TAG - Landing (Resource for True Aero Growing)

[Guest]

Ok here is how it works...got it finally..shit could have used this too.

The One is your base...works wonders by itself, like Ionic

Then there is a Max, which is the LK basically with its "Humatic Isolates are a large group of rare earth elements that when combined with phospholipid, select amino acids & minerals,help key areas of plant growth & development. "

Then there is the Advanced:

Advance incorporates the first targeted use of Krebs Cycle Metabolites in hydroponic plant nutrition. These Krebs Metabolites ( selected amino acids & enzymes etc ) are designed to help induce the plant into what is termed short cycling. Short cycling occurs when the correct types of Krebs Metabolites are provided to the plant along with the necessary co enzymes to help the plant complete the Krebs cycle early. However, before this can occur these specialised elements must be delivered to the exact sites needed. Before we can understand the benefits of short cycling we need to understand a little about Krebs Cycles & what they do. The Krebs Cycle is the basic respiration or energy cycle of all living things & all of the hormones, auxins & signallers etc produced by a plant begin from this cycle.

Which just sound insane with fun! And fuckin' IDEAL for TAG!

The Potash Plus is the boost with:

'Ionically balancing the formula ensures that all of the elements contained within are maximally available to the plant. This is particularly true for those who use Dutch Master hydroponic nutrients which are also ionically balanced thus ensuring maximum compatibility. As part of this unique Ion balancing process, Potash Plus has added synergistic elements that help retain this balance as well as ensuring the plants can extract maximal benefits from the increased phosphorous & potassium levels.

Potash Plus is designed to meet the unique nutritional needs of a plant undergoing profuse flowering. When plants enter the flowering stage their demands for rapidly available phosphorus rise dramatically due to the large amount of floral clusters being produced. If you could see a flowering plant through an infrared camera it would be absolutely glowing due to the tremendous amounts of energy being produced.

This energy which we can see as heat is provided for primarily by phosphorous. Using Potash Plus supplies this extra phosphorous in it’s most available form which increases the size, profusion & density of flowers & helps maintain close internodal spacing which is vital for an increased yield.

So if you’re after a proven Potash based product then you need look no further than Australia’s No1 potash product, Potash Plus. It didn’t get to be No1 by accident! '

So, now I get it. This is where my conversation started with Hydroguy. About the K def and aero needs. He immediate grabbed it an said skip the Ionic. He told me it fixed his tomato plants immediately and they never had a issue even going really high. So...we'll see, I should have gottent the Max for the humic...but He and I both like LK best. He calls it 'medicine for plants'. I agree.

 

[guineapig]

speaking of enzymes, have y'all pod-people seen this product? At least they list all ingredients so you know exactly what you are getting- that gives them some credibility.....but who knows- it could be snake oil.....I read it at the Canna BioGen homepage and plagirized it so sue me i am penniless anyway...

The new biosynthetic routes of CBDA and THCA frame a new panorama for the study of endogenous cannabinoids production in hemp strains. The THCA synthase is a protein of high molecular weight with enzymatic activity that intervenes directly in the biosynthesis of Tetrahydrocannabinolic acid (THCA) and therefore of THC.

CannaBioGen I+D has developed DELTA NUEVE. It is a revolutionary product made up of three substances that converge in a natural way in the living organisms, coming from the pharmaceutical industry and with no phytotoxic effect. The synergy of DELTA-9 act as biostimulant of the natural metabolism processes of the cannabis sativa L, with no alteration, increasing a specific enzymatic and proteinic activity, determinant for the biosynthesis of the precursory cannabinoids and THC.

DELTA NUEVE achieve the biggest specific synergy for the professional hemp cultivation, with immediate visible results that provide an increase of 25% in the levels of THCA and 30% in the exclusive yield of the bloom, in FOUR different PHASES:
General biostimulation of all the metabolic processes in the Cannabis sativa L strains, by means of selective incorporation of the substances for hemp strains.


Promoting and facilitating the terpenophenolic production and precursory cannabinoids (Geranyl Pyrophosphate and cannabigerol acid (CBGA), mainly) of the biosynthesis of the THCA (Tetrahydrocannabinolic acid).


Two substances act as enzyme-cofactor of specific substrates at THCA enzymatic catalysis, increasing the production of these enzymes.


