Revival of the Ultimate Sativa Thread

[baccas125]

This was a Ray Davies Thai. I purchase these seeds from seedbay back in the day. They were labled at f2 but i believe they are actualy f1's. They came from original Thai stock from the Flying Dutchmans pure Thai.

 

[Ganico]

I like the tiny leaves on that acapulco

 

[gmanwho]

High&lonesome: Isn't it amazing how many branches will come of a flowered plant when reverted to veg again? Amazes me every time.

Sometimes i like to take clone when its already like 2 to 3 week in to flowering. Nodes pop everywhere...


B-safe

 

[marijuanamat]

I think the 1st michoacan could of done with a week or 3 more,no2 will be left to go the extra few weeks to see what differance it makes and i'll be growing out the other 10 seeds i've got then crossing the best 2-4 males with the best 2-4 fems and see how much of an IBL it really is,which i doute it is.

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

What's up Paz? Is that Colombian in a 1L? Man thats huge for such a lil tiny pot. Especially since it ain't even full with soil, haha. Goddamn.

Or maybe it grew into the ground through the bottom?

hola ganico, you are right, the plant grew one thick root into the soil, about 40cm long. when i transplanted it i had to cut that root out, hopefully it will recover fine. we'll see.

peace!

 

[Guest]

Yes, cannabis like to send it's main taproot down as far as it can. As long as some rootball was intact, it should recover fine. The Colombian Gold I have is a very tough plant, the toughest I have grown and wouldn't suffer from such treatment, hope yours is the same, I've heard others say that Colombian strains are pretty tough.

 

[marijuanamat]

I've just put a clone of HHF's colombo goldbud into flower,i'm really looking forward to tasting the fruits after the 18/20 odd weeks flowering its going to take,should be worth it tho.

 

[Guest]

I'm sure you'll like it mat, I have a similar Colombian Gold line that takes 14-16 weeks and is one of my favourites.

 

[Herbalistic]

Yeah, some Colombian would make Herbalistics day...

I just put couple of your Original Haze x Malawi Gold in water cup´s to germ Mat. I am going to try 12/12 from seed with them, sounds like a good idea?

 

[Mad Scientist]

Good luck Herbalistic! Don't hesitate to post some pics later on...

 

[motaco]

@herbalistic sounds good but be careful. O-haze x malawi? a tropical area sat x haze? Man I hope you got high cielings. they're gonna be monsters!

 

[floppyfundanglr]

Ill bow in respect to all the great ones before i ask my question.

i have some mexican bagseed that i have on a 12/12 light cycle from seed. Im curious how these might grow. THere is some variation in traits among some of the seedlings ranging from looking absolutly sativa to a wider leafed bigger phenos so theyre is some hybridization. what are some ranges for flowering time and when would it start if it was 12/12 from seed. I guess it shouldnt be equitorial so hopefully not too long. Also if some are indica influenced i guess 7-10 weeks? What do you all think?

peace

 

[Guest]

12/12 from seed, sativas often take 30 days to begin flowering. A Mexican will probably be 12-14 weeks, so you're looking at 44 months seed to harvest probably. With bagseed it's a lottery, so that's only a rough estimate, you could end up with some extreme sativa expression that takes 6 months, but often with sativas the longer it takes to flower the more rewarding the end product as you feel satisfied you had the patience to wait the full term in order to enjoy a unique exotic high that is all too rare as so many folks won't wait that long. A friend of mine who only grows indicas like Nl and White Widow told me repeatedly I was crazy to wait 16 weeks for my Zamal/Haze to flower, he instantly knew why after he smoked it, he didn't even realise cannabis could give you that kind of high.

 

[green_grow]

brit ... this is what i want to hear . i got into growing because i didnt want the heavy couch-lock so common in commercial grass these days . i was starting to think that was just the way my body reacted to marijuana. having been around these forums for a year now, i am convinced that i can grow the kind of ganja i am looking for . a 4-6 months wait is worth it, besides, it's nice just to look at them .

 

[motaco]

further south they might not flower immediately but I will bet that they'll flower and be done seed to harvest within 120 days. probably less maybe only 90. all the mexicans I've done have anyway.

 

[Herbalistic]

Yeah Motaco, well see how Herbalistic handles this..

I was thinking to bend the plants 90 degree´s at about the halfway of the flowering, if the strecthing demands it! I think I should "survive" quite well and was thinking to start them in small drinking cup´s and transplate them to the final 3 litre pot´s. How does this sound?

