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oh! now THATS is a resinous bud lol,..do u know the strain? hey and thk for the quick replie,.lol is always surprised me,..a board for me is a "post and see ya back next month" lol and concerning "aromatic level" do u have more flavorfull weed with tag?
I have to say,the strain does help a lot: The Hog! said to be 20% THC.
And now...I have an annoucement to make concerning my Hog phenos:
I have THE Hogsbreath pheno !! Hog#5 is the fattest,stinkiest one by far.
Hog#8 was calcium deficient and only made lots of small tight nuggest instead of fat ones.Hog#1 has the fat buds but stays verry short.
#8 and #1 has this minty odor anybody heard about minty Hog phenos ???
#5 as I smell it: Fuel,canned cat/dog food,spices,vomit...I swear if I keep my nose in the buds I'm gonna throw out!
As I read in the Strainguide on OG:One Tall bushy pheno(#5),One tall lanky(#8) and one small bushy(#1).
I have still to figure out about pheno#7 and #10.
I started the seeds somewhere in...February ???!??..had so much problems.
POD I hope you get awsome results with your stuff!!
So what will the NPK ratios come down to in heavy flo ??
What is the MAX additive your talking about ??
A one part that does'nt have the issues I have with FN would be great!
As much as I like it,it's still not perfect and hard to figure out.
Who knows,maybe I was impressed because I changed so many things at once and I could really get even better results with something else!Still,reports speaks for themselfs.I'll take a close look at Lothar's recipe about FN.Maybe he changed nutes since...
Pod,I dont know why you took such offense to what I said about you.I was just being honest.I really am not here to start a thread war and I have nothing against you.You just come off like you think your a God and all knowing.Its really hard for people to bite their tounges,which is why you have so many problems with people saying shit about you.
I have plenty of experience in that when you first put clones into any system,you usually have deficiencies until the roots get established.I was simply offering my thoughts as to why that happens.I will put money on that being your problem right now.After they are established thats anyones guess.I dont know how you disagreeing has proven me wrong.
P-S, i havent grown HOG myself,..i wasnt interested neither. But i have to admit is seems really interesting lol For my upcoming TAG grow i have decided a bit ago to go with the real skunk#1 (a.k.a the pure) from The Flying Dutchmen. It will certainly do really really well in true aero,..and even have a fucking good sativa-ed motivational high. And have a pungent fruity smell and taste, so this why iam so concern about the odor in aero, i want my skunk to be an almost "therapeutic" smell and taste lol Just to tease a lil bit my system will consist of a 4" by 8" pod,..(probably 28" deep) with 50 plant in a 5 by 10 grid , all under 3 1000 watt MH sunmaster cool deluxe. and PR yeah i know u will think its probably over kill but,..with more than 2 foot high of canopy, i personaly think u cant cover a big aera , even with a 1000 watt,... Anyway its a question of avaible space too. And as for the cool deluxe MH, with a few grow under my belt, i can assure that in a situation where lumens are already more than enough, the blue spectrum really help density of the bud,. its seems to improve potency a bit. i just hate the yellow-red spectrum of hps,..its so un-natural, and its seem to make plant strecht lot more.OH and btw, do u think i should made my reservoir under my table? cuz i dont see how the drain will fill a reservoir next to him. and how big my reservoir should be? considering iam a noobie at aero(not a growring though) i should have a stable rez, to be sure not shitting thing up.
No worries M8, its just a crossed wire I'm sure. I'm probably a little defensive as your opening comment, "Anyone can see that Pod has some serious issues." Doesn't really leave me with the feeling you are about to impart anything useful and really didn't. Not to offend. And if you had read my post you'd have recalled that the Cinnamon are mediumless seedlings, so loosing two huge fan leaves after 5 weeks of veg wouldn't be an issue of the clone not having enough roots to support it. Its a seedling, the only leaves that need be cannibalized are the birth pair which they didn't even have to use up completely as medium-less water-babies.
