So you wanna be a commercial grower?

[Guest]

just do your thing and maybe sell an oz hear and there to friends and tell them you bought it from some one else and need to sell a few oz to get your meds.when getting big there is something that always goes wrong.jealous people evan your close friends.
i mad that mistake wher when thay would come buy it almost seemed like thay wher black mailing me for weed.i told them i quite growing and haven't heard from them sines.

 

[jackhammer]

Just thought I would add a couple more things..

I have known of one very good friend that pulled this off for years, hes now a reborn christian and stopped and lives in mexico.. Heres how..

Have a cash businesses and invest your cash,, Catering, Laundry Mat, Small Restaurant, Auto Repair Shop, anything that deals in cash transaction.. work their and run a legit business..Cash can be invested in real estate, buy and flip old homes or commercial properties whatever, pay cash for the improvements, and sell the property.. Viola.. Clean Cash..

If you move in the right circles and have done the time then you will have one buyer that you can trust.. If you done the time then when and if he gets popped you prob have another two solid hookups. At one time he was moving 100lbs of the Bombest Sinsimella in this part of Texas every 6 wks.. at about 5K a lb.. do the math.. This is the hardest part and gets most people popped.. When you get desperate to get rid of your product you get caught slippin..

And like Charles said one day some one will come yanking your chain... If you think they wont keep doing what you do but don't be the kind of breed that pisses...


A generator is a must, plenty good ones at decent prices.. He ran this for about one year and would stop, chill out for about two years and do it again.. ran it about three times, cashed out, bounced to Mexico..


Have a plan.. You cant be drug dealer forever.. THis dude always looked stressed and was 36 at the time but looked like 50.. lol.. So make sure that you know what your getting into.. If you are anywhere close the US MeXico border I would tell you to walk on egg shells.. Cartels in those areas dont play.. Dont believe me just do a google search..

I would rather live my everyday average joe life making a decent living than live in constant fear like that dude.. Maybe if I didnt have any kids it would be tempting but not worth it IMHO..

I'd like to add the fact that you have to have an income/expense report to have a legit business. Any business has expenses and you may have to prove it to folks like the IRS, DEA, or local Leo.
It's fine to have income in a business, but what do you do to acquire that income? In the case of my friend the plumber, computers and printers are the key. He makes his own supply house invoices, and they look real good right down to the logo of what ever company he wants to buy from. Ya got to mix it up a little.
Fake supply house invoices look real good as long as no one looks into them further. His accountant buy's it (which most legit business have. remember that point) and knows nothing. However, his paid accountant isn't going to be looking to see if the invoices are real. Leo will though.
My friends thoughts are this...Good camo will make a person respectable beyond belief where he can hide in plain daylight with little to no worries.
I go with the crowd that stashes money some place safe where it won't get jacked. Stashing at several places allows for some level of safety and odds are in your favor that if you lose some you won't lose it all. Family members who won't ask questions are the best with the least amount of risk. In fact, in most cases dealing with family, the only worry you have is if there is a house fire and your shit gets burnt.
Does anybody have any experience using a safe deposit box? My friend has a couple of hand guns that he wants to store. BTW*** He has them disassembled right now in hopes that if he got popped he wouldn’t have additional time tacked on for weapons possession.

 

[Charles Xavier]

Greetings cway

Re: post #77;

Brother, I'm feeling you; I know you know what I'm talking about.

My condolences and empathy extended to you and your family. I hope that at the very least, the sharing of their stories will lead some to consider aspects of commercial cultivation hitherto unconsidered.

Of course, I understand that most here are not entertaining the idea of commercial growing as we've touched upon, however, it must be said that the lines separating the places of reference are not equally delineated by all, and even advanced hobbyists may find themselves in very serious situations because they are dealing with a lucrative black-market commodity and there exists real socio-economic pressures that tend to distort logic by interjecting reality.

When concerning this industry, this is as succinct as one can be:

Point is have plan, make some cash, save your change, and get out....cway

Excellent advice, Brother; let's keep the dialogue flowing.

Sincerely,
Charles.

 

[LiLWaynE]

re-investing in any asset is the key to success.

bottom line.

switching spots is also key.

