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Avinash.miles

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Do you run any mother plants at all? I am wondering if my mother plant room in the basement is too cool? I am running some CFLs so the temp stays about 65 degrees always.

i keep some moms; i'd say 65 is a tad low
easy solution is to run more powerful lights - 315w CMH would be my prime go-to
 

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Damnit. Catpiss and a Chem sounds much better than the Catpiss x Forum I've seen. Even so, that plant fookin' smells. It's intoxicating in the real sense of the word.

Easy to say I am jello.

i'm thankful for breeding that makes sense to me

a stinky catpiss ammonia smelling strain crossed to a sweet OG creamy cookies doesnt make sense to me - that doesn't mean that i don't believe dank could come from such a cross. I just like my stinkies crossed to my stinkies and my fruitys with my fruity's.... stacking flavor profiles rather than mixing them...
a chem and a catpiss makes sense to me... going for that nasty nasty
 

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thanks tbone :D

been steadily foliar spraying - liquid calphos, seagreen kelp, em5, DIY greencleaner made w iso & dr bronners soap, flying skull nukem - rotating them all
i spray about 3 time during lights out about 3 times per week in the first few weeks of bloom

sometimes (too often) around early bloom i feel like i don't have a clue what im doing and i'm in the dark all of a sudden looking for ways to make this run extra-proper - should i defoliate more? should i leave them alone? too warm, too cool? hotspots? mulch or no mulch or green mulch? checking everything and tinkering and hoping i dont fuck shit up
since going organic it seems timing of topdressings is key - apply earlier than you think it seems...

the new pump didn't work on soaker hose, seems like when it hit some pressure it backed off intensity instead of powering thru and making that hose weep... shit pisses me off because gilmour fuckers warned me their shit ain't meant to be used on pumps. and yet i know at least one person reading this right now is using gilmore soaker hoses on pumps.... (nameles, 20sackzack... looking at yall)
fuck me
about to go back to a simple sump pump 1500 gph i guess- pump number 4!
been hand watering about 2 times per week about 10 gallons in the bed per watering and another 10-15 on the plants on benches (which dry out quicker, significantly), seems like most of the soil is staying plenty moist im just adding water to re-moisten surface layer and get a lil bit of penetration into the lower layers of the soil bed, which is 24 inches deep. my guess is the soil bed could be watered heavily and left alone for 10-15 days without any dangerous dry-out... maybe longer even, maybe 2x that.
 
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^ lil bit after a foliar spray

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^ canopy shot showing a row of side plants - the ones on benches

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^ canopy, week 1

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^ shot taken over the walls toward the corner with no reflective panel - i have materials for a panel going along the other far long wall... need to get it up will make the whole grow alot brighter once it has 3 sides close in and reflective as hell

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^ looking down that long row with the bench that has no reflective panel wall yet... soon tho
 

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Miles, I like seeing you making the movable walls. Years ago I made a bunch of panels to help reflect light, one is free standing so I can move it around and the others are the doors to my grow rooms. You should think about getting some mylar at some point to put on your reflective walls. I know lots of people use just flat white reflective surfaces, but a reflective surface like mylar reflects many times more the amount of light, even when it's really dirty. It's a pain to hang, but if you have extra hands its easier to put hang it. It is well worth the cost and pays for it's self.
 

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that is something i need to try^. avi... i think i steered you wrong on that hose. my third one is no longer working right. looks like the one hose i have that works great was a fluke, not the other way around. im exploring options. ordering a plastic 3 tube sprinkler hose right now. ill keep u posted buddy. my bad
 

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Ganoderma,
I'm pretty sure Avi is using ORCA film. You should check it out. It's far superior to mylar.

You guys using soaker hoses,
Have you tried using the pre-fab drip lines? The package says they need 15psi to work but I used them all summer long with only gravity feeding. They worked wonderful! $20 @ home despot for a brown, 1/2 inch, 50ft line w drippers every 18 inches @.5gal/hour.

Your garden space makes me jelly Avi. It's looking like too much fun!
 

