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San Diego Finest Cuts #3
- Thread starter DoobieDuck
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What strength Bleach are you cutting down to 10%?
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/inside-californias-scramble-toward-legal-weed-w508593
For all you cut and paste challenged individuals
For all you cut and paste challenged individuals
DRM Ranch
Member
No real way of knowing what pyrethrins (natural or synthetic) are being used without having a lab look into it.
I just found out that as well as pyrethrins it contains canola oil, so there is your oily substance.
Sorry I should have been more clear; 9 parts by volume distilled water to 1 part by volume unscented household bleach containing 5% sodium hypochlorite.
I will go back and edit that for clarity.
Happy Friday the 13th
DRM Ranch
Member
From the linked article above...
For the average Joe that wants to buy some weed this is great, if all he is looking at is price.
I have a hard time crunching the numbers and seeing how a business that isn't legal at the federal level and is thus taxed without the ability to take the normal deductions can see enough profit to support California's wages let alone profit.
When Californians voted this into law, the premise was big agriculture was to be put off, allowing the small time folk a real chance at entering the industry.
Unless I am missing something our law makers have no intention of following through on that.
For the grower, it seems to be a system designed to make failure a very real possibility for anyone who wants to run an honest but modest quality cannabis grow operation.
My first thought is that the product pushed out by a legal grow is going to be of questionable quality and perhaps safety simply because of the need to run at a profit, as is expected of any business.
Any thoughts?
For the average Joe that wants to buy some weed this is great, if all he is looking at is price.
I have a hard time crunching the numbers and seeing how a business that isn't legal at the federal level and is thus taxed without the ability to take the normal deductions can see enough profit to support California's wages let alone profit.
When Californians voted this into law, the premise was big agriculture was to be put off, allowing the small time folk a real chance at entering the industry.
Unless I am missing something our law makers have no intention of following through on that.
For the grower, it seems to be a system designed to make failure a very real possibility for anyone who wants to run an honest but modest quality cannabis grow operation.
My first thought is that the product pushed out by a legal grow is going to be of questionable quality and perhaps safety simply because of the need to run at a profit, as is expected of any business.
Any thoughts?
DRM Ranch
Member
What kills me is the question of who is guiding the whole regulatory process?
On the one hand you might want knowledgeable people holding the lawmakers hands...and on the other not so much because the most knowledgeable are also the big players who are very interested in remaining exactly that.
Is anyone aware of how us little fish can put in our $0.02?
On the one hand you might want knowledgeable people holding the lawmakers hands...and on the other not so much because the most knowledgeable are also the big players who are very interested in remaining exactly that.
Is anyone aware of how us little fish can put in our $0.02?
Caligreen1
Member
Hey guys nice to see ya, whats all this cyanide talk?!?
Got some nitrogen issues with my plants at day 40 of 12/12, one plant looks great (padlock) and it has been watered the most(a pint more than the other ladies a day), but some Jet Fuels which are just as large as the padlock are showing signs of either lockout or not enough food? Are they beastly like I'm thinking they are and just want more? Or is the medium drying up a bit too much and maybe they have salt build up? Basically doing a no drainage keep the medium moist the entire grow without ever flushing til the end. It has been a successful technique in other coco grows I've seen, but perhaps I'm not watering enough, or should I do a flush? Thanks for the tips!
Also, what would cause some cuts to "dud"(lack of resin/smell but great growth overall) while others seem to be frosting up and smell amazing? Same size plants, same tent, same medium....
Got some nitrogen issues with my plants at day 40 of 12/12, one plant looks great (padlock) and it has been watered the most(a pint more than the other ladies a day), but some Jet Fuels which are just as large as the padlock are showing signs of either lockout or not enough food? Are they beastly like I'm thinking they are and just want more? Or is the medium drying up a bit too much and maybe they have salt build up? Basically doing a no drainage keep the medium moist the entire grow without ever flushing til the end. It has been a successful technique in other coco grows I've seen, but perhaps I'm not watering enough, or should I do a flush? Thanks for the tips!
Also, what would cause some cuts to "dud"(lack of resin/smell but great growth overall) while others seem to be frosting up and smell amazing? Same size plants, same tent, same medium....
DRM Ranch
Member
The dud issue has come up from time to time, I'm sure someone familiar with that can address it better than I.