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

I guess it also depends on WHERE you live. Not for nothing: some parts of the country people are kinda "down-home" good ol' boys. You can hang round and talk moonshine and corn with them. In the cities where life is a rat-race....or anywhere in the northeastern United States...people look at you like you have 12 heads if you say "hello". So it's not unheard of "not to interact with neighbors". I'm no douchebag, but I simply don't see my neighbors...don't notice them coming or going....and invariably never speak to them. I'm sure if I bumped into one of them at a supermarket I'd be civil and say "howdy", but as far as bar-b-ques and tupperware parties...they can keep that to themselves. This is unrelated to growing. Hell, where my home is...I don't even grow. But sure as hell where I do...I don't fraternize with the neighbors in the aforementioned ways. I'm busy, and that doesn't have anything to do with me being "sketched" out, or actively avoiding neighbors. Just don't have time for that jazz...or honestly would rather be hanging with my friends. Rude and weird is the status quo in my part of the world. If you try to go out of your way to be nice, people think you're Norman Bates or Jason Vorhees ready to stab them in the shower. When in Rome....

your so right man, it hink you hit home better then me, i just dont want people ignoring the neighbors in "the parts" where that makes you seam odd.

suprisingly i had neighbors knocking on my door to meet me when i moved in.(apperantly my place was vancant for 2 years, forclosure) so i wasnt planing on making myself high-profile in the area, but IF they do knock, try not to alienate them. you never took your trash out just to find the neighbor pulling in?

anyways, about that commercial thing....

did you guys know you can sell P's to the clubs?(dispensaries)
or zips or whatever if u have the goods...
you could turn a small 8 k grow into somthing you can live reasonable off of....but if you grow your own then you have bargining power, because like alot of you i know growing it dosent cost 40,50,60, or 70$ an eigth...so you can sell zips for whatever you need to...
im not planing on being in any circles...
im trying to keep my hands clean.

xavier seams to have a wealth of info... nice that hes sharing it.
i like the "one guy thing".... if you get to know one of them ......

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

I guess it also depends on WHERE you live. Not for nothing: some parts of the country people are kinda "down-home" good ol' boys. You can hang round and talk moonshine and corn with them. In the cities where life is a rat-race....or anywhere in the northeastern United States...people look at you like you have 12 heads if you say "hello". So it's not unheard of "not to interact with neighbors". I'm no douchebag, but I simply don't see my neighbors...don't notice them coming or going....and invariably never speak to them. I'm sure if I bumped into one of them at a supermarket I'd be civil and say "howdy", but as far as bar-b-ques and tupperware parties...they can keep that to themselves. This is unrelated to growing. Hell, where my home is...I don't even grow. But sure as hell where I do...I don't fraternize with the neighbors in the aforementioned ways. I'm busy, and that doesn't have anything to do with me being "sketched" out, or actively avoiding neighbors. Just don't have time for that jazz...or honestly would rather be hanging with my friends. Rude and weird is the status quo in my part of the world. If you try to go out of your way to be nice, people think you're Norman Bates or Jason Vorhees ready to stab them in the shower. When in Rome....

your so right man, it hink you hit home better then me, i just dont want people ignoring the neighbors in "the parts" where that makes you seam odd.

suprisingly i had neighbors knocking on my door to meet me when i moved in.(apperantly my place was vancant for 2 years, forclosure) so i wasnt planing on making myself high-profile in the area, but IF they do knock, try not to alienate them. you never took your trash out just to find the neighbor pulling in?

anyways, about that commercial thing....

did you guys know you can sell P's to the clubs?(dispensaries)
or zips or whatever if u have the goods...
you could turn a small 8 k grow into somthing you can live reasonable off of....but if you grow your own then you have bargining power, because like alot of you i know growing it dosent cost 40,50,60, or 70$ an eigth...so you can sell zips for whatever you need to...
im not planing on being in any circles...
im trying to keep my hands clean.

xavier seams to have a wealth of info... nice that hes sharing it.
i like the "one guy thing".... if you get to know one of them......