If I thought of myself as a god (which if you've read anything I've ever posted here I think I cover that ad nausea) WTF would it matter as long as you learned how to grow thick ass white lush roots and thick ass fat sweaty colas for your self? Is it really important that you 'take me down a peg'? Are you the one to do it? You think you can take me down? Then throw it down!
I talk shit cause I can talk shit. I've got the proof, for all you fuckin' know I could be the Freakin' AEROGOD! But it really doesn't matter, does it...really? Did I ask you to worship me? Send me your bud? Kiss my ass? Suck my nuts? I don't think so?
So, what the fuck do you guy care? If you don't like me, hit the ignore button, don't come here, turn off the computer.
I mean, I really don't see who appointed you all my attitude adjusters...you're not my mom. Get a fuckin' life seriously.
I haven't asked a fuckin' person in my entire career as a grower and shower on OG or ICMAG for a fuckin' thing. And if you look at MY gallery you'll find a shitload of informative pictures documenting and explaining every fuckin' thing I've ever learned AND who I learned it from.
MY Issues are with individuals that can't even fuckin' read the first fuckin' post of a god-damned thread before launching into some bullshit about what a fuckin' self absorbed dick I am. READ ALLmy fuckin' posts first, THEN come at me with your best shot. Otherwise, yeah...you're just gonna piss this big dick off and he is gonna piss all over your parade...toot sweet. :wink:
However, like those that do appreciate my attempts to educate them (and myself) at the same time so that WE ALL benefit from something here other than me defending myself personally all the fuckin' time.
TAG-Monk - I'm speechless with honor that you'd even consider that title much less declare it. I'm actually (no shit) teary eyed right now that you validate and appreciate my work as that IS MY identity here. I'm just totally flattered...I don't know how to respond other than to just say...wow, thanks I'm honored and happy to help you in any way I can..and will.
People come to ME with a question and I give them MY answer. Doesn't make me an asshole or swimming in my own confusion...Put your pictures up, let's see your solution and experience. Its that simple. Someone has to be the top guy...do you want it to be 222Simon222, 222Simon221, humptydumass? lol
Obviously no one followed the first 20 times trying to wreck my threads...which still try to remain educational and informative..are they not? So, I have some disciples of the Ærocanna...what it to you? Who made you fuckin' Aerogod? You know?...lol Just don't get it. Sorry.
But again...whew... (*shaking it off...again...) deep breath.... ahhhh
PS You got me covered and yes the resin on these buds is so thick and syrupy it is insane. I am so freakin' spoiled as you will get very accustomed to these chewy sticky buds that you literally just want to chew on they are so fuckin' gummy with resin. Its just crazy.
When I get street weed now it is so dry and blah it is like smoking brick weed, I can't stand it. TAG is the only way and it produces the most amazing results...the technology is here today and it IS as close to flawless as you can get with growing. If you can hit (and find or define) the perfect TAE these plants literally appear to grow right infront of your eyes.
Those fat ass Widows grew, like PS stated (I abused the hell out of them as well), while I wasn't even paying attention to them. Next thing I knew in the middle of harvesting my FAG grow of Oasis and Skunk #1 The Widows were already the same size! Those buds...these are only 53 days old! And...like I said....they spent days without water and light and all sorts of shit while I made all the sacrifices with pumps and rigs and shit that didn't work for TAG, so I could help others. Never asked to have my ass kissed or paid or gold star by my name....hell I even changed my name...vanity Simon? As if.
P-S 2 TAG-Monk...hold this spot I'll post some Skunk 1# and my peps still rave to this day that it was their number one choice! You can't go wrong...but use this DM ONE...they get mad Ca lockout...I'll show you in a minute. I have to calm down from that last post.
