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Shiva Grows
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1a The story of Enoch: how the Lord took him to heaven
|There was| a wise man and a great artisan whom the LORD took away.
And he loved him so that he might see the highest realms;
and of the most wise and great and inconceivable and unchanging
kingdom of God almighty, •and of the most marvelous and glorious and shining and many-eyed station of the LORD’s servants, and of the LORD’s immovable throne,
• and of the ranks and organization of the bodiless armies, and of the indescribable composition of the multitude of elements,
• singing of the army of the cherubim, and of the light without measure, to be an eyewitness.
1 |Concerning Enoch’s dream|
At that time he said, When 165 years were complete for me, I fathered my son Methusala; and after that I lived 200 years.
I completed all the years of my life, 365 years. •In the first month, on the assigned day of the first month, I was in my house alone.
And I lay on my bad sleeping. •And, while I slept, a great distress entered my heart, and I was weeping with my eyes in a dream. And I could not figure out what this distress might be, |nor| what might be
happening to me. •Then two huge men appeared to me, the like of which I had never seen on earth.
Their faces were like the shining sun;
their eyes were like burning lamps;
from their mouths fire was coming forth;
their clothing was various singing;
their wings were more glistening than gold;
their hands were whiter than snow.
And they stood at the head of my bed and called me by my name.
Then I awake from my sleep, and saw those men, standing in front of me, in actuality.
•Then I bowed down to them; and I was terrified; and the appearance of my face was changed because of fear. •Then those men said to me, “Be brave, Enoch! In truth, do not fear! The eternal God has sent us to you. And behold, you will ascend with us to heaven today. •And tell your sons 〈|and all the members of your household,|〉 everything that they must do in your house while they are without you on the earth. And let no one search for you until the LORD returns you to them.” •And I hurried and obeyed them; and I went out of my house and I shut the doors as I had been ordered. And I called my sons, Methusalam and Regim and Gaidad. And I declared to them all the marvels that those men had told me.
2 |The instruction. How Enoch instructs his sons. “1.”|
“Listen, my children! I do not know where I am going,
nor what will confront me. •Now, my children, |I say to you|:
Do not turn away from God.
Walk before his face,
and keep his commandments.
Do not abhor the prayers of your salvation,
so that the LORD will not curtail the work of your hands.
And do not be ungenerous with the LORD’s gifts, and the LORD will not be ungenerous with his donations and love-gifts in your storehouses.
And bless the LORD with the firstborn of your herds and the firstborn of your children, and the blessing will be on you forever.
And do not turn away from the LORD, and do not worship vain gods, gods who did not created the heaven and the earth or any other created thing; for they will perish, and so will those who worship them.
And may God make your hearts true in reverence for him.
And now, my children, no one must search for me until the LORD returns me to you.”
|There was| a wise man and a great artisan whom the LORD took away.
And he loved him so that he might see the highest realms;
and of the most wise and great and inconceivable and unchanging
kingdom of God almighty, •and of the most marvelous and glorious and shining and many-eyed station of the LORD’s servants, and of the LORD’s immovable throne,
• and of the ranks and organization of the bodiless armies, and of the indescribable composition of the multitude of elements,
• singing of the army of the cherubim, and of the light without measure, to be an eyewitness.
1 |Concerning Enoch’s dream|
At that time he said, When 165 years were complete for me, I fathered my son Methusala; and after that I lived 200 years.
I completed all the years of my life, 365 years. •In the first month, on the assigned day of the first month, I was in my house alone.
And I lay on my bad sleeping. •And, while I slept, a great distress entered my heart, and I was weeping with my eyes in a dream. And I could not figure out what this distress might be, |nor| what might be
happening to me. •Then two huge men appeared to me, the like of which I had never seen on earth.
Their faces were like the shining sun;
their eyes were like burning lamps;
from their mouths fire was coming forth;
their clothing was various singing;
their wings were more glistening than gold;
their hands were whiter than snow.
And they stood at the head of my bed and called me by my name.
Then I awake from my sleep, and saw those men, standing in front of me, in actuality.
•Then I bowed down to them; and I was terrified; and the appearance of my face was changed because of fear. •Then those men said to me, “Be brave, Enoch! In truth, do not fear! The eternal God has sent us to you. And behold, you will ascend with us to heaven today. •And tell your sons 〈|and all the members of your household,|〉 everything that they must do in your house while they are without you on the earth. And let no one search for you until the LORD returns you to them.” •And I hurried and obeyed them; and I went out of my house and I shut the doors as I had been ordered. And I called my sons, Methusalam and Regim and Gaidad. And I declared to them all the marvels that those men had told me.
2 |The instruction. How Enoch instructs his sons. “1.”|
“Listen, my children! I do not know where I am going,
nor what will confront me. •Now, my children, |I say to you|:
Do not turn away from God.
Walk before his face,
and keep his commandments.
Do not abhor the prayers of your salvation,
so that the LORD will not curtail the work of your hands.
And do not be ungenerous with the LORD’s gifts, and the LORD will not be ungenerous with his donations and love-gifts in your storehouses.
And bless the LORD with the firstborn of your herds and the firstborn of your children, and the blessing will be on you forever.
