@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
Johnny sativas are not hard to grow or do you find them hard to grow ?.
Is Growing Nevil or shantis genetics the issue or is it something else mate.
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question for sam the skunkman on the original haze
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Johnny sativas are not hard to grow or do you find them hard to grow ?.
Is Growing Nevil or shantis genetics the issue or is it something else mate.
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
The guy that grows CBD pushing industrial hemp in a haze thread yep i would expect no less from you.
throw the boot in lol not at all im gentle with you as to your over sensitivity and what you call an attack tells me you live a very privileged/shelterd life lol,,i have zero respect for you rattling on about neville like a little fangirl i have zero respect for your hypocrisy on the other hand the plants ive seen you post shows you a better grower than me and your hempy bucket i think is genius i find it just as easy to call bs as giving respect were it due
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
Common on Donald 20 years of this bull shit whens it going to end i expect better from you mate.
I Grew NH because it was the strongest Haze on the Market its that simple.I read many growers that grew both OHaze and NH and all said NH was stronger.
Even if i had grow seeds made by Sam him self you n a few others would still find something to attack me for it seams to be part of your online personas maybe i just brussed your egos one to many times threw the years.
CannRed i expected better from you but i was wrong.
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
So let me get this straight you attack me for no reason other than to be an ass as i never posted a negative thing to you i then slap you down you then get your panty's in a not and i am now being over sensitive ?.
Kissing ass and acting like a bully is not how you gain respect in life.
Nevil was my friend and all i have tried to do is share information and knowledge passed down to me with others.The guy called Nevil like it or not worked with early Haze and produced some of the worlds best.
I have spent over 40 years in this hobbie and made many sacrifices and all i have tried to do is share the knowledge i gained with others.
How much of your time have you given the community harvestreaper and how many growers have you helped.
you got nothing straight at all you seem to be getting scripts from neibours,,having an opinion is an attack ? you off your nut mate ,,i was in amsterdam and london before neville got haze an nl an started selling his seeds i remember very well the impact those genetics and he made i was there i lived it playing the game i promoted his product for years from the begining woopdeedoo fantastic i remember the haze sam brought over an let out to varuis people i remember those plants coming down the line an changing the game forever were were you ??you have no idea what ive done or not done maybe i put money in your friends nevilles pocket one thing for sure i aint gonna whine about it like an old woman or look for a pat on the back off your ass speakig of which whos ass am i kissing or bullying you lost me there princess
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
I am not interested harvestreaper or am i the one attacking members or the dead.
Get a life.
yea go fourth an multiply
The fact is Neville's strain flooded Amsterdam and Holland for 30 years , Sam brought those first strains over and we thank him for that but it was not Sams strains i see , smoke , grow all over Holland for , it was Neville's strains and clones !
If Sams strains were that good why were they not in every coffeshop like Neville's was ? , and or kept around ?
Also on the real South Haze crew( not the new South crew), you ask them what is better , famous Nevil Haze cut or whatever you gave yosemite sam to smoke ? , i know as ive spoke to A5 the grower several times before.
I doubt that the new crew even have the real Nevil Haze cut and if they do they grow it very poorly and or taken exetemely early.
Ive not seen the real Nevil Haze for near 20 years apart from 1 time at the Highlife cup a few years back , a coffeshop from the South entered it and A5 the grower told me he gave them the cut years back.
The Nevil Haze ( supposed reputable cut) you see in Amsterdam is nothing like the famous cut and potency is knowhere near the Original cut.
Also the C5 they have is also a different cut from 20 years ago and not the famous cut Neville ( RIP) used to grow all over Amsterdam .
I understand this is Sams thread but its fact that Neville made and built Holland to what it is today.
The real facts are Sam wanted to keep it exclusive and Neville went to town and flooded things everywhere , he may have gone against sams word( and yes Neville was no saint) but he advanced our scene like knowone else.
I try not to post in these threads anymore as its a Neville bash job but i cant sit here and say nothing when you guys chat absolute breeze.
If Sams strains were that good why were they not in every coffeshop like Neville's was ? , and or kept around ?
Also on the real South Haze crew( not the new South crew), you ask them what is better , famous Nevil Haze cut or whatever you gave yosemite sam to smoke ? , i know as ive spoke to A5 the grower several times before.
I doubt that the new crew even have the real Nevil Haze cut and if they do they grow it very poorly and or taken exetemely early.
Ive not seen the real Nevil Haze for near 20 years apart from 1 time at the Highlife cup a few years back , a coffeshop from the South entered it and A5 the grower told me he gave them the cut years back.
The Nevil Haze ( supposed reputable cut) you see in Amsterdam is nothing like the famous cut and potency is knowhere near the Original cut.
Also the C5 they have is also a different cut from 20 years ago and not the famous cut Neville ( RIP) used to grow all over Amsterdam .
I understand this is Sams thread but its fact that Neville made and built Holland to what it is today.
The real facts are Sam wanted to keep it exclusive and Neville went to town and flooded things everywhere , he may have gone against sams word( and yes Neville was no saint) but he advanced our scene like knowone else.
I try not to post in these threads anymore as its a Neville bash job but i cant sit here and say nothing when you guys chat absolute breeze.
CannaT
starin' at the world through my rearview
You dont grow nothing just post pictures from XY persons not yours how can we know that your pictures of famous Nevile Haze cutting are not Hemp ???,2nd you are bot who year after year just copy paste other people qotes.
Your expirience is based on what ??
Internet talk with Nevile ???
It is like you yearking all the time on pornhub and consider yourself some fucker. It is the same.
You havent smoked any western world cuttings.
Not NL,Not OG kush,WW,not any of Neviles haze cuts that you are talking about.
