TERROR IN NEW YORK!

[Gypsy Nirvana]

The aim of islam is to take over and conquer all of the Kafirs (us)....By any means possible, even if it means killing and/or enslaving everyone who is not muslim...

It is a totalitarian political/religious ideology.

These so-called 'lone wolves' are revered as heroes, and there aim is to become martyrs for their cause by taking out as many 'Kafirs' (us) as they can before they die.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

riddle me this

what presidency do recall having violent protests

was America on the brink of collapse when he took over? lol he took over office with the highest stock market indices in history

Nixon during the Vietnam war.

 

[Elmer Bud]

This is the root cause of Islamic terrorism.

House of Saud

Wahhabism

Madrasa

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Saifullo Saipov - Islamic Terrorist.

Would you rent him a truck?

 

[Bud Green]

I wouldn't rent him a truck, and I wouldn't even rent him any virgins...
Douchebags like him wish they could get laid...

 

[vta]

i'm pretty sure the last presidency had a lower occurrence of internal terrorism than either prior or latter at this point

Sooo the prior was Bush...and he had 9/11..Less than a year after he became Pres. But it's actually Clinton's fault, he had the chance to take Laden out...and didn't. So now we go to the 'latter'...Also less than a year into office...so the point is I guess blame 9/11 on Bush and Vegas and New York on Trump and Obama wins? I could go on about how this guy was imported here under Obama blah blah blah...

This attack, San Bernadino, Orlando all have the same theme.

Maybe look at the policies that allow the importation of people from areas known for radical Islamic terrorism.

Take a look at what is going on in England, France, Germany etc...

The facts cannot be argued, massive immigration from the middle east and Africa has resulted in massive terror against the west.

The globalist leaders are destroying their very own countries.

But yeah...Trump !

he has put a divide between the parties

This 'Divide' was started under Obama....in my opinion

riddle me this

what presidency do recall having violent protests

was America on the brink of collapse when he took over? lol he took over office with the highest stock market indices in history

Sorry but all these 'violent' protests are fulled by the millions upon millions of dollars from big leftist global types like Soros. BLM, Antifa groups get funding for organizing...transportation, lodging and cash for warped individuals to go and start shit. Media then proceeds to apply spin. All part of the playbook.

Oh....the Stock Market is ALL Trump ! again...my opinion

 

[Bud Green]

Weird, I was a civilian working in the middle east for 13 months in 2004-05..I was in Kuwait and Iraq...
It was not a nice place... I could see the absolute hatred in many of the eyes that stared at me...

 

[Weird]

hey gypsy I live in ny and my friend lost his son to in 9/11

I know intimately about terror in NY and about Muslims as well and the American political system as a voter

if you think terrorism is cut and dry enough to marginalize a whole of a people I simply have to ask how that relates to an international cannabis forum?

you want to ponder how life can be fucked up and how we might effect it in a positive way, beautiful.

you want to dwell on the shit and build a reason to marginalize people all I can ask is how will that benefit anything but some feeling you have about it?

It is an open discussion but you guys have at it

you want to fall under the spell of lowering the bar of your humanity because the rest of the world is in turmoils that is on you

not me

nam myoho renge kyo


hey if any of you are capable of a discussion without getting emotionally invested lmk

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

For those that wish to get up to speed on what exactly Islam is all about, I recommend this website which you can access from this link - https://www.inthenameofallah.org/ (if the link does not work, go to google and insert inthenameofallah.org and hit the link from there, thats how I found it.)

Most of this guys links have been shut down, or are difficult to get to because they actually tell it like it is about Islam.

''To those who profess the 'Religion of Islam', this site will seem offensive, untruthful, hatemongering, one sided and unfair.

All I would like the reader to do is to have the intellectual inquisitiveness, to persevere, to continue reading and investigating. God has given humanity the ability to think, to evaluate, to imagine, to compare and contrast and then to come to conclusions based upon knowledge. This is what differentiates the faculties of human beings from the other members of the Animal Kingdom.