I just have to say that I'm very glad every single neighbor and person that I encounter daily treat me with respect and a smile as I attempt to engage them in an open and friendly dialogue always. Possibly Down Cast you misinterpret my dry sense of humor as arrogance, rather than snide or smug self aggrandizement? That might be your issue (*not mine) but I assure you I am no self inflated genius. You just have to get the 'high brow' humor I suppose, it isn't seriously meant to be intimidating, it is meant to be jovial and fun as (oh god this is a disparity) these threads were suppose to be for me, but have proven otherwise. Apparently I'm not allowed the luxury of my own identity as long as it isn't a reflection of the person someone desires me to be for them. I can not reflect anything other than who I am; and care not too. :smile:
OK, let's talk resin...picture is worth a thousand words, eh?
Now TAG-Monk - I have only done a few beat up skunks in TAG...this run was a Faux Aero run, very high yield still...and wonderful bud. You can see the def just starting to set up here...notice the Bubblicious in the back. You can see the difference between the two strains and how a more White Dominant Sat like the Bubble handles the lower Ca and K consumption. Bubble does excellent for growing..but Skunk 1# was The standard A perfect example of just what a ideal strain would be. It is text book, on time and the high is excellent as well. The aroma was like over ripe citrus and cat piss. If I didn't touch the plants they didn't emit much odor in FAG or TAG..but you do 'brush them' working the perfume of sour fruit and thick sweet syrupy candy would fill the room. It is like perfect plants. Skunk is the 8.
The Oasis (a NL2 strain) I believe was suckin' all the Ca out of the mix, using BC Nutes.
The Oasis just ate like frat girls at a kegger..huge and fat...lovely as well, mutant tentacles as pistils.
They did well with what I thought was 'nute burn'
Which was actually them starving because the ratios were incorrect and not in the range the Skunk could use where as the Bubble and Oasis have a much broader range of absorption (It would seem ..how is that..is that what you need to hear me say to make it non-offensive?)
Now the Oasis was doing great..and I was learning, as this was my first true FAG tub grow...before I understood aero and well...anything I've uncovered to this point honestly.
But here are my leaves...I'm driven by the fact that I can do this.
But then there began another lock out in TAG...which starts like this...
tips crisp and there are little freckles (white at first) that become like copper ringed spots (Ca lockout)
Then on to this...
When I asked all the AEROGODs on OG for help all I got was...'its nute burn...lower your nutes' 'yah man..that's nute burn for sure dude...lower your Mg and N levels'
Ah...sorry for my arrogance again..but that didn't really help at all. So, again I took it upon myself to educate myself in chemistry then psychics and then synergistic cosmology and developed TAG and Nutrient Profiling for TAG to this point. As I'm sure TAG-Monk here knows having watched me grow and learn from a newbie myself.
So, I've dispelled two huge aero myths to date, though...I'm sure to hear shit about how someone declared this years ago but no one listened to them....which is the point...it doesn't really matter if no one else know about it. I packaged the idea to try to make it as digestible as possible realizing not everyone can grasp the super deep details, so I tried to keep it really surface...but, had to be hung over and over and over and over again...so I had to throw it down and show the entire dissection of the system...where as I'm still called an asshole and arrogant dick.
So...eh....ya....lol
Sorry to have helped so much. I guess I should just have kept that all to myself and just looked at other people's shitty grows and root rot and hold my tongue knowing I could aid them...but why, it only means more shit attacks from Simon and Shroom or 20K....so fuck me for trying to help...lol
But I keep doing for my homies. Cause...The DOA does exist and I have created something with my energy that has a real impact and profound effect on people, so ....I'm ok with the Jesus shit... totally don't get why he'd save anybodies ass....I'd toss you all in at this point...sorry. But that's just my walk. Growth is painful, always and knowledge is always feared and despised by the ignorant. For those that are connected to the Gia it is their own personal hell that drives them in hopes that any contribution will prevent any such 'gifted' or 'arrogant' child this same shit or anyone wasting their time on bullshit myths and hard headed ignorance.