And do not turn away from the LORD, and do not worship vain gods, gods who did not created the heaven and the earth or any other created thing; for they will perish, and so will those who worship them.
And may God make your hearts true in reverence for him.
And now, my children, no one must search for me until the LORD returns me to you.”
Scribes and Scripture
In Scribes and Scripture, scholars John D. Meade and Peter J. Gurry answer common questions about the writing, copying, canonizing, and translating of the Bible and give readers tools to interpret the evidence about God’s word.www.crossway.org
Ezekiel 7 NKJV
Judgment on Israel Is Near
7 Moreover the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 2 “And you, son of man, thus says the Lord God to the land of Israel:‘An end! The end has come upon the four corners of the land.
3 Now the end has come upon you,
And I will send My anger against you;
I will judge you according to your ways,
And I will repay you for all your abominations.
4 My eye will not spare you,
Nor will I have pity;
But I will repay your ways,
And your abominations will be in your midst;
Then you shall know that I am the Lord!’
5 “Thus says the Lord God:
‘A disaster, a singular disaster;
Behold, it has come!
6 An end has come,
The end has come;
It has dawned for you;
Behold, it has come!
7 Doom has come to you, you who dwell in the land;
The time has come,
A day of trouble is near,
And not of rejoicing in the mountains.
8 Now upon you I will soon pour out My fury,
And spend My anger upon you;
I will judge you according to your ways,
And I will repay you for all your abominations.
9 ‘My eye will not spare,
Nor will I have pity;
I will [a]repay you according to your ways,
And your abominations will be in your midst.
Then you shall know that I am the Lord who strikes.
10 ‘Behold, the day!
Behold, it has come!
Doom has gone out;
The rod has blossomed,
Pride has budded.
11 Violence has risen up into a rod of wickedness;
None of them shall remain,
None of their multitude,
None of [b]them;
Nor shall there be wailing for them.
12 The time has come,
The day draws near.
‘Let not the buyer rejoice,
Nor the seller mourn,
For wrath is on their whole multitude.
13 For the seller shall not return to what has been sold,
Though he may still be alive;
For the vision concerns the whole multitude,
And it shall not turn back;
No one will strengthen himself
Who lives in iniquity.
14 ‘They have blown the trumpet and made everyone ready,
But no one goes to battle;
For My wrath is on all their multitude.
15 The sword is outside,
And the pestilence and famine within.
Whoever is in the field
Will die by the sword;
And whoever is in the city,
Famine and pestilence will devour him.
16 ‘Those who survive will escape and be on the mountains
Like doves of the valleys,
All of them mourning,
Each for his iniquity.
17 Every hand will be feeble,
And every knee will be as weak as water.
18 They will also be girded with sackcloth;
Horror will cover them;
Shame will be on every face,
Baldness on all their heads.
19 ‘They will throw their silver into the streets,
And their gold will be like refuse;
Their silver and their gold will not be able to deliver them
In the day of the wrath of the Lord;
They will not satisfy their souls,
Nor fill their stomachs,
Because it became their stumbling block of iniquity.
20 ‘As for the beauty of his ornaments,
He set it in majesty;
But they made from it
The images of their abominations—
Their detestable things;
Therefore I have made it
Like refuse to them.
21 I will give it as plunder
Into the hands of strangers,
And to the wicked of the earth as spoil;
And they shall defile it.
22 I will turn My face from them,
And they will defile My secret place;
For robbers shall enter it and defile it.
23 ‘Make a chain,
For the land is filled with crimes of blood,
And the city is full of violence.
24 Therefore I will bring the worst of the Gentiles,
And they will possess their houses;
I will cause the pomp of the strong to cease,
And their holy places shall be defiled.
25 [c]Destruction comes;
They will seek peace, but there shall be none.
26 Disaster will come upon disaster,
And rumor will be upon rumor.
Then they will seek a vision from a prophet;
But the law will perish from the priest,
And counsel from the elders.
27 ‘The king will mourn,
The prince will be clothed with desolation,
And the hands of the common people will tremble.
I will do to them according to their way,
And according to what they deserve I will judge them;
Then they shall know that I am the Lord!’ ”
Not sure of the reason, but Enoch wasn't included in the original Biblical Cannon. Need to read 'Scribes and Scriptures' book. Enoch was so far back in the ancient patriarchs, he didn't have much to do with Moses's leadership and writings he received from the Lord.
May be some good things to glean, but it should be in agreement with the rest of God's word.
May be some good things to glean, but it should be in agreement with the rest of God's word.
shiva82
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christianity got hijacked from the beginning . the church the whole establishment are babylonian hangers on
shiva82
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the message i receive is that god [jesus] sees all . your thoughts, your intentions ,everything. that entity , knows whether you are sincere or not, innocent or guilty and so on. god says to pray as silent as possible so nobody would ever even know. never openly pray or worship . i could make a full list of all the reasons why i feel the evolved christianity is commiting sin. it would be quite a long list
shiva82
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the vision i have of the human form god took as the aramaic speaking judean hebrew , is that of perfect good man. that did no harm , and wanted peace for all and wanted us all to treat ourselves and each other better , as best as we can . to stop ripping each other off, stop sacrificing babies and animals , etc etc , stop all the nonsense and try better humankind on individual levels.