Almost all human beings are 'indoctrinated' by their parents, their society and their culture to grow up believing what they have been taught. No human being chooses his or her beliefs at birth. We all, Muhammadans, Moussawis (Jews), Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Animists,etc. are the end product of our upbringing. None of us ever chose the ideas, beliefs, doctrines and traditions that we hold since we never had any choice in the matter. None of us are 'guilty' of who and what we end up as, whether Muslims, Jews, Christians or otherwise. We are all 'victims' of years of relentless and unremitting 'programming'.

Belief is not rational. It does not lend itself or tolerate questioning, investigation, modification or contradiction. It is an ALL or NOTHING state of mind. It is totally fixed in Time and Space.

Even upon maturity and with all the colossal amount of information that is available to the individual, from books, internet, TV, radio and all other means of information technology, the individual still finds it almost impossible to question one's core beliefs; even if the individual is not 'religious'. This is because our 'programming' has been so intense that we cannot easily look objectively upon our beliefs from the outside in.

The human mind even, among the most 'cultured' and 'intelligent' individuals, is infinitely complex and is able of having 'multiple and contradictory personalities' within the same body none of which knows that the 'other' exists.

Each individual, to start with, has at least two personalities: for good and for evil. Many humans can look at 'reality' eye ball to eye ball and yet can deny its existence; it refuses to accept it. Knowledge and intelligence are NOT a prerequisite for 'objective' and 'realistic' rational thinking.

If upon double- checking, investigating, comparing and contrasting the information here in with the records and information that are available to most literate human beings, and the reader finds fault, untruth, fabrication, alteration or deception anywhere, then please let him/her take up the

challenge and collect the reward. It is this simple


Within this website you will find the most accurate, and detailed analysis of the Quranic verses available. The author of this website has dedicated a lifetime of study to exposing the doctrines and falsehoods contained in Muhammadan Islam using theQuran itself as evidence.

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PS: The readers are now able to LISTEN to a series of Questions and Answers regarding the subject of 'Islam' by linking to:
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We have produced a book called 'Lifting the Veil: The True Faces of Muhammad & Islam' (Vol 1) which represents the script of the first 100 videos of our you tube series called 'The Idiots Guide To Islam'.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

hey gypsy I live in ny and my friend lost his son to in 9/11

I know intimately about terror in NY and about Muslims as well and the American political system as a voter

if you think terrorism is cut and dry enough to marginalize a whole of a people I simply have to ask how that relates to an international cannabis forum?

you want to ponder how life can be fucked up and how we might effect it in a positive way, beautiful.

you want to dwell on the shit and build a reason to marginalize people all I can ask is how will that benefit anything but some feeling you have about it?

It is an open discussion but you guys have at it

you want to fall under the spell of lowering the bar of your humanity because the rest of the world is in turmoils that is on you

not me

nam myoho renge kyo


hey if any of you are capable of a discussion without getting emotionally invested lmk

Weird....I'm simply giving you the facts here....I'm not lowering any bar of humanity...I'm not marginalizing any people.

This is The Tokers Den, not the grow forums where we can talk about cannabis. In The Tokers Den we can discuss topical and newsworthy stories.

This thread is about Islamic terrorism (specifically this recent attack), not American politics, so please STAY ON TOPIC

 

[Weird]

Weird....I'm simply giving you the facts here....I'm not lowering any bar of humanity...I'm not marginalizing any people.

This is The Tokers Den, not the grow forums where we can talk about cannabis. In The Tokers Den we can discuss topical and newsworthy stories.

This thread is about Islamic terrorism (specifically this recent attack), not American politics, so please STAY ON TOPIC

it is on topic, your talking about an attack that happened on American soil

there is tension abroad is due to trumps policies (travel ban, aggressive deportation, etc) that is new to this administration

before this those attacks where in the middle east not Europe not America, I do believe statistics of terror attack in Europe and America during republican and democratic administration would reflect how their policy affects world opinion

but outside of that and directly on your last point about that subset of extremist Islamic Muslims and indoctrination

as you mentioned we all are imprinted by our rearing and whatever indoctrination we are given, why is it that Islamist extremest can't be reached for conversion? The nazi regime was brutal but we didn't condemn all Germans regardless of indoctrination. Where they less extreme during their desire to take over Europe?

look at the murder rates per capita in major cities around the world and tell me who has the highest murder rate, is it Islamic countries?