I'm sorry I can support your fantasy, I wish I could...but I just can't. Not my job. This is my job, and I do it well...I don't care if it fucks someone up cause I'm elated with my success...I fuckin' earned it and I'm sharing it for fuckin' free. Yeah...some ass kissing...kill ya? I'm sure we all do much worse for far less. Think about that next time your under your boss's nut sac lickin' hard for your job. Consider the gifts that are given freely as having some value please as you didn't have to lift a finger.
NOW I want to clarify that this TAG community is a joint effort by a lot of very talented and intelligent people, it is not all my own doing...obviously. I just tend to run the Master's series for the New Trainers.
I would sucked the dick of any man that would have handed my ass this information 2 years and about $8000 ago. Just consider the money you've saved and the money you'll earn before you walk up and smear shit in my teeth, I'd just appreciate that. But this will never end until I stop.
sup r2g (if it doesnt bother u,.i will call u r2g,...i mean its ur real name, its just sound better imo) ur skunk was the nirvana version i think? its still surely pretty good,..but man,..after all that i have read about skunk,..ur -surely- have to go with the TFD version,..u will see a realll difference. and i just wondering something,..why the mud people like simon still talking about the fact that u "dont have any pic of great healthy bud" and all those shit,..i mean,...u just convinced me even more lol is they dont have seen those pic? or...or....i dunno lol...i dont freaking know why they shit on tag,..u HAVE proof and scientifical data . however,..i think its time to forgot those idiots and start spreading the good word of the tag bible! lol i think iam gonna have some fun with my new pod. the funny thing is that its not even for commercial production i do all this,.and its not for personal consumption too(well,.maybe a bit lol) its just because ALL the pot in my area is worst then shwag,..its not even funny, i HATE smoking non-flushed chlorophyle-ed m39 , so i sell my weed at really really decent price for friends and neighboor,..i hate when peep i know are proud to buy scrap and think thats is bomb.
I feel the same way monk, I have no idea why? But you are correct, I had the Nirvanna..wow you did pay attention...I don't need to tell you shit.
I'd like the 'real' strain...that would be freakin' sweet. I was just floored because everyone I told I was growing it was like ...as you know ,' ah..that's like second rate weed...the usual shit'. Well, that usual shit in FAG blew everyone's ass into outterspace and they still beg me to run it again.
Secret is I like the Bubble just a tad better, its the same, only more euphoric and denser buds with that bazooka gum smell...I love that shit. And like yourself, I got into TAG because I just dig growing shit the best I can. Its suppose to be fun...not a fuckin' bitch session every month around the 21st.
And I can't stand running out of fuckin' weed...that's the fuckin' worst part. I grow to stop that shit from happening..screws up my entire life for a couple days while I detox...hated. lol
But I want to get back to the def in the skunk for you, because believe it or not...I hate talking about myself and always have.
I have yet to grow the skunk without freckles or tip burn...well..any really, but the Skunk #1 I had took it the worse, so I would just take it on faith that I think this DM ONE will work perfectly for you. They need hardly any nutes to produce...the nirvana line anyhow...I'm not quite sure how far off from the original it is or if it is even related. But Ca. Def shows up right away about the end of the stretch...haven't found a nute yet to stop it. Fingers crossed on the ONE.
This is what the Grow One looks like mixed up...it smell exactly like mint scope. And here is the RhinoxBlue at lights out...looks pretty heathy to me.
well,.. r2g,.. thk for the tips, as the major reason why i have not go for TAG 2 month ago(before my last grow) is because as the moment u where not totally sure as ur are now about what nutriment to use,..and especially how to use it. now i think ur be able to write down the ULTIMATE product line up for tag nutrient and DM is certainly a big part of it. do u have already check up the product from botanicare named "sweet"? if it work in aero,..it would be hot as hell, u could use DM for stability and performance,..and add sweet for an organic smell and taste,..