As for, the mid-flower yellowing...you would need to provide a more detailed description of your grow, the nutrients and how you use them including any notes on the grow from start till now.
My initial stab in the dark would revolve around root mass in X sized container vs plant size (root bound) suggesting a smaller than optimal container which in turn restricts the plants access to a sufficient quantity of nutrients over the span between feeding/watering.
Perhaps a larger container and thusly more substrate would have held enough nutrient solution over the span I mentioned above to maintain greener foliage.
I come to this because you mention daily watering, which suggests the plants are up taking quite a bit if not all of what you are offering. I must assume the plant is exceptionally well rooted or root bound.
Alternatively you are judging the need to water/feed incorrectly and watering more often than needed. I am not particularly inclined to believe this is the case as you would likely have other issues that would seem much more important than just a nitrogen issue.
Lockout is a possibility, a pH test of the substrate will tell you if that is the case.
As for the cyanide talk, anything we apply to our plants experiences an entire scope of chemical changes when we consume the products of our labor. Some things that we may use contain just the right quantities of base chemicals (natural or synthetic) to create new and sometimes dangerous new chemicals. Earlier we talked about when heated one such product creates hydrogen cyanide.
I think the general consensus is that the safety of the end product is reduced when we use certain chemicals (natural or synthetic) to address issues on our plants. Also fitting in here well is the fact that we tend to share/sell/give away/gift our stuff to a variety of people who could very well be harmed by our earlier use of a product to address some issue we had. Ethics is the whole of all really.
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Tardigrade
Active member
Check the roots. When they are close to dry, pull them out of the pots and inspect them. Are they white and healthy looking? There's a bunch of fungus / root issues that lead to those symptoms and it is pot by pot.
Coco? Constant runoff/flush is the way.
sour power
Active member
What dispensary has good clones with good phenos of said clone?wasted my time so far.everything ive ran out of san diego dispensaries has been only ok at best.does anyone out here have fire?or must i keep traveling up north for cuts?anyone have some up to date findings on where to source good cuts.please pm me asap.ps i love pheno hunting but not for every strain
Caligreen1
Member
Yes medium is coco and I want them to dry out daily, or not completely dry but I want them to require daily watering...Its a technique I adopted from other coco growers, keep the medium moist all the time and the salt doesnt build up. They are breathing very well and drinking a lot. Like I mentioned the healthiest of the bunch has actually received the most water as it is the largest plant and dries out most quickly. I will try to get some runoff next time and measure the PH/EC. I'll also check the roots, thanks guys
HI Sour,
I don't know which dispo's you go to. I know that Desert Rose supplies a number of dispos with their clones. I used them for the clones for my first grow. more details about that than you could ever want are in the link in my sig. Long story short, I believe the clones labelled as Adub were probably accurately labeled. The GG#4 and Dubtech 7's I think may not have been. In fairness, the other two strains might have been true but lack of experience on my part in growing, harvesting, curing, etc. could well have pushed them into the "meh" realm of quality.
Of the six plants I purchased, one dubtech 7 never rooted. The other one grew ok for a while but really turned weird after flipping to 12/12. The two Adubs were rabid in their growth, the two gg4's grew almost like two separate strains, one vigorous and one kind of runty. I'd like to try a whole tray of the Adubs, I think it would turn out great. I just have some other stuff I'm trying to get going atm
Edit: NM, I had suggested you go to the SDFC meet up but Growtech kindly pointed out to me the meet up was yesterday. Doh!
DRM Ranch
Member
In my best 300 voice...THIS IS SAN DIEGO!!!
Of course there is fire here, though it might be helpful if you gave us a description of what you are looking for.
sour power
Active member
Right now im looking for og's that are seriously potent with the smell and look,and have a decent to good yeild.hybrids of sour d are welcome as well.so far though every cut i have received has been ok at best and honestly thats an over statement.not saying there isnt fire in san diego i know there is but when it comes to the dispensaries no luck so far for me.ive seen guys on craigslist with outstanding genetics buts thats craigslist.i cant bring myself to buy clones off craigslist lol .i rather just fly to the bay but damn its getting old.
San Diego county is not going to give out any of the new grow licenses come 2018. They have opted out.