I am confident statistically there are more people dying because of cartel terrorism or African civil war terrorist acts that are so brutal it make this relatively benign

not to downplay this act but to think that terrorism wasn't managed well after 9/11 up until trump came into office is something that can be actualized by the numbers

we haven't had many issues fora very long time. trump comes in with very disruptive foreign policy and now terrorism is happening abroad with more frequency

but please enlighten me what to do now that you have show us the face of islam, what now? assume a confrontation? manifest one preemptively. There is a dense population of people here that look like that who aren't extremists so I don't understand how to process the information you are sharing.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

I don't condemn all Muslims Weird...

Most Muslims are just Muslims by name, and don't actually practice their religion much, or really understand it. The same can be said for most Christians. And after all they are just people like you or I.

The original Koran was written in a very obscure, antique and hard to interpret Arabic script. Most muslims might learn to recite it verbatim, but few actually understand what it actually means.

In recent years Islam has spread its wings over the west thru millions of muslims who have moved to the west.

There are more Islamists/Muslims in the US and UK today than there ever have been, and more are coming to live in modern western societies every day. Even if only 5% of these become radicalized and do what the Koran tells them to do, then we all have a VERY serious problem....in fact we all ready do have a VERY serious problem with this, as we can see by the ever increasing islamic terror attacks globally.

Now we have 1200 mosques in the UK and 1700 Churches..

There have been Islamic terrorist attacks in the US before the current POTUS...eg The Boston Marathon Bomber.

The Koran teaches Muslims to be patriarchal, sexist, homophobic (to kill homosexuals), misogynistic, and encourages pedophilia, and slavery. Mohammed the prophet of Islam decapitated at least 800 victims in his life and married a 6 year old girl called Aisha. He consummated the marriage when she was 9 years old ...this is a fact. All Muslims revere and look up to Mohammed, and many try to emulate his life......You just cannot compare him to Jesus or Buddha...or any other 'prophet' I can think of.

Muslims cannot leave the islamic faith for fear of death as an apostate. A woman cannot divorce her husband, but a husband can divorce his wife just by saying 'I divorce you'....Fundamentalist Muslim women are generally treated as chattel by their husbands, and are very restricted in education and where they can go, and who they can be with. They have to dress very conservatively in burkas and veils or they are beaten and ostracized from their societies, some are even killed in 'honor killings', or seriously maimed with acid, and that is accepted within their societies.

People need to know and understand this, to be aware of what this totalitarian death cult is actually about....The MSM (for some odd reason) seems to keep these sort of FACTS away from us.

It leads to what we have seen today in New York, and it will accelerate no matter who is POTUS.

I don't really know what to do about it, nor does any western government by the looks of it.

 

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Who wrote that?

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

if and when they get beyond what we deem as acceptable.

I wrote that.....

So what is unacceptable Water?

Is anything I have said untrue?

 

[Water-]

What I find acceptable has no value here.

 

[troutman]

This may upset some people. But I blame religion for a lot of this.

My God is better than your God mentality has caused so much chaos in the World.

I also avoid churches. Why? Because people get married in those things.

 

[trichrider]

...it must be Trump! right? i mean he isn't muslim so it must be Trump...
next my good man Weird, it will be you and yours.

nah, ring your own que

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Yes...it is absolutely awful. Can you imagine being a parent/loved one of one of the innocent people who was slaughtered today, or any day by a fundamentalist/radicalized islamist?

It is not nice to talk about, or even write about it here. But if we just ignore it, its not going to go away now is it?

What to do about it, to stop this happening ever again.....is that really at all possible?...I think not.

You can draw alot of parallels to where the Holy Roman (Catholic) Church was 500 years ago, before the reformation to how islam is today. The west left all that terror and superstition of the inquisition, the burnings, hangings, torture and persecution of 'heretics' behind 500+ years ago.

Now we are forced to go thru something not dissimilar again with Islam, in this modern day and age.

 

[cooterbrown420]

I am sure the parents or loved ones don't care if the person who killed them was muslim or martian. If people focused on religion when ever a White Nationalist killed someone, like Las Vegas, I would say the same. Gypsy you clearly have an anti- muslim agenda which only serves to divide us more.

 

[Scrappy-doo]

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