as for the skunk #1,..i have read lot more that u can imagine about this strain and this effect on history on the last mounth lol i havent growring yet and i thinks its my fav strain lol. its WAYYY too much underated. Simply cauz this lineage have been associated with commercial shwag in the 80's, but in fact, most of this so-called skunk was only deviated variation, lot more indica's. this i why sam skunkman made skunk #1, this shit is 75% sativa bro lol i have read all the review i can on the net, and the real #1 is reallly powerful sativa, just as strong as many curent modern sativa-indica hybrid. this is the perfect strain for me,.. its a motivational,..a bit clear,-up high, but make no-one paranoid, not racey, not trippy. as well as the added little "body numbing effect" of the afghani side. and that,..is just the buzz! when in come to stability, yield,resistance, resin contains, germ rate, early finishing, it cant be beat. and over all that,..u have the MAGNIFICIENT smell and taste that everyone seems to be addict to.
but honestly,.. my TAG master,.. ur nirvana version could be really pleasant, but certainly not near the purity of "the pure" lol. i dont remmebr exactly, but the #1 nirvana is not even only skunk,..i think he have been backcrossed with some afghan , and only the fact that you have differente phenotype is not good,..the real skunk,..an IBL,...stability at her max lol,..and for only 20 fucking euro,.this IS the best deal on the net,... and if i have done correctly my salesman job, hehe, here the link
*** plz excuse me if iam not too clear,..french is ma first language(well, its not evne french,..its "quebecois" lol) so just ask me to repeat if u dont understand****
Ah..no problem...have dealt with Quebec know their french...not well...lol, but dealing with them. Nothing more challenging than designing product packaging for the US abroad AND Quebec....what a PITA they are...lol j/k
But yeah..I'm sure the pure strain would be far superior, but that was sort of the point. In TAG I've yet to have shit weed of any sort. They are all optimized in the TAE and yeah..I believe the Skunk #1 I had was a NL derivative...or for some reason sticks out in my mind. It still rocked damn hard...I'm not shitting...a buddy of mine's father grew with the greats and he grew up with it. He said it was the best Skunk he had ever had and it is still his favorite from me over even the Widow.
It was a really nice smoke...I will return some day.
The NL lines seem to carry that really up happy buzz that allows you to be very productive and now that you mention it, seeing as the Skunk I grew was in a better nutrient regime by the end the THC to CBC dealio was probably higher.
That skunk ran out and like the Oasis everyone was bumded after a month went by and they could remember how awesome all of them were...and they were each very different.
The NL is the White line I believe...like Bubbliscious, Skunk, Widow all Sat dominant have that wonderfully clearly creative buzz that lets me work for hours and hours in a hyper-focused tunnel of 'connections'. That is how I discovered all this shit in the first place...I chased the White Rabbit down a hole and found I got first very small, then very big, then very scared and eventually have to stand trial before the Queen of Hearts before playing a ludicrous game and escaping back to reality.
Each line will teach you something very profound, but sometime the tunnels are very deep and very dark..you need to take light with you and you'll find...they are all connected..so there is always a way out and always a solution close at hand. Sometimes you just have to stop, sit still and look..it will reveal itself to you if you are patient and remain open minded to the truth not mired in ignorance and true arrogance. No?
HOG is like holly shit...oh my gawd its serious Indie mind fuck...fun ride..but you are going down fast so hold on. I can't work on that. I'm exploring the Blue lines now and the Red..but haven't had much experience outside the Golds and White lines. (Gonna take me higher - had to go there). lol
JAT! I keep forgetting to mention this about your pump. I had a similar problem with my breaker getting thrown and I couldn't figure it out. I just remembered this. What I found was that I had left a washer/screen in the line, the type you find in hoses...Well the LK had coated the screen and blocked the entire line causing a huge build up of pressure that was forcing the amps up to move the water. I finally figured that out and found it, after removing it I never had that problem again.
Do you have one in your line? If so, remove it or find if you have a piece of hydroton or something stuck somewhere in the line. That might be the smoking gun.
