So you wanna be a commercial grower?

[Guest]

When buying a gen the most important thing to look for is a REPUTABLE company that produces QUALITY machines and forget about price because a 30kw john deer/mitsubishi/perkins RENTAL GRADE unit will cost 20k no options,with a 200 gallon base tank witch is a must for 20 lights will add 3k and if you do not know how to maintain your unit you will need a trailer which is part of the generator or built under it and that will add another 2k as they have a double wall base tank built in.You see if you want to maintain your generator properly you have to bring it in to be serviced every 2 crops if you are not familiar with such things.As far as exspenses go to run the unit it will cost 10k a crop or 5k a month in diesel and it could cost much more depending on area of course,running 20kw or 20 lights you will need to re-fuel your 200 gallon base tank every 6-8 days depending on how many kw's your a/c,fans ect are using.Now to transport 200 gallons a week you need a truck with a 200 gallon double wall tank although some farms already have any where from a 500 gallon to 1000 on the property so you could always do a smaller tank in your truck but this would mean more trips which means more work and i always run "LOW MAINTENENCE" op's as most do.Now as far as sound goes i always use rural properties anyways,back the gen into the garage and pull it our every 2 crops to get it serviced as im not familair with that but if one is worried about sound then i suggest industrial soundproofing,it's expensive but worth it.I believe that covers most of the stuff that involved other then the obvious,good day....

 

[swampy_nz]

man,i read your whole post without taking a breath.need some paragraphs in there.
Good info tho,more to generators than you think.

 

[SuperToker]

When buying a gen the most important thing to look for is a REPUTABLE company that produces QUALITY machines and forget about price because a 30kw john deer/mitsubishi/perkins RENTAL GRADE unit will cost 20k no options,with a 200 gallon base tank witch is a must for 20 lights will add 3k and if you do not know how to maintain your unit you will need a trailer which is part of the generator or built under it and that will add another 2k as they have a double wall base tank built in.You see if you want to maintain your generator properly you have to bring it in to be serviced every 2 crops if you are not familiar with such things.As far as exspenses go to run the unit it will cost 10k a crop or 5k a month in diesel and it could cost much more depending on area of course,running 20kw or 20 lights you will need to re-fuel your 200 gallon base tank every 6-8 days depending on how many kw's your a/c,fans ect are using.Now to transport 200 gallons a week you need a truck with a 200 gallon double wall tank although some farms already have any where from a 500 gallon to 1000 on the property so you could always do a smaller tank in your truck but this would mean more trips which means more work and i always run "LOW MAINTENENCE" op's as most do.Now as far as sound goes i always use rural properties anyways,back the gen into the garage and pull it our every 2 crops to get it serviced as im not familair with that but if one is worried about sound then i suggest industrial soundproofing,it's expensive but worth it.I believe that covers most of the stuff that involved other then the obvious,good day....

ROFL.



PS: for your grow at your mom's house, you might just want to try a 4 foot shop light since your a broke 15 year old.

 

[Guest]

Stupidity Is Bliss

Stupidity Is Bliss

ROFL.



PS: for your grow at your mom's house, you might just want to try a 4 foot shop light since your a broke 15 year old.

I'm a semi-retired invester who spends his time with his family and friends,i came to this site with the intention to share some of my 28 years experience in the business but since a became a member i have noticed a great number of people acting like juvenile delinquents and diss respecting people they don't know which i find disturbing to say the least so to all that are humble and intelligent i wish you the best in your growing endeavours especially you supertoker as your going to need it.

 

[dj digigrow]

florida commercial growing is getting harder and harder...
with a new 25 plant federal #, we gotta start growing trees... but this means more veg. less crops per year less $$..
can someone come up with an idea of the most essential perpetual setup for under 25 plants....
this sux...

 

[dj digigrow]

I'm thinking 3 or 4 moms and 20 ebb and grow buckets.. just have to keep clones and veg plants elsewhere... a real p.I.t.a

 

[Brad]

All this talk about 20 lights and diesel generators and not one person has posted any pix,lets see some BUDS from the "pros"

 

[TGT]

Best thing to do and keep numbers down and profit high is to have a seperate place to veg and a seperate place to bud. The veg location can supply your bud location with an unlimited number of plants for very low electrical cost. Actually you can supply multiple bud locations with one veg location. This location can even be an apartment. This way you can veg the whole time the plants are budding, then move the vegged plants to the bud locations when the crop is finsihed and start vegging a new batch for the next round - hope that makes sense. You can have a crop every 2 months with an 8 week strain, or 6 crops a year. Another benefit is all the bud locations only need 12 hours of light at all times keeping electrical consumption down.