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i want soaker hoses not driplines.... even at one drip every 18 i would need like a bunch, and i was under the impression taht soakers would disperse more evenly and uniform than the drips (depending how the emiters are setup and what emitters) god i thought i could do this easily - considering going to a big thick round soaker hose not these soft collapsable weeper hoses - but the pump will still be the issue i think

another issue with installing drip lines is that i can't do shit now in the room under the canopy, or at least i don't want to, don't want to risk breaking branches when i try to work underneath the canopy and thru the trellis net,
i laid this damn soaker hose down early hoping i wouldn't have to mess with it during the grow....
oh well
i think i'll try ONE MORE fucking pump

fuck... a prefab drip line doesn't sound so bad tho...i just want some kind of spreading emitter so that the drips are spread out more and i need fewer emiter location to cover a big area of soil like my 6 x 12 bed


MJ & Gano - def i THINK the orca film im using is more reflective than both panda plastic OR mylar.... shit is BRIGHT... i used mylar in the past and i couldn't stand the sound of that stuff wrinkling in the wind of the fans. ya im a picky bitch.
def i think the reflective panels are going to make a big difference, they allow air to move around them (and over/under) so not trapping hot air in the canopy space

no worries nameless.... i like the soaker hoses, just don't think i like the gilmours.... might do some research this week on a company making soaker hoses that are meant to be used on pumps not just a home spigot - not sure what the solution here is
i might just have to hand water....
 

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As far as pumps go, there probably are some that reduce flow if it seems like the pump is restricted. Might not be able to handle the slower water flow rate at all.

I've used pumps with drip emitter lines but not the soaker hose. Pump I'm using now is made by "Wayne", called a waterbug. Cheap at 99$, 15-20 lift, Home depo carries it so easily replaced when I attempted to "clean" it.
When I hooked that pump to drip emitters it worked, but there were about 500 emitters on that system, and the flow was fairly slow.

If it was me I would consider a different pump or the emitter tubing. I use emitter tubing w/ emitters every 18 inches, and space lines about 8 inches apart to get quicker coverage versus spacing 12-18. The closer spacing is really overkill, in landscapes and gardens 12-18 is plenty coverage.

Used a lot of the rain bird brand drip emitter hose with no issue, but drip works is about the same$, plus they have 8 and 12 and 18 inch spacing on the emitters if neede
 

nameless

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im gonna have to hand water for a week or so looks like. prefab drip tubing is really tempting. i wonder if they have 25' lengths too...
 

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What kind of pump are you trying to use & why don't you just use domestic water & 25 psi pressure regulator?
 

Avinash.miles

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What kind of pump are you trying to use & why don't you just use domestic water & 25 psi pressure regulator?

i want to bubble my domestic water before using it (like nameless said) AND i want to add my liquid fermentations to the water before giving it to my plants...

first i used a 1500 gph sump, it was old and i left it running and it burnt up and it was SUPER slow on the soaker hose and came out inconsistent - dyr in some spots wet in others... i assumed from not enough pressure
ordered a super el-cheapo that's like 900 gph - also very slow... slower even
so i tried a 2000 gph sump with auto cut off float valve, that one seems like it backs off the pressure when the hose fills, it pumps good pressure but doesnt' push water thru the weeper hose
 
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does your system return? e.g. individual sections of soaker hose on "T"s at the end of distribution line so the water feeds both ends of the soaker hose. pressure line returns to the reservoir & a reducer/constrictor at the return keeps pressure at your required level
 

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does your system return? e.g. individual sections of soaker hose on "T"s at the end of distribution line so the water feeds both ends of the soaker hose. pressure line returns to the reservoir & a reducer/constrictor at the return keeps pressure at your required level

no return, i considered putting the drip lines on a loop so that the feed line from pump would cmoe to a T and with both beginning and end of the soaker hose attatched to the T.....
but instead just hooked it up w no return
you thinkk it would work better with a return style setup?
 

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it just seems like i read somewhere {sometime} about setting these things up so they loop/return for consistent distribution.

idk in practice but am planning a soaker type setup & kind of banking on the return concept to make it distribute evenly. i have one of those 1/2 hp pumps you lower in w/ a standard hose
 

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it just seems like i read somewhere {sometime} about setting these things up so they loop/return for consistent distribution.

idk in practice but am planning a soaker type setup & kind of banking on the return concept to make it distribute evenly. i have one of those 1/2 hp pumps you lower in w/ a standard hose

i'll try it out, dig up a Y or 4 way manifold... (already found 2 Y's one brass one plastic)

worth a try because i don't know HOW i would get in beneath the canopy and trellis net to install drip lines (even the pre-fabs) and get them spaced properly... shit, i could do it just don't wana risk breaking branches and fucking shit up for something unproven and needs more dialing in perhaps

i wana return to a covo that nameless and i started; drip lines/soakers go under hay mulch or on top?
seems like on top they mulch could help disperse water but also may absorb some of the water before it reaches the surface of soil... not sure
which is best.
 
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