Activation and selective stimulation of the enzymatic protein THCA synthase, indispensable for THC production.

In the search of facilitating plants the appropriate means to develop and to stimulate the directly related metabolic bioprocess, we have incorporated a pure extract of seaweeds Ascophyllum Nodosum.

The dosage and the appropriate treatment provide in a natural way more than 60 macro and micronutrients, carbohydrates, amino acids and growth promoters that increase the yield, stimulate the bloom, the quality and the vigor in the cannabis strains, with no problems of incompatibilities neither of excesses.
The content in cytokinins, auxins and natural gibberellins stimulates the cellular division and the biosynthesis of proteins and enzymes.

The enzymatic antioxidants (Dismutase, Peroxidase and Reductase family mainly) and not enzymatic (Vitamin E, Vitamin A and Vitamin C) contained protect the cellular membrane against oxidation and deterioration, enlarging life of plants and generating the endogenous resins concentration.

Betain, poliamine and oligosaccharide are also involved in cellular metabolism stimulation. They basically favour cells osmotic balance while protecting them, providing a better functionality without appreciable cellular deterioration. At the same time they propitiate the ethylene production that improves quality, floral maturation, aroma and flavour.

Systemic acquired resistance (SAR) through proteins biosynthesis, described as plants ability for "being vaccinated" against illness and stress, is also increased; it generates glandular trichomes and cannabinoids production in cannabis free of deterioration or biological damage of other necessary substances.




Seaweed Extracts 9,5 % w/w
Ascophyllum nodosum
Nitrogen (N) 1.5% w/w
Phosphorus (PO2) 4.0% w/w
Potasium (KO2) 3.0% w/w
Magnesium (MgO) 1.0% w/w



Microelements
Sulfur (S) 210.0 ppm
Boro (B) 27.5 ppm
Barium(Ba) 25.0 ppm
Cobalt (Co) 8.0 ppm
Copper (Cu) 126.0 ppm
Manganese (Mn) 70.0 ppm
Molybdenum (Mo) 1,2 ppm
Zinc (Zn) 115.0 ppm
Calcium (Ca) 3.0%
Iron (Fe) 0,7 %
Cadmium (Cd) Trace

Aminoacids
(grs/100 grs protein):
Alanine 5.3
Arginine 8.0
Aspartic A. 6.9
Cisteine Trace
Glutamic A. 10.0
Glicyne 5.0
Histidine 1.3
Isoleucine 2.8
Leucine 4.6
Lisine 4.9
Methionine 0.7
Phenylalanine 2.3
Proline 2.6
Serine 3.0
Threonine 2.8
Tyrosine 0.9
Tryptophan Trace
Valine 3.7

Enzimatic Bioactivator 0.7%
Vitaminic Complex 1.0%
Citokinin 600/800 ppm
DMSO 10 ppm
Carbohydrates Alginic acid, Mannitol and Laminarin
Growth Stimulator Auxins, Gibberellins and Cytokinins
Antioxidants Enzimatics and not enzimatics (A,E and C Vitamins)
C.E. 5ml/liter at 25ºC 1240 S/cm
pH 6.2
DENSITY 1176 grams/liter

Total compatibility other products with pH 5 and 8




A minimum of THREE applications is needed, preferably FOUR, TWO in pulverization (sprays) to foliate plant leaves and stem, and TWO in the soil or in any means of substrate (included water solution of hydroponics system) for their roots absorption, using a watering can or drips. It is convenient to use it complementarily with the habitual doses of other fertilizers.
Pulverization to foliate the plant:
Two applications: first one consists of 4-6 millilitres per litre of water in the stage before-flowering (one week before the induction to flowering) dewing the whole plant. Next 10 days after flowering induction, the same dose (10-15 days of difference between applications).
Application in soil and hydroponics:


It should be applied at the beginning of the bloom and in the peak of floral stage (30 days after flowering beginning approximately). The dose will be 4-6 millilitres per litre in both cases. Third dose will be 6-8 millilitre/litre 15 days later to the previous one (45 days after the beginning of flowering).

