Smoking On Probation?

[HempKat]

So yeah, I can't smoke on probation which sucks...but, I've been taking Niacin and drinking tons of water...passed a home drug test for weed... YES!!! So, being 6'0 195 lbs, it came out of my system in about 5 days..sweet, bring on the drug test. Didn't get called in today, but I probably will soon..don't even need that drink now, save it for when I do smoke a lot, then I'll use it to pass..shit man, this drug test stuff is easy to pass if you don't smoke like chimney.

Well it's not just a matter of how much you smoke in one session. It's also a matter of how frequently you smoke. If you smoke only occasionally and don't go crazy when you do smoke then yeah it's not too difficult to conceal things. If however you smoke daily for a long period of time, even if the daily amount is just a little, it will take longer to get clean from your last session.

Another thing to be careful of is the level needed by the test to trigger a positive result. A home test you buy at the store might have a higher cut off point then parole and probation. In other words a home test might come up negative but a test done by parole and probation done at the same time might come up positive. Some tests have a 50 ng/ml cut-off which is fairly easy to pass for an occasional smoker. Other tests however have a 15 ng/ml cut-off and may show up as a positive for as much as 2-3 weeks even for occasional smokers.

Here's a link to a web page on NORML's website that has some useful info about drug testing and marijuana.

http://norml.org/marijuana/drug-testing/item/the-abcs-of-marijuana-and-drug-testing

 

[HOPS5K]

Thanks for the info HempKat, that really helps me understand this process a little better...never been in trouble, so this is all new to me.

I just don't get how he can like, not drug test me after a certain point of compliance...it's cool and all, but I guess he has a heart, I dunno.

 

[HempKat]

Thanks for the info HempKat, that really helps me understand this process a little better...never been in trouble, so this is all new to me.

I just don't get how he can like, not drug test me after a certain point of compliance...it's cool and all, but I guess he has a heart, I dunno.

Well like someone pointed out earlier you have to be careful about promises made by parole/probation officers. I'm sure he said that because they do back off of people who consistently test clean but an parole/probation officer could decide at any time, for any reason to request that a person he/she is monitoring, to give a urine sample. Maybe he/she thinks you look high, or that you're acting high, or they think they smell it on you, etc. I wouldn't even put it past them to do it to most of the people they watch just so they'll warn their friends.

All that being said they do back off on people that demonstrate they can stay clean for weeks or months at a time. People that are most likely to come up dirty are people who have real addiction problems because most people won't risk violating and going to jail unless they can't help themselves. So if a person shows they can stay clean for an extended period of time they're more likely to stay clean throughout their parole or probation.

 

[Sforza]

and cocaine does more damage to your body and brain then any other drug out there.. WIERD EH?

Not in my experience. Meth and alcohol are both worse.

 

[HOPS5K]

Anyone else here try the niacin method of flushing your system? I've had success with it in the past and I've also done it on short notice..less than 24 hrs notice, but that was years ago when I had a faster metabolism...I was also a heavy smoker, like an 8th a day, but also worked out like a mad man and drank like 2 gallons of water.

 

[HOPS5K]

What would happen if I failed a probation test and told the officer I accidentally ingested an unwrapped, unlabeled piece of edible cannabis?

 

[HempKat]

What would happen if I failed a probation test and told the officer I accidentally ingested an unwrapped, unlabeled piece of edible cannabis?

That might work it would all depend on how cool the probation/parole officer is. Some might buy a story like this or one where something very stressful happened and it caused you to use as you tried to cope with whatever it was you said happened. On the other hand your PO could be a "by the letter of the book", jerk. So basically you have to feel all that stuff out as you go. In general though most PO's are overworked and underpaid and they have huge case loads because not that many want to be a PO. So because of that they come to appreciate the ones that cause them the least amount of trouble and are more likely to cut them some slack.

Really what they should do at least for now is do blood tests. Blood tests will come up clean after just a few hours and therefore is a more accurate indicator of recent use. I think it's wrong that someone be judge by a result that points to a use up to a month back. Of course there are a lot of reasons people would protest against forced blood tests, so it will probably never be widely used if even used at all. There is also a saliva test they can do as well as changes in how your eyes will function. Slower dilation of eyes in response to light, a relaxing of certain muscles that can be measured which is what makes weed a good medicine for treating glaucoma.

One other thing I wanted to point out. You mentioned drinking 2 gallons of water. First off drinking lots of water will effect your levels of keytones and people have been trying that trick for quite some time and so the labs doing the tests have learned to screen for that. Additionally in case you don't know this, it is possible to drink too much water in too short of a period and you can experience water intoxication and if not handled properly it can be fatal. So it's really not worth the risk since they know how to screen for it. If caught that way they would most likely treat it as a dirty urine or perhaps an altered urine which is essentially the same thing in their eyes.

 

[snake11]

What would happen if I failed a probation test and told the officer I accidentally ingested an unwrapped, unlabeled piece of edible cannabis?