This is going to be interesting, im growing in coco, so nutes are in game from almost beginning. I hope I dont mess up dosing. Blaah blaah, this or that, I will try this thing now with couple seeds to see if I have any potential to be 12/12 from seed & sog grower, or do I stick up with bigger plants.

I am going to post new pics tomorrow of the dry NH and some new shots of our old friend OH x SK#1 & the "new" NH that has survived quite well of the accidental pollunation and is pushing new hair.

BTW, I have to ask you motaco because of your location, how´s the life in today´s New Orleans? I would love to visit the place someday, because of it´s history and unique athmosphere! Or are they gone? + I have to thank you once again of this thread that joins growers worldwide, polar growers, hermanos, good old boys from the states and of course our british mate´s and so many more nationality´s etc...

So long U.S.T threaders :wawe:

 

[Guest]

I was talking about times indoors, which is what I know, but like motaco says, things will probably be faster outdoors in a decent climate. The key thing is to wait, be patient and let em fully express their sativa traits. A lot of sativas flower in stages and can look done several weeks before they are. The Colombian Gold I have flowers in three stages and it's an easy mistake to pick them at 11-12 weeks as they look done, but leave them 14-15 and they have the full effect and taste. I honestly think the folks that can't be bothered waiting for a sativa to finish probably haven't grown many/any and are missing out on a whole segment of the spectrum of cannabis highs.

My first sativa experience was when I was 14, one of the first times I smoked cannabis, it was a work placement from shool, two weeks in the middle of nowhere unearthing a viking village with 50 archaeology students from Bradford University. I kept half of a pure Thai joint from a smokin round the campfire session the night before and wandered off at lunch the next day and lay flat on my back on the top of a hill in the bright sunshine on a perfect summers day and smoked it while watching the clouds float by. I was there for 2 hours before I decided I better head back and more importantly, find something to eat! lol From that day I've been a sativa fan.

 

[Herbalistic]

I agree with you BH. It´s easy to misharvest even these sativadominant hybrids. The OH x SK#1 I have did look done a week ago, but has started to really push new hair´s this week, so there is going to be atleast three weeks left. Well see, a friend of mine who I gifted the cut started flowering his almost at the same time with me, but is harvesting his inside the next week. It´s nice to compare the effects of his & mine.

I think you couldnt be introduced into sativas much better, sounds so timeless! Mine first sativa experience was with sticky & black African that left four young men speachless...

 

[muddy waters]

I would have to say that in my limited experience, pure sativas will take longer than 30 days to begin flower. i have grown both equatorial and sub-tropical varieties indoors a few times and it's usually closer to 2-3 months for the plants to actually begin forming clusters. pre-flowers and stretching will occur before this, sometimes much earlier. males can also flower much sooner than females. my swazi male was shedding pollen by around day 40, and the swazi females didn't begin their clusters until 80-85 days.

i'd say if a sativa goes to flower in only 30 days it's a pretty good bet it's been hybridized with something of a compact, quick-flowering nature, like most modern Dutch hybrids.

i think there may be some benefit to beginning sativas and pure sativas on a light schedule like 14/10 or 13/11 and gradually diminishing it over several weeks to 12/12 and then 11/13 and eventually 10/14. i think this may speed up the metabolism more than leaving the plant on 12/12 or 11/13 from the very beginning with no alteration. just speculation though.

 

[Guest]

Hi Muddy. 30 days was a rough figure, and a bit low really, 6 weeks is more like it for my Zamal/Haze by the Colombian Gold really does take 30-40 days to begin flowering, it looks done at 10-12 weeks but trichomes aren't showing 'pick me now!' until at least 14 weeks. I find a big variance in how long straisn take to start flowering after the switch to 12/12. I find some strains are more sensitive to the change in light schedule than others, although I deliberately used 24/0 for veg instead of 18/6 so that plants respong to the drop to 12/12 faster. I usually go 12/12 until 12 weeks then 10/14 till harvest. I find this helps stop them forming new calyxes and to help the existing calyxes swell. The Colombian Gold clones I have flowering now looked pretty muh done by eye at 11 weeks but it is only now at almost 13 weeks that the calyxes are swelling to their full size. I think I'll harvest these at 15 weeks. I'm gonna girdle one of them and leave it a week or two to slowly die, see if it does turn golden. I'm just basing mwhat I say on personal observation.