 

[Guest]

Sounds like a good product...this is the key:


"Growth Stimulator Auxins, Gibberellins and Cytokinins"


GIBBERELLIC ACID (GA3)

Probably the best known of the plant hormones. It's produced by the plants tips and is responsible for the plant growth. I use it in two ways:

1) If I want to germinate seeds, I soak the seeds first in a solution of GA3 (200ppm) for 24 hours. Compared to unsoaked seeds, the soaked seeds germinate faster, a better percentage of germinations and they grow like crazy.

2) After the clones have rooted and are established (usually 10 days), I give then a foliar spray of 30ppm GA3. This makes them literally "take off". You can almost see them actually growing.

The problem with GA3, is that most growth is in the form of "stretching" which isn't always diserable, so except for seeds and clones, I don't use GA3 ever again in the plants cycle.

GA3 has some other uses as well. You can intiate male fowers on a female plant but using high doses every day for several days, you can also induce flowers earlier and yield bigger flowers but I haven't tried that yet.

6-BENZYLAMINOPURINE

Another one of my favourites. depending on the concentration used, the effects are thicker and stronger stems, healthier and larger leaves (more surface area to capture light) at 300 ppm. If I find that I would like a plant to have more branches, I give it a foliar spray of 2000ppm. This is called hormonal pruning and the advantage is that you don't need to pinch of the plants growing tip (thus decreasing the gibberrelins), the plant stays healthy and doesn't stop growing to repair the tip.

Another big bonus. If you spray MJ with 300ppm at the end of the 4th week of flowring there is a dramatic increase in bud growth. Combined with the earlier spraying of Brassinlide that I do at the start of flowering, the end result is outstanding in terms of quality and yield.

MEPIQUAT CHLORIDE

This is actually a growth inhibitor. It is sold in Hydro stores in pre-made solutions under various brand names. The idea is that it will stop the plant growth when it's time to start flowering. Not only does this control the final height (useful if you have a low ceiling problem), but also the plant will start to allocate it's growth resources into bud growth sooner. I resisted using this product because I don't have a height problem and secondly, I figured that halting growth will halt the plant owverall. I was wrong. Yes, the growth is halted (actually, some growth still occurs). the effect you see is that bud size that were usually about 5 weeks old are now bud size at 3 weeks. This gives you larger early buds and as you know, you can only build from there. The hit the plants with the Benzylaminopurine and the bud growth takes off. Amazing. This hormone is relatively new to me concentration I use is 10ppm.

 

[Guest]

Dutchgrown - Were you and Gypsy using the Dutch Master Original formulae?

I just read this article, still looking for a feeding schedule from the company (can't find shit for support on this product still), and it appears there is a 65% increase overall from competitors.

Here is the article if you care to comment on this...I'd love to hear your side of this story. http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/3158.html

I thought this was just amazing... hope its true, "In vegetative and bloom cycles, Advanced Nutrients plants outperformed the other plants. They were the tallest and healthiest. Their leaves were green without being too dark or light, and their buds were both longer and thicker than the buds from any other plants. However, their plants had a small amount of tip burning, which Straumietis said was because his formulation is at the upper end of the PPM scale.


Harvest day came 14 weeks after the clones were rooted.

"Our plants outdistanced the second place finisher by 65%," Straumietis said, after explaining how all the buds were cut and cured the same way. "Our six plants with one light produced 2.16 pounds of bud. We did two other comparisons. In one we took a 454-gram sample from each group and made water hash out of it. Our bud produced 12 grams of extracted glands, while Grow-Tek's came in second with 11.3 grams; even though they were the smallest plants overall."

Straumietis says he ran another comparison test that measured percentages of three cannabinoids. Again, Advanced Nutrients came out on top, producing 21.2% THC, and very low percentages of two other cannabinoids (cannabinol and cannabidiol, known as CBN and CBD), that limit marijuana's psychoactive effects.

The second place finisher in the cannabinoid percentage category was GrowTek, which produced 18.7% THC while also producing a whopping 9.09% CBD and 5.84% CBD. While CBD and CBN have some medical applications which THC does not, in practical terms important to those who want potent recreational marijuana, these cannabinoids can also reduce the psychoactive effects of THC."

Reading even further, I fuckin' love sharing information , I found that fertilizer ratios play a major role in hydroponic beyond the basic N-P-K.