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

I guess it also depends on WHERE you live. Not for nothing: some parts of the country people are kinda "down-home" good ol' boys. You can hang round and talk moonshine and corn with them. In the cities where life is a rat-race....or anywhere in the northeastern United States...people look at you like you have 12 heads if you say "hello". So it's not unheard of "not to interact with neighbors". I'm no douchebag, but I simply don't see my neighbors...don't notice them coming or going....and invariably never speak to them. I'm sure if I bumped into one of them at a supermarket I'd be civil and say "howdy", but as far as bar-b-ques and tupperware parties...they can keep that to themselves. This is unrelated to growing. Hell, where my home is...I don't even grow. But sure as hell where I do...I don't fraternize with the neighbors in the aforementioned ways. I'm busy, and that doesn't have anything to do with me being "sketched" out, or actively avoiding neighbors. Just don't have time for that jazz...or honestly would rather be hanging with my friends. Rude and weird is the status quo in my part of the world. If you try to go out of your way to be nice, people think you're Norman Bates or Jason Vorhees ready to stab them in the shower. When in Rome....

your so right man, it hink you hit home better then me, i just dont want people ignoring the neighbors in "the parts" where that makes you seam odd.

suprisingly i had neighbors knocking on my door to meet me when i moved in.(apperantly my place was vancant for 2 years, forclosure) so i wasnt planing on making myself high-profile in the area, but IF they do knock, try not to alienate them. you never took your trash out just to find the neighbor pulling in?

anyways, about that commercial thing....

did you guys know you can sell P's to the clubs?(dispensaries)
or zips or whatever if u have the goods...
you could turn a small 8 k grow into somthing you can live reasonable off of....but if you grow your own then you have bargining power, because like alot of you i know growing it dosent cost 40,50,60, or 70$ an eigth...so you can sell zips for whatever you need to...
im not planing on being in any circles...
im trying to keep my hands clean.

xavier seams to have a wealth of info... nice that hes sharing it.

 

[cway]

Hello Again Charles and All...

Thanks for the condolences. This was some time ago now and our family has recovered.. Sadly where they live and where we come from this is all to common... Right now the Arrellano Felix Cartel is at war the new Government, and with the Carrillo Fuentes Cartel of Juarez for control of all the US/Mexico Borders. Its real sad, talked to some relatives in Laredo TX and they told me that the other day some Mexican Politician was mowed down with automatic machine guns in broad daylight, waiting for his son at private school. THe cartels have offed at least 30-40 political figures and over 100 other traffickers in the last year. The worst part is that this is happening because the US government is putting pressure on the new PAN Mexican political party to clean house and not harbor Drug Lords.. The thing that people dont realize is that as long as the US consumes drugs at the rate that it does then Mexico will be nothing more than a Bridge for Colombian druglords to transport Cocaine and Heroin, and Mexican Cartels to transport these drugs as well as culitivate pot. The only reason the US is pissed is because its not the CIA smuggling the drugs and they are not funding a "War on Terror" with the proceeds.. Ill stop ranting now but man it pisses me off.. I can rant about this for hours.

 

[LiLWaynE]

damn digital hippy with the triple post.. it was a good triple post though...

staying out of circles is KEY also.

and to cway - bro, i was in texas a month ago for 9 days. I was at the very bottom of texas.. i could have walked into mexico... and what you said really makes tons of sense... its so apparent that this is going on down there.. the police even look crooked... i was staying at a highly affluent hotel, and one day there was a couple of young police officers of mexican descent. These dudes had washed out designer jeans on with a tight muscle shirt that said "police" across them. and to top it all off, they had their guns in a holster on their belt. No cuffs, no walkie talkies, nothing. just a gun. these dudes were walking around my resort like they were fucking cool or something... checking out the chicks..intimidating the dudes... pissed me off...

anyways something needs to be done down there. also, the "border patrol" employs only mexican americans, or people who speak spanish. you trying to tell me a mexican american is going to block out his people from coming to america? You telling me they arent letting their mexican relatives through? its a fucking joke.

anyways, this is a commercial growing thread... mexicans are a commercial growers biggest competitor. If it werent for shit mexican brick coming through, us hard working growers would seriously profit...

