Good! I am so glad, but also surprised. Keep up the good work hun.
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stickyickyicky
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DAY 29
DAY 29
after some mishaps and on the verge of death. 2 of the 3 plants made a total recovery and one is on its way back from deaths door! set me back in time. looks like i am not going to LST or SCROG them or if i get all males do anything ( lack of time now ) i still need to be done by dec 10th and with this set back does it still look like i can make it?
DAY 29
after some mishaps and on the verge of death. 2 of the 3 plants made a total recovery and one is on its way back from deaths door! set me back in time. looks like i am not going to LST or SCROG them or if i get all males do anything ( lack of time now ) i still need to be done by dec 10th and with this set back does it still look like i can make it?
I doubt Dec 10th. Jan 10th maybe. You need 1 month good veg time and 2 months flower. Let the soil dry out with the new ferts. More salt uptake. Investigate a better fert choice according to the parameters i listed in the can. infirmary.stickyickyicky said:after some mishaps and on the verge of death. 2 of the 3 plants made a total recovery and one is on its way back from deaths door! set me back in time. looks like i am not going to LST or SCROG them or if i get all males do anything ( lack of time now ) i still need to be done by dec 10th and with this set back does it still look like i can make it?
They look so good now sticky, we were all pulling for those babies.
stickyickyicky
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hey sprout i dont have a choice i am moving across the country in dec. the 10th gives me 8 days of dry\cure time. what would it hurt if i switched to 12\12 now?
thanks POMH! :smile:
thanks POMH! :smile:
You might want to add 1/4 teaspoon (1.25ml) epsom salts per gallon (3.8L) of water along with your regular fert drops. Do this once and see what happens. Seriously, invest in some better ferts and ph adjust the fert water to 6 after mixing. Switching to 12/12 now to make the dec 10 th deadline wont get you any buds. Your plants are really small and recovering. Bring them on a road trip? :smile:
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stickyickyicky
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DAY 34
DAY 34
plants are taking off! used a diffrent fert at last watering 19-31-17. i am still going to try the epsom salt when i get some. (where?)
here they are!
DAY 34
plants are taking off! used a diffrent fert at last watering 19-31-17. i am still going to try the epsom salt when i get some. (where?)
here they are!
Go to the drugstore. You need to make sure the fert your using has all the micros: iron, manganese, zinc, copper, boron, and molybdenum. Adding epsom salts is cool. Hopefully there is calcium in your city water. You might should add that too. 1/4 teaspoon powdered gypsum per gallon (3.8L) of water along with the epsom and your regular npk fert + micros. Add the epsom and gypsum every second or third time you fert if dolomite is in your soil and everytime if little to none is in there. Adjusting the ph of your fert water after mixing gives the best results. Make sure you let the pots dry out between applications of fert water unless you get the epsom and gypsum combo to please me.stickyickyicky said:
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stickyickyicky
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the new nutes
the new nutes
This one has iron, mag, moly, zinc, baron and copper. its also by schultz its hidden under the name Orchid Food- plant food -water soluble-concentrated-with micro nutrients. its a dry powder not like the other drops i have. says to use 1\4 tbs per gallon.
the new nutes
This one has iron, mag, moly, zinc, baron and copper. its also by schultz its hidden under the name Orchid Food- plant food -water soluble-concentrated-with micro nutrients. its a dry powder not like the other drops i have. says to use 1\4 tbs per gallon.
If you add epsom salts and powdered gypsum at 1/4 teaspoon of each per gallon of water (3.8L), your nutrient solution will be complete except for chlorine. I bet there is chlorine in your city water. Using epsom or gypsum also adds valuable sulfur. Add the epsom salts + powdered gypsum every second or third time you use the orchid food when there is dolomite lime in the soil and every time when not. Lime eventually runs low with repeated waterings. I checked the shultz website and the numbers on the fert you have are 19-30-17 or something like that, right? Too much middle number phosphorus for just vegetative growth. It will really make the plant stretch taller. It also builds up in the soil with repeated applications. It sounds like it contains all the micros which is good.