Apparently, the balance between Ca and Mg (a ratio of 3:1) is required for optimal plant growth in hydro. This is the minimum. As long as the ratio stays in that range and there are adequate amounts of other nutrients the plants will continue to pick up both Ca and Mg, while it was found that Ferts with substantially different ratios resulted in some deficiencies of nutrients and will lead to plant stress and prone to disease or pests.

K:Ca, K:Mg, Ca:Mg, Fe:Zn appear to be the limiting factor for growth so for TAG these will have to be precise to maintain flawless leaves...this will be the hard part, unless DMOne has solved this as claimed. I can't wait to see my girls at lights on in 3 hours.

But some valuable and interesting information. Explains this I think..




Vader has been running all night, I'm praying I enter into a beautiful room of healthy loverly looking plants and not a waterpark amusement ride.

 

[Guest]

Ok, I've found even more information on this so I'm going to just post it over on the Nutrient thread as its going to get involved. Found some very interesting studies on ratios in hydro and what are optimal ratios to have. Check out the signature link for the Update.

By the way...where the hell is brianV.? I just had to go there.

So I'm drawing up some new RO and I'm going to try it again. Knowledge is power, GI Joe!

But here are the specs on the ONE.

 

[Guest]

I missed about 2 pages in the last few days and just finished reading em.I wanted to comment on this post awhile back....

Now back to Skywalker...

Oddly I'm seeing really red stems on the RhinoxBlue and Cinnamons, not so much on the TW or the Bubble or even the NLxHaze. So I'm thinking the indie dominants want more P?









Which is odd because I've mixed up a new mix that is almost entirely P/K at this point with lower levels of N and just the reg. amount of Cal/Mg..so not sure if it is a lock or what.

The ppms this morning were like 1200ppms and Ph 5.8 so I added some more nutes and RO to 650ppms and added a little N (pee pee giggle) as it seems to fix everything immediately. But we'll see tomorrow.


For some strange reason I think the ph should be closer to 5.6 I don't know why...throw backs from FAGing I suppose. I just feel the 6.0 is locking out the P and K isn't getting absorbed as much as the N might be locked out at high levels and high Ph.

As the water ph keeps dropping, maybe the K is locking out the N and leaving the P and N in the water causing the ph to drop. Anyhow the extra organic N should help and balancing back down to a reasonable level maybe they'll respond. The roots look ok, but still should be moving faster I think...maybe I'm just being impatient, as I'm sobering..yikes.

It would seem to me, however that my nutrient strength might be too low after all. Looking at these plants I'd say they could use more N-P-and K as well as Mg...so maybe I should try bumping up ppms and keeping the ratio fixed...maybe that would amount to a better solution.

I have a feeling they could just go crazy eating everything...I'll have to experiment obviously. Looking at the chart I have on nutrient ranges it would appear that P is at its lowest at 6.0 ph...and the entire mix would be better around 5.4...so I'm going to drop the ph with some N and P for now and see what happens tomorrow.
walker...

By looking at these pictures Id say the cause of this is that your roots are too small to support the nutrient requirements of the leaves.The proportion of roots to leaves is too small and your roots are unable to keep up with the leaves demands resulting in deficiency.It gets compounded by bright light because it places even more demands on the roots.As the plant ages the proportion levels out(leaves to roots)and they begin to grow normally.I deal with this every time when starting a new grow.They really dont need much for nutes at that size so I cant see how it could be lack of nutes.

Anyways,thats my opinion.As for the higher ppm theory(thinking they can handle much higher ppms because of their rapid growth)heres what I think.I think that the lower ppms are necessary because in aeroponics the plants have so much more contact with the solution that they almost always have access to nutes.In other forms of hydro the roots have limited access and so the ppm must be higher to accomodate the times when the plants will not have access to nutes(such as ebb and flow).Now,if your ppm is 900 in an aeroponics system and they were wanting more,the ppm would drop in solution.At an ideal nute strength the ppm remains constant as the water level drops.If you were to add more nutes all that would happen is the ppm would increase as the water is used.I dont see how that would be beneficial to the plants.There is a window though for experimentation.When the level of water drops and the ppm remains the same,you may be able to raise the ppm more and still keep a constant ppm.I think this is a narrow window and has little effect though.