 

[cway]

Hi Lil Wayne,

Actually I think that Mexicans, me being one, set the market for all the american commercial growers..When I say that I dont mean I smuggle dope, just grew up in that enviroment, but am far removed from it now.. Mexican dope dealers arent competing with you and other growers in the US growing da kind because they mainly focus transportation of low grade brick weed, but the prices are inflated to a ridicoulous point to where it sets the stage for you guys to charge your 400 a zip. Elbows only run about 70$ in Mexico, but sell for like 300 in the US. The Drug Runners are making about 220 on a lb but bringing like 600 at a time.. Ive seen it man and its crazy amounts of dope. That stuff wont get me high but its really the cultivation methods that degrade the pot, and the wrapping, and transporting.. What Im getting is that these guys arent competing with you, they kind of set the stage if that makes sense. Unless you got some local guys growing da kind but Cartels dont mess with that.. They Smuggle.. And ya all Mexican LEO are crooked... Just the way it is man. They are just a product of a Global Drug War by Ignorant Western powers.. As far as Imigration thats another a whole nother thread and would prob get deleted... for the sakes of keeping this thread civil and alive lets leave the topic alone..

But really IMHO good weed shouldnt cost more than 100 a lb... Just US prohibition has created a high price market..

 

[cway]

I want to make it real clear that I am not in these circles.. My family was for along time and old friends but I am far removed from this.. So if there are any piggies reading this.. Chill out..

 

[LiLWaynE]

Hi Lil Wayne,

Actually I think that Mexicans, me being one, set the market for all the american commercial growers..When I say that I dont mean I smuggle dope, just grew up in that enviroment, but am far removed from it now.. Mexican dope dealers arent competing with you and other growers in the US growing da kind because they mainly focus transportation of low grade brick weed, but the prices are inflated to a ridicoulous point to where it sets the stage for you guys to charge your 400 a zip. Elbows only run about 70$ in Mexico, but sell for like 300 in the US. The Drug Runners are making about 220 on a lb but bringing like 600 at a time.. Ive seen it man and its crazy amounts of dope. That stuff wont get me high but its really the cultivation methods that degrade the pot, and the wrapping, and transporting.. What Im getting is that these guys arent competing with you, they kind of set the stage if that makes sense. Unless you got some local guys growing da kind but Cartels dont mess with that.. They Smuggle.. And ya all Mexican LEO are crooked... Just the way it is man. They are just a product of a Global Drug War by Ignorant Western powers.. As far as Imigration thats another a whole nother thread and would prob get deleted... for the sakes of keeping this thread civil and alive lets leave the topic alone..

But really IMHO good weed shouldnt cost more than 100 a lb... Just US prohibition has created a high price market..

but im saying that if ALL weed was blocked out from entered the states, MY weed would be worth more! No matter the grade!

 

[cway]

dont know If I can argue that..

 

[BrainOGrefuGee]

Na bro...your weed would be worth less....more brick weed gets smoked in us then "dro"... thats why were able to charge $4000+ a loaf...you pay or smoke boo-boo....if all there was is "dro" the demand would go down....the "dro" would be "reggie" and nobody would pay....kinda like canada....1800-2500 a loaf of the "dro" up there, cuz thats all they got...peace....

"Lonely once the drugs are done....I feel like dying....I feel like dying"

 

[cway]

Ill tell you what.. It would be a different Pot Market Globally if not for Mexico Pot Importation.. I hear stories on IC Mag of Dutch Smoking Mexi Brick Weed.. How the Fuck did it get there
Dont know if prices would go up or down though..

 

[BrainOGrefuGee]

nah....its bricked up boo-boo brown, but it's not from mexico tho doggy...thats that African boo-boo brick...same thing going on just a different part of the world.....

"O yes I love her like.....pussy, money, weed.........pussy, money, weed"

 

[cway]

Makes Sense.. I guess people just associate bad brick weed with Mexico.. If you line up all the countries that import brick weed they are all pretty low on food chain as far as Industrial and Major Economical players on a global basis..Pretty sad they cant take advantage of this resource and development Better Infrastucture and what not.

Sorry guys but Im stoned so at any time feel free to tell me to stop my rant.

 

[BrainOGrefuGee]

Orale holmes.....amor de Latino's

 

[wafflehouselove]

I heard that all commercial growers have a Head and a Tail

 

[dj digigrow]

we should talk more about security, electricity usage, smell protection, automated grows(im feelin those), and whatever else that has to do with security.. which is key.....