I find it takes a week or two to root clones and then you should have a month and a half at the least to veg while the others are budding. The only problem is transporting them, but this can be very easy. Usually with a month and a half veg the plants are still fairly transportable (is that a word? lol.) and they must be kept in small pots to make it easier to get them to their location. It is just 25 plants so really it is not that big of a deal, especially when the grow locations have a garage that has entry into the home.

If thought out and planned properly multiple smaller commercial gardens can be very lucrative and also allow you to expand when you are ready. Another benefit is you don't have all your eggs in one basket. I find it is very possible for one person to have five of these locations going at once. It is an eight hour work day, but the pay off is extremely lucrative. Not everyone can do it as you have to have the locations available, but if it is possible for you then this would be the way to go.

TGT

 

[yamaha_1fan]

Best thing to do and keep numbers down and profit high is to have a seperate place to veg and a seperate place to bud. The veg location can supply your bud location with an unlimited number of plants for very low electrical cost. Actually you can supply multiple bud locations with one veg location. This location can even be an apartment. This way you can veg the whole time the plants are budding, then move the vegged plants to the bud locations when the crop is finsihed and start vegging a new batch for the next round - hope that makes sense. You can have a crop every 2 months with an 8 week strain, or 6 crops a year. Another benefit is all the bud locations only need 12 hours of light at all times keeping electrical consumption down.

I find it takes a week or two to root clones and then you should have a month and a half at the least to veg while the others are budding. The only problem is transporting them, but this can be very easy. Usually with a month and a half veg the plants are still fairly transportable (is that a word? lol.) and they must be kept in small pots to make it easier to get them to their location. It is just 25 plants so really it is not that big of a deal, especially when the grow locations have a garage that has entry into the home.

If thought out and planned properly multiple smaller commercial gardens can be very lucrative and also allow you to expand when you are ready. Another benefit is you don't have all your eggs in one basket. I find it is very possible for one person to have five of these locations going at once. It is an eight hour work day, but the pay off is extremely lucrative. Not everyone can do it as you have to have the locations available, but if it is possible for you then this would be the way to go.

TGT

Well now you are adding more risk by driving around with them.

Also the only way multiple locations helps, is if you have them in different names. If all in one name, it would be easy for them to search all.

Actually now that I think about it, they may not search the others. I got busted with a warehouse operation and they never even drove by my house, let alone search it. They did ask to search another warehouse and my lawyer told me they never would have gotten a warrant for it.

So maybe the different locations would not be searched, I dont know.

 

[SMP]

ROFL.



PS: for your grow at your mom's house, you might just want to try a 4 foot shop light since your a broke 15 year old.

Dude are you kidding me????

That guy gave some of the soundest advice I've seen. He knows his shit and you are calling him a 15 year old??????

I think you got it backwards bro????
SMP

 

[tngreen]

I'm thinking 3 or 4 moms and 20 ebb and grow buckets.. just have to keep clones and veg plants elsewhere... a real p.I.t.a

i would look into tissue culture, the method of rooting clones while they are still on the mother plant. would allow you to get the 20 clones rooted without having the extra plant count.

as far as coco goes, i shouldnt have said 0 waste but it is greatly reduced. for reusing it, check out the coco forum for more info but the basic premise is to soak the coco in a solution of cannazyme to kill the old roots. when i reuse it, i get as much coco off the main rootball as possible which leaves me the small ball of roots closest to the base of the plant. cut this up and it doesnt look any different than dirt.

 

[Daemon]

Best thing to do and keep numbers down and profit high is to have a seperate place to veg and a seperate place to bud. The veg location can supply your bud location with an unlimited number of plants for very low electrical cost. Actually you can supply multiple bud locations with one veg location. This location can even be an apartment. This way you can veg the whole time the plants are budding, then move the vegged plants to the bud locations when the crop is finsihed and start vegging a new batch for the next round - hope that makes sense. You can have a crop every 2 months with an 8 week strain, or 6 crops a year. Another benefit is all the bud locations only need 12 hours of light at all times keeping electrical consumption down.

I find it takes a week or two to root clones and then you should have a month and a half at the least to veg while the others are budding. The only problem is transporting them, but this can be very easy. Usually with a month and a half veg the plants are still fairly transportable (is that a word? lol.) and they must be kept in small pots to make it easier to get them to their location. It is just 25 plants so really it is not that big of a deal, especially when the grow locations have a garage that has entry into the home.

If thought out and planned properly multiple smaller commercial gardens can be very lucrative and also allow you to expand when you are ready. Another benefit is you don't have all your eggs in one basket. I find it is very possible for one person to have five of these locations going at once. It is an eight hour work day, but the pay off is extremely lucrative. Not everyone can do it as you have to have the locations available, but if it is possible for you then this would be the way to go.

TGT

I think this is good advice, though Yamaha raised a good point. If you have a good system down then I really think there is very little risk in transporting clones to the flower site. Of course there are many factors to consider and one should probably have the two locations fairly close together, under different names(not connected in ANY way), and neighbors could be an issue. I think that there isn't any one solution that will work for every situation.