Hey, if TAG make pot that better,..dammm i hope my harvest will come quickly lol
well, yep ur right , it was not crossed with "afgnahi" like i said,..there surley some norhten light in it. But no the NL is not hte white line, the "clearly creative buzz" from the NL come frome the THAI side, but then again,. its realy not totaly sure, the NL history is realy confusing, but no i can assure u that is not the white line. The white line come fromm some south indian and brazilian sativa i think. i dont know much about the bubblelicious,..except that bman seems to make wonderful hash with it lol the skunk is a inbreed hybrid of " acapulco gold x (mexican sativa x afgnahi)" , so 50% AG, 25% MG, 25% AFGHAN, so 75% sativa,. 25% indica. hope this help lol
Ah that explains it thanks for the clarification. Hey..look I didn't even have to call you a dick or anything for correcting me (leading by example)....wow... I'm still learning my roots on the lines at this point..so much to learn...why spend time arguing over bullshit?
U know I would love the Skunk 1# then... Acapulco Gold is one of my truly favorite strains ..anything Gold! lol
I love the old Hawaiian Gold and Maui Wowie of yesteryear...those were the halcyon days for sure. Token on AG takes me back to 1975 again..lol I'm like 7 or 8 and life is just motorbikes, long hair and positive pop rock with the heart of gold. The 70's were the 'Gold' Era for sure...miss those days, even if I were a runt.
But you are correct, the strain I had was a genetic combo of Afghani, Mexican gold and Colombian gold which is why I'm sure I love the high.
My experience (only) is the following:
White lines(Awareness-intellectual and productive) = Strong cerebral high with very trippy and creative inspiration (like true white light it is the culmination of all colors into one). Most popular line witht the best reputation for performance and productivity.
Gold lines(Love-peace) = Feel good euphoric body rides, lots of pleasant basking in any radiant energy. Gold line absorb pure energy from the environment and channel only warmth and well-being back out without any need for complex or introspective thought. Mayan and Aztec culture, very direct balance with nature...great for communing with nature.
Blue lines(Comfort-water) = Medicinal lines for sedation and rest. introspection and self healing. Not terribly creative but nice physical relief and inward journey. (Still learning this line)Spice line
Red lines(Passion-fire) = (Currently under cultivation) Pure Euphoric Fun and radiant Ra energy. Jack H. pheno-type. Cinnamon is my sample.Spice line
Black(purples) lines(Strong, but difficult to work with and low production) = (orginator of the blues stronger Med based narcotic/spiritual use) Spice line adding depth and spirituality to the high.
And then like the real world... all the hybrid mutts that make an even more synergistic effect beyond the originals as we strive to achieve a healthier more elastic child.
(Again...not talking like I know it all, just stating my own personal opinions and observation. You are welcomed to disagree and post your thoughts and reasons why - no need to attack me personally...just post your own thoughts on the subject...thanks :wink: )
Nice connection between colors and effects POD !
I feel them as you speek!
HA!HA! Un pousseux Québécois TAG-Monk!!Bienvenue mon cher!
Sur-Poussons le Québec!
From the ICmag infirmary:
Ca issues-
Problems with Calcium being locked out by PH troubles
Improper watering, (most common cause), very acidic soils with excessive potassium, excessively dry and or wet soil. Lack of calcium in the soil results in the soil becoming too acid. This leads to Mg or Fe deficiency or very slow stunted growth
Hydro and Soil less Mediums
Calcium gets locked out of Hydro and Soil less Mediums at ph levels of 2.0- 5.3
Calcium is absorbed best in Hydro and Soil less Mediums at ph levels of 5.4-5.8 (Wouldn’t recommend having a ph over 6.5 in hydro and soil less mediums.) Best range for hydro and soil less mediums is 5.0 to 6.0. Anything out of the ranges listed will contribute to a Calcium Deficiency.
According to this,not sure if cranking K up is a good idea.
As my ph is often around 5.4 I think I'll adjust it more often towards 5,6-5,8 it might help some phenos.(#8)