I have a feeling you would be told it is your responsibility to make sure you don't ingest cannabis. I don't see them being forgiving.

 

[Crusader Rabbit]

Sweet deal snake...I have one called Test Pass, it has like, a 300% money back guarantee if you don't pass.

Cool. Make sure to bring the paperwork for getting a refund with you when they haul your ass off to jail.

 

[floralheart]

Bought a 1/4 of mexican on a saturday, smoked it saturday and sunday, tested on a tuesday, and got the job.

That was 15 years ago.

 

[HOPS5K]

The same thing has happened to me too, floralheart. Smoked a day before the drug test and passed the next day and got the job.

Since I got out, I've only smoked a bowl and a couple hits at a friends house.

So, my number got called today...test in an hour.

 

[snake11]

The same thing has happened to me too, floralheart. Smoked a day before the drug test and passed the next day and got the job.

Since I got out, I've only smoked a bowl and a couple hits at a friends house.

So, my number got called today...test in an hour.

Hope it went well!!!

 

[LEF]

I think its a felony to use the whizinator

Just googled and thats what they say, there were cases on it

If someone on parole or probation fails a drug test, Talbert says they usually get something like extra community service.
But the 'Whizzinator' gave Pearson a brand new fourth degree felony charge.

If they look at your penis then they might notice something, not sure, it seems it happened to some people. I thought it was a good idea too, they even have different colors for all races.

 

[shithawk420]

It probably is a felony to use the whizzinator.don't get caught

 

[HempKat]

Bought a 1/4 of mexican on a saturday, smoked it saturday and sunday, tested on a tuesday, and got the job.

That was 15 years ago.

15 years ago the tests were more expensive and not as accurate. Fast forward to today and they have pee containers that will start testing for up to 12-14 different things and can detect adulterants. All on it's own as soon as you pee in the cup.

http://www.americanscreeningcorp.co...ampaign=1523&gclid=CP6VjPSngMYCFcWPHwodwG4AcQ

Also you say it was for a job. Back in the day you paid separately for the tests so some companies would opt to only test for the drugs they were most concerned about and/or they would randomly rotate what they tested for so it's conceivable they weren't even testing for THC that day.

Oh and that another thing, they test for metabolites of THC but that's not the only psycho active thing in the resin. So it's conceivable if you didn't smoke frequently and you smoked low THC schwag like some Mexican brick weed off the street then there might not be enough THC to trigger the positive for THC, even though you smoked marijuana.

 

[HOPS5K]

I'm just going to quit smoking until I'm off drug tests..simple solution.

I think I passed the first one yesterday, but not totally sure...if I didn't, I dunno, I'll just explain what happened honestly..maybe they test me more for longer, but this is my first time dealing with this 'ish, so I'm just simply going to do what i know is right and quit smoking weed.

 

[HempKat]

I'm just going to quit smoking until I'm off drug tests..simple solution.

I think I passed the first one yesterday, but not totally sure...if I didn't, I dunno, I'll just explain what happened honestly..maybe they test me more for longer, but this is my first time dealing with this 'ish, so I'm just simply going to do what i know is right and quit smoking weed.

Well if they're cool they'll likely not violate you this time and as long as they see your levels going down they'll like stay cool about it. They realize that most people being sent to them the first time they're likely to test positive for some drugs especially for the ones that stay in your urine longest like marijuana. So as long as the levels keep dropping and you eventually test negative they'll usually not make an issue of it.

Abstinence is the best solution but it's also the hardest one.

 

[HOPS5K]

Thanks, HempKat

Yeah, I love my weed, but, I love my freedom more..and I like to think the dude is cool, he's very soft spoken and seems to be understanding of my mmj use, so, there's positive in that.

 

[wegobigupnorth]

Obviously it's a felony to use the whizzanator...didn't know that part needed to be stated..it was even posted behind the urinal that tampering with urine samples in anyway was a "serious crime" and that is exactly why I keep suggesting the whizzanator as opposed to just a "field kit" with synthetic urine. Whovever told me they are the same thing clearly has never seen a whizzanator

It is unreal how REAL these things look and even feel. If you get one that matches your skin tone they could take a picture of your "dick" for examination and no one would be able to tell. Some how I doubt they are going to be looking close up or touching your dick though

Theu are cheap and what my friend does sometimes if he doesn't have synthetic urine or doesn't want to buy it he gets his totally clean brother to piss in a water bottle, he will freeze it if it won't be used right away as that shit turns foil quick and he just uses the microwave the morning off to defrost is.

Personally I would just use synthetic urine fr a reputable company with a money back garuntee as handling piss, espicallly if it's a little bit old, is fucking gross. Sythetics are 100% identical in every way but at least you know it's not someone's gross ass days old piss. Plus who wants t keep real piss in the freezer where they keep their food loll

I know once you see a whizzanator you will not doubt at all if it will work or not

 

[HOPS5K]

Just passed another at home drug test..sweet! now, if I could only have a celabatory bowl, that would be nice.