Im sure Im not telling you this stuff for the first time.Im just explaining my thinking.

 

[Guest]

Thanks for your thoughts on it DC, I'm not sure I agree a plant can grow more leaves than roots...I believe it works in the other direction as the roots feed the leaves not the other way around.

The solution is that they take much higher ppms than originally thought and that it is entirely ratio dependant...I can see that now.

If you read my Nutrient thread (below is the link) you'll see a post on what I found concerning ratios in hydro, especially TAG. It isn't nute burn all this time as I suspected....and here again, I'll be the one to dispel this myth but you watch all the assholes that come after me again.

But logic would dictate that being the fastest, most efficient growing method on the planet currently it would be able to handle nutrient levels (in correct ratios) even higher than DWC...where we push 2200 ppms.

Just like racing, it was an intuitive theme as we can actually push (and I've read of Dutch Master growers doing so) up as high as 3200 ppms...I even read an article of a guy that pops his grow at 3600 ppms then drops back down to achieve super massive colas.

I'm already seeing the red evaporate off the stems only 12 hours later.

Again..it is the balance of the system that dictates the potential energy exchange. When bodies in orbit are in a perfect circle they are at their lowest state of rest. Using the least amount of energy to sustain an orbit, as opposed to an ellipse. This creates a perfect efficiency..like Earth's orbit. We are the least energy consumptive of all the planets outside of our circular orbit. That is why life exists on this planet...it is the correct ratio for life to just bust out—otherwise its just a deathstar. lol

Now, with the Ca and N in correct balanced ratio I think I'm about to experience this amazing growth as they look like they are really digging it so far. But its VADER...the lure of the dark-side is always so sexy.

 

[Guest]

Actually this shit is going to be the bomb! I get what they did now. I'm looking at the analysis... The Grow One is freakin' amazing...get this shit:

1. Perfect ratios right out of the bottle, N is 9:1 almost all Nitrate (pure energy, no taxing the plant) perfect ratio for consumption.

2. Calcium to Mg ratio...perfect 3:1

3. ALL the micro-nutrient elements are ALL a combo of Chelated and freely available, so they always have Fe,Mn,Mo,Zn,Cu.

Very nice, that is just the base.

The One Flower is the same mix, just a bit stronger for when you have budset already in place and they need higher levels of P and K 24/7 with Ca/Mg and the N ratios the same.

Then there is the PotashPlus ... is a heavy booster with added chelated minerals to support the increased P and K levels. This product, from a theoretical standpoint, looks totally well thought out and put together.

The only problem is the EDTA which isn't very environmentally friendly and they have basically created a protein bar for plants that is entirely synthetic complexs....I am in love.

This is not even the Max additive for grow either.., just their basic set...I like it allot. Cost point is excellent, these little oil jugs will last...its about 2.5 Tbls per gallon of just One Grow. That it. You are done.

Smells cool too.

 

[GMT]

I've been watching from the side lines. Now I have to ask a question. Are you saying that thc/cbd production is affected by the feeding regeme. I thought this was determined by dna and only the amount of bud with that ratio was up for tweeking.

 

[Guest]

"Our plants outdistanced the second place finisher by 65%," Straumietis said, after explaining how all the buds were cut and cured the same way. "Our six plants with one light produced 2.16 pounds of bud. We did two other comparisons. In one we took a 454-gram sample from each group and made water hash out of it. Our bud produced 12 grams of extracted glands, while Grow-Tek's came in second with 11.3 grams; even though they were the smallest plants overall."

Straumietis says he ran another comparison test that measured percentages of three cannabinoids. Again, Advanced Nutrients came out on top, producing 21.2% THC, and very low percentages of two other cannabinoids (cannabinol and cannabidiol, known as CBN and CBD), that limit marijuana's psychoactive effects.

The second place finisher in the cannabinoid percentage category was GrowTek, which produced 18.7% THC while also producing a whopping 9.09% CBD and 5.84% CBD. While CBD and CBN have some medical applications which THC does not, in practical terms important to those who want potent recreational marijuana, these cannabinoids can also reduce the psychoactive effects of THC.