 

[Jon]

ROFL.



PS: for your grow at your mom's house, you might just want to try a 4 foot shop light since your a broke 15 year old.

Question: What in that post seemed to inflame you? Seemed like some good information.

 

[BritishColumbia]

Idiot!

Idiot!

ROFL.



PS: for your grow at your mom's house, you might just want to try a 4 foot shop light since your a broke 15 year old.

WTF is wrong with you?this guy contributed some good info and you shit on him.Everyone's always asking why people are not posting pics of their large commercial grows and i know their around,get these goofs outta here and maybe they would.

 

[MrMcBean]

Hi,

I just had my end of college Exams // Abitur (Germany) and am starting a career as planned.. nonetheless i have had a depressing feeling about the future of working your life as some guy in a Company for a car and a home and a decent retirement..

Im as new to sucessfull growing as i am to this Forum but ive been trying for years lol..

This Thread has given me a tone of bright ideas for the Future.. I Love IT!!!

~Peace oUt~

 

[ItsGrowTime]

I'm a semi-retired invester who spends his time with his family and friends,i came to this site with the intention to share some of my 28 years experience in the business but since a became a member i have noticed a great number of people acting like juvenile delinquents and diss respecting people they don't know which i find disturbing to say the least so to all that are humble and intelligent i wish you the best in your growing endeavours especially you supertoker as your going to need it.

Hey man, dont let the dickheads get to you. Youll find them on every internet forum no matter what the subject matter is. Please stay and share!

Digigrow, what new 25 plant fed limit are you talking about? Elaborate please.

 

[jackhammer]

Well now you are adding more risk by driving around with them.

Also the only way multiple locations helps, is if you have them in different names. If all in one name, it would be easy for them to search all.

Actually now that I think about it, they may not search the others. I got busted with a warehouse operation and they never even drove by my house, let alone search it. They did ask to search another warehouse and my lawyer told me they never would have gotten a warrant for it.

So maybe the different locations would not be searched, I dont know.

Yamaha_1fan...Sorry to hear that you got popped. This kind of experience is good to know so if you don't mind my asking. what happened when you got popped. If you can't provide details I understand but I guess what I'm asking is what can someone expect to have happen if they get busted. How much time for how many plants? First offense?
They didn't give a shit about your home? Bank accounts, property, income source, ect.???

It would be nice to know if anyone is going to be snooping into or looking to confiscate someones home and assets. I wish there was a thread for those who get busted to share their experiences.

 

[BlindDate]

im sure i haven't for the first time experiencing with coco tek mats and i love them so far, haven't went through a full harvest with them yet. But i ask myself if they give you problems or not, and if that comes in the way and you have to spend more time then your obviously wasting time and time = money in commercial. So everything has a up and down can you tell us about the down in reusing coco in every detail since you or you all seem to know it all.

There is absolutely no downside to reusing coco. Rip the old stump out, drop a clone in the hole and carry on. My forth grows produce just as much as the first.

anyway, I'm planning on buying a caterpillar looking at the 35k range that runs on Natural gas instead of diesel for the simple reason of not having to deliver all that diesel. And natural gas costs less then half cost of diesel.
I am curious however, why doesn't anyone else even consider these?

Real expensive to operate. Lots of maintenance. Short lifespan. Diesel is the only way to go.

 

[TGT]

Well now you are adding more risk by driving around with them.

Also the only way multiple locations helps, is if you have them in different names. If all in one name, it would be easy for them to search all.

Actually now that I think about it, they may not search the others. I got busted with a warehouse operation and they never even drove by my house, let alone search it. They did ask to search another warehouse and my lawyer told me they never would have gotten a warrant for it.

So maybe the different locations would not be searched, I dont know.

I don't know if it works this way everywhere, but around where I live the cops only know where your home or rental location is through your drivers liscence. At the other places the only record of you renting is with the owner of the rental and there is no main data base for this info, so the police would have no way of finding the other locations. They could followed you to all the locations before busting the one location if they suspect multiple operations, but usually they just bust you and don't follow first.

You have a good point, transporting the plants pre-vegged does pose another risk. I think if you are going to do it this way you have to take every percaution you can to stay safe. I guess it has it's benefits and its drawbacks too. The reason I suggested this method is because I know someone right now doing it, and it has worked out great for them fo a long time and they keep expanding. I warned him that greed will get him in the end, but he doesn't listen. He is maing enough money for ten families, but he just wants more. I guess it can be an addiction.

TGT

 

[British_Bulldog]

Well yes TGT, greed can be addictive, but it also leads to one's downfall, so best to know when to put the brakes on

It sounds like your friend is playing with fire there, and I hope he doesn't get burned/


Peace