In a veg fert you want:
>2-1-2 ratio nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium
>contain all the micros: iron, manganese, zinc, copper, boron, molybdenum
>contain calcium and magnesium if no dol. lime is in the soil or you need to boost levels
>contain sulfur if no gypsum added at planting to the soil or other sulfur based ferts are used
>potassium chloride not in it; instead potassium nitrate, pot. sulfate, or monopotassium phosphate instead
Investigate adjusting the ph of your fert water after mixing to about ph 6. Directions for making your own ph up and down are in my signature. The materials used can be found at the auto parts store or grocery store. Ph test strips can be used from the aquarium section of a pet store. 4 to 7 range will work. Getting a good ph meter that tests liquids should be on your shopping list when you get extra money.
Epsom salts you can get at the drugstore. Powdered gypsum you can find at a good garden center. Call around. Hoffman may be a brand and it comes in small bags like 5 pounds or so.
Glad to see the seedlings are improving.
I bet there is chlorine in your city water. Using epsom or gypsum also adds valuable sulfur. Add the epsom salts + powdered gypsum every second or third time you use the orchid food when there is dolomite lime in the soil and every time when not. Lime eventually runs low with repeated waterings. I checked the shultz website and the numbers on the fert you have are 19-30-17 or something like that, right? Too much middle number phosphorus for just vegetative growth. It will really make the plant stretch taller. It also builds up in the soil with repeated applications. It sounds like it contains all the micros which is good.In a veg fert you want:
>2-1-2 ratio nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium
>contain all the micros: iron, manganese, zinc, copper, boron, molybdenum
>contain calcium and magnesium if no dol. lime is in the soil or you need to boost levels
>contain sulfur if no gypsum added at planting to the soil or other sulfur based ferts are used
>potassium chloride not in it; instead potassium nitrate, pot. sulfate, or monopotassium phosphate instead
Investigate adjusting the ph of your fert water after mixing to about ph 6. Directions for making your own ph up and down are in my signature. The materials used can be found at the auto parts store or grocery store. Ph test strips can be used from the aquarium section of a pet store. 4 to 7 range will work. Getting a good ph meter that tests liquids should be on your shopping list when you get extra money.
Epsom salts you can get at the drugstore. Powdered gypsum you can find at a good garden center. Call around. Hoffman may be a brand and it comes in small bags like 5 pounds or so.
Glad to see the seedlings are improving.
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If your looking into better ferts, give the flora nova series a try. Only two bottles to buy. Here is complete directions and why they are cool. http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=38801 
They look good, you are a good papa. :smile:
stickyickyicky
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post up some pics later! these things are taking off big time! and now they are also starting to stink!!!!! looks like monday i am gonna have to start on my scrubber!!! 
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DAY 37
DAY 37
these babys are turning into TODDLERS
like i said the smell is starting to become an issue! going to build my scrubber sometime this week! hopefully monday! here are the shots of them!
after the scrubber is complete i am going to be switching to 12\12
hope i get a lady or two!
DAY 37
these babys are turning into TODDLERS
like i said the smell is starting to become an issue! going to build my scrubber sometime this week! hopefully monday! here are the shots of them! after the scrubber is complete i am going to be switching to 12\12
hope i get a lady or two!
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stickyickyicky said:these babys are turning into TODDLERS
Be careful not to overwater. Let the containers dry some. Follow previous instructions. Watch for tips burning = too much nutrients or calcium deficiency starting. Watch for yellow bottom leaves with the veins still green = magnesium deficiency. Both nutrient deficiencys can be cured with the epsom/gypsum combo.
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Wow Sticky, they are recovering really well! Be sure to thank Sproutco for all his help.
The last time I saw someone struggle with dying seedlings with Miracle Grow soil it was just a disaster. It sure looks like the pH is right off with that mix.
Are you going to make up a better soil mix? It won't be long before you'll be repotting your toddlers now that they are taking off.
The last time I saw someone struggle with dying seedlings with Miracle Grow soil it was just a disaster. It sure looks like the pH is right off with that mix.
Are you going to make up a better soil mix? It won't be long before you'll be repotting your toddlers now that they are taking off.
They look fantastic....very good call sproutco. I have never seen this with MG either Red.
They sure do look healthy and happy now.
They sure do look healthy and happy now.