From my own view through the Ærocanna lens, the CBN and CBD are reactions to environmental stress...probably nutrient based. By providing a perfect nutrient profile without deficency and without the need for the plant to take energy away from itself to break down NH4-N instead of the NO3-N. Without any deficiency grown without stress the THC levels would be increased, just like the fertility of any plant. The resin itself is a protection against moisture loss and to seal the seed all driven by DNA structures that are adaptive for environmental stress or change.

MHO. only.

 

[Guest]

Alright, just mixed up a new batch of ONE (the smell is Scope Minty fresh). In my RO water it came out to 970 ppms with a ph of 3.8. So, I ph'd it up with K to 5.6 and that put it at 1060 ppms — so that is my current 'mark'.

I'll fill and run for the next 3 days. I'm already seeing the red leaving...it is very cool. It is just swapping for green in the stems.

I need to get on my ventilation.

 

[MuffDiverDave]

222simon222 says,

I’m sorry that I’ve offended you JustATry. Perhaps I should explain myself better. Pod Racer continues to post his babble as if aeroponics were some new modern method that he invented. There is nothing special about pushing nutrients through a spray nozzle. This is a guy who thought that you could use a 1000-watt light on an 8x8 ft grow just a few months ago. When he first started he did not know what a diaphragm pump was until I explained it to him. His theories, including the one pertaining to nutrient droplet size vs. absorption are a crock of crap. Now he is trying to make a religion out of it. This guy is tripping in his own mind. The experienced growers just sit back and laugh at him, but my concern is for the other Newbie’s. This is a case of the blind leading the blind, a perfect example that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

I keep an open mind and would kneel down to worship him if it were not for one big thing,,,NO RESULTS. All we see are these lame pictures of a few roots and sickly clones. Where are the yield numbers? Where are the growth rates? Where is the bud, Bud? After all isn’t that what we are here to do in the first place? 90% of the people who would build a system similar to his would experience root problems resulting in sickly plants for reasons that I’m not going to get into on this post. I can tell him in a heartbeat why his plants are failing even at this early stage. That is also probably why he has never grown a single healthy plant in his life.

Pod Racer was laughed out of Overgrow and decided to retreat to a lesser board in order to propagate his bull on a less experienced crowd. Oh yeah, he does have these long running threads, mostly cut and paste textbook info that the little prick got excited about; problem is, they are all HIS posts. I’ll bet that he also lives with his mother and talks to himself.

Just to show my sincerity, here is a picture from MY gallery on Overgrow.

Seven pounds for ya.

Oh, and this is what a healthy plant looks like.

Now the little potty mouth can begin his F^%K S*)T &^^%$%((&^( $# retaliation rant. Guys, note that he’ll talk about everything but his grow results.


OK, I’m finished and out of here. The moderators can now delete my account. I love that “Banned” tag under my name. It is sooo cool, an honor in fact.

 

[Guest]

Simon, .... Why do you care so much? Let it go...

 

[whereisbrianV.]

PR- I have been getting ready for my trip and planning what genitics I will bring back. I will come out of my shell and share soon I promise.

Long live the DOA!

 

[Guest]

Anyone can see that Pod has some serious issues.But hey,we all have our problems.

Anyways....

Thanks for your thoughts on it DC, I'm not sure I agree a plant can grow more leaves than roots...I believe it works in the other direction as the roots feed the leaves not the other way around.

Your right.But with clones,since your cutting leaves off a plant the roots have to catch up to the leaves.By looking at your pictures the roots seem very small compared to the leaf mass.Maybe its just me.Hard to tell from pics.

 

[Guest]

Put up or shut up!

Put up or shut up!

Yes, I'm sure my pictures aren't the most clear...but here is below the surface currently:




The red stems are changing like a mood rings, soon to be a thing of the past, sort of like the annoyance of Simon. We could only hope I could hose him his shit down the drain as easily.




And once again, thanks for your completely useless contribution Simon. Why don't you go out and start your own little community (oh, you tried that already sorry) or your thread (oh, you tried that too, right..sorry again) well...I guess you can sit outside the circle and watch the men talk. Its obvious you aren't strong enough to stand on your own....so, just try to sit there quietly and learn something rather than demonstrating how seriously ignorant and immature you are.

