mmp to talk about possibly promoting his product elsewhere, please pm me, as he does not have his pm abilitys yet. Please be serious this is not a free hook up. The m ans not a charity so keep that in mind before you pm me.

Those who have trolled the thread need not bother tho, dont expect a reply from me. You know who you are...

I wouldnt take my chances with sugar and yiest. Who wants to smell prison brew in their joint. Not me. Plus I like sleeping in the same bed as my wife, so id rather not piss her off with a stink either.

Thank you to those who are here with us out of genuine interest. Please continue to post. Ask questions, your own observations, whatever you feel like.

 

[CoCoSativas]

CoCoSativas,
The product you're testing is interesting, though it seems to me that it could be improved by somehow regulating output-when and how much. Like maybe with a small pump that when turned off seals the container to slow the process way down due to no O2 input. Then when pump is turned back on, yeast reactivates when O2 is reintroduced.

I carry my bottle to and from car in a big suitcase with casters.

I wanted to point something out. You said in a previous post that the system you're testing doesn't affect the environment. If you're venting unused CO2 outside, you are affecting the environment. Bottled CO2 is a waste product captured from petroleum refining. In my sealed room, my plants use the carbon and release O2. Of course your system, if not vented to the outdoors, would be fine. Good luck. -granger

The grow isint vented outside at this time.

 

[Team Microbe]

DM me if you want any tips, my friend had the same thing and I can find out what worked for him medication-wise. He said it took him like 5 different ones to find the kind that worked, so you may have to do like a trial and error process to find out which works for you, because what works for him may not work for you...