Now, back to something constructive...ok? Ass? :wink: Thanks



Down Cast - I don't know 'anyone' so just so you know, the only issues I have are with inconsiderate attendees to this thread. Until you actually start to document or even establish anything other than an attitude over being proven incorrect there really isn't much point in discussing myself personally. This thread isn't here for me to make friends with idiots, I spend enough time standing behind them in lines every fuckin' day.

This thread is for objective contributions towards learning, not championing your imbalanced self-esteem (issues). I, personally, have nothing to do with either of you nor do I care to take it upon myself to attempt to ...what? Convert you? Change your mind?

I mean seriously, what do you think I'm going to do here? Go, 'oh, this idiot without any prior proof, example, intelligent discourse has told me (a poster of over 2000 images and educational discussions in Aero communities) I don't know shit...Hey, I'll just quit now...hey.. doi....' ????????


Maybe we should do it this way...

What do you want from me Simon and DC? Tell me and I'll mock it for you if it will make you feel better and you can go on with your life feeling better about yourselves...as long as you just just 'go'. I have yet to see anything of value come out of either of you?

How about I respect your opinion after you actually contribute something of value other than just what you think off the top of your head? Try giving me a reason to even consider you know what you are talking about, and no I don't mean post a bunch of someone else's pictures Simon. I mean your own shit...ok?

 

[Guest]

followin along, lurkin.

new to hydro startin w dwc bu got aero parts for after a few grows; i'm an electronic technician and i like fast car over horse-n-buggy.

i''m stoppin by every day

 

[Guest]

Cause I ain't no Hollar Back Girl, no I ain't no Hollar Back Gurl!

Cause I ain't no Hollar Back Girl, no I ain't no Hollar Back Gurl!

Hey viable, hopefully this shit will end shortly and you can actually get to something of use.

So far the ONE is impressing me with its balance. I see no sign of anything but beautiful growth like I did with Ionic in DWC. I think I'm going to really like this new product.

And I'm going to try and remain in good spirits here, despite the constant personal assaults. JAT - I told you it wasn't over yet.

It only comforts me on a balancing level as I know karmic-ally how this pans out, so...I'm excited to see how really amazing my yields are this grow as there is plenty of shit under it to feed off and make into something Kind.

You can't touch the Pod Racer! Go, Pod Racer, Go!




I'm happy with my body of work and my gallery of insight and education and seriously if it is one thing I think I can confidently state without hesitation before you and god is that I think I know a little about root development in aeroponics, not to mention I think I've more than demonstrated my knowledge AND capability to produce results based on MY opinions and experience. IF you can bring IT! Do so, otherwise :wink: talk to the hand!

Peace.

 

[TAG-monk]

Hie Pod Racer,..JAT,..every tagger here.

hey PR(or maybe R2G,..lol. that name was slick,.sry 4 u to have to leave it) i have been following all ur TAG theories since the A.G.U on OG. its funny to see how the more u give explanation, proved fact , a second chance,..(and even a third,..lol), the more those asshole still troll you. especially schroomie,lol u probabbly have helped him more than anyone on OG. and still they hate u cause u said something that they dont want to hear. Hoever peopple on ICmag seems to kick some serious ass,...i got first replie here in matter of minute, and gently writed. Now there is my question. Iam obviously convinced of the powerfulness(is this a real word lol? sry for poor english) of T.A.G. i have just pull down my 7 gallon dirt bag and start prepare me for some fat-ass pod. My question is,.. do T.A.G make a -noticable- difference in term of raw potency(by more resin production,..i imagine) and improved "aromatic" level (as i was always said that hydro make stinkier pot,..i beleive is just a myth but who knows, it may be possible that tag produce more terpenes,..that would be freakin hot!) over say a basic hydro grow(or a F.A.G,..wich is the same) ?

thk in advance dude

 

[Purpleseed]

Hello and welcome TAG-monk!Now,that's a dedicated name!
The resin production in TAG is amazing.Even the very first attempts I made,when I was a total newbie got me the best weed out there by far.I had all kinds of issues and problems,low yeilds,etc. but the final result was always one of top quality.
Here's a pic of lower buds.You can see on the second pic a weird leaf growing on the left,even if I tortured the plants with high heat they gave me extremely potent and resinous buds!








Will have some pics shorlty,table#1 will be chopped soon and table#2 is totally awsome after only 2 weeks,never seen any thing like it,grows so fast!!!