No Nevile haze is haze hybrid which is stronger than Haze but I dont think so I think that is easier to find high thc in seeds called Nevile Haze than Pure Haze cuz it is being breed with NL5.
White Rhino is stronger than Nevile Haze 100% also old strain ICE or BLACK DOMINA old White widow indica pheno is strain that made most peopel white in coffe shop comapred to them why grow Nevile Haze ? Even good OG kush is stronger than Neville Haze....It not about pover in Haze it is about High that is not contaminted with BLD's cuz it is 3 way lumbo or Lumbo/thai/indian...
Why Nevile Haze is in most of coffe shops OJD in that time cuz people want Haze high but wit some commercial/sale
Cost-effectiveness Nevile Haze yild 3 times or more Better than OHaze.
OJD by your theory Amnesia core cut is better than Nevile Haze thats why it is sell all over Europe and every coffe shop have it on menu.
Why in USA is very rear to have any Haze/Haze dominant hybrid on menu ???
Is it OG kush better than Neville Haze.
Why dont you grow 200 O hazes and made your own haze with NL5 genetics.than pollenchuking other gentics.
For that same reason why you are not breeder other people used Neville Haze cuts instead of making their own.
Why dont you breed your own OG kush or plant with similar characteristcs like famous cutting.
You have to breed some shit to put Sam in your mouth insted of pollenchuking with other genetics.
You and DNA have the same gentics
your seeds collect dust their seeds winnig awards.
the same conditions different results mean it's just a matter of ability and inteligence.
Try to breed something if you consider your self a breeder and give us something like Haze or Skunk that will change the cannabis world like Sams genetic do.
In fact no one talk about Nevilles Haze phenos of 9 or 10 weeks.
Cut that have peoples Hart are mostly 90% dominant Haze characteristic so yes Haze made Neville Haze famous strain and NL5 just give commercial cost-effectiveness for growers and coffe shop owners.
You got Nevile Grails if they are that special plants that we canot find in example Sensi Jack Herer or NL5xhaze why dont you make stabil IBL or F2 and sell that golden holy grail to us ?? Instead of crossed it to Og kush ???
Lots of your logic is not based on logic.
Btw hempy it is only 1 room what I post pictures what is in others who knows. XD
You cant judge anything just with pictures.
Post us picture of Haze that you smoking right now as proud memeber of Team Haze.
Do not do to others,what you do not want others to do to you.
hey man ,
i am not really attacking you , i like a good debate though ,
and i dont agree with everyone , nor should i ,
things are much more interesting when we have a variety of opinion , its welcomed and part of being human and the diversity that comes with that ...
the high with cannabis is subjective , what i find potent , you may not and visa versa ,
yes i did find nh potent , but not a nice high , not something i enjoyed and its likely i would choose a pure sativa over it ,
because thats what i prefer ,
its not saying they are not as potent , they certainly are ,
just not in the same way ,
some folks like a bit of indica to ground them so to speak ,
some dont ..
comparing a hybrid with a pure sativa or indica is , excuse the clique , like comparing apples and oranges ..
they are not the same beast at all ...
i am sure you would have enjoyed the pure haze nevil had that he used in the nh , its what does the bulk of the work in that union im sure , except its clouded with some indica , so u cant expect the same clear high u might get from the haze alone ..
lastly , you are reading stuff and commenting , rather than experiencing them yourself and commenting , there is a difference there also given what i said about the high being subjective ..
i only try to point this out to you , not hassle you about it , you can read that in my words man , they are not harsh words , i speak with a gentle tone , dont take it as its an attack all the time, its certainly not , i am very chilled out , and generally an easy going person ...
sounds like opinion ,
which is not the same as fact ... ,
he doubts, he has heard ,
he surmises ..
yea , not much that would last a court challenge ..
its probably best he doesnt post in these threads with his "opinion" trying to sell it as fact or truth , it is neither ..
this is the guy that runs a comp with pic of the month ,
i won it and messaged that i would not want the prize and give it to some other person that is more needing than i ,
no reply from this guy , cant even run a decent comp ... wouldnt put much on what he says ...
which is not the same as fact ... ,
he doubts, he has heard ,
he surmises ..
yea , not much that would last a court challenge ..
its probably best he doesnt post in these threads with his "opinion" trying to sell it as fact or truth , it is neither ..
this is the guy that runs a comp with pic of the month ,
i won it and messaged that i would not want the prize and give it to some other person that is more needing than i ,
no reply from this guy , cant even run a decent comp ... wouldnt put much on what he says ...
always remember ,,truth is a double edged sword ,, it cuts both ways
the beauty of truth is that it can be proven ,it dont care what any of us want lol
"Potency" is overrated in my opinion.
I get people want strong herb but i personally prefer a good feeling high than a strong and often unpleasant high, so the "stronger" factor is meaningless to me.
I grow for some years now which is nothing compared to some of the oldschool masters but it bothers me when i read partial truths being put out as the only things that matter.
Ok, NH is said to be stronger than OH but if it means unpleasant vs happy, i know which i would put on the compost.
Second thing, seems the NH as it used to be, is nowhere to be found. The seeds offered by banks won't produce anything comparable to the real thing from pre 2000...so my question is, why do we even talk about it if it's a ghost plant? Does anyone here hold "the cut"? Willing to share maybe?
Third, speaking for myself only, but i feel the proper Haze(being Original Haze and TomHillHaze) seem to be floating around and are available, seem to be worked enough to produce a higher than stated percentage of good(not hay) plants, so i see it as a golden age of haze if you ask me.
Happy to be part of the many enthusiasts growing, making and sharing haze seeds, i only see an even brighter future for Haze and its hybrids.
Haze on
I get people want strong herb but i personally prefer a good feeling high than a strong and often unpleasant high, so the "stronger" factor is meaningless to me.
I grow for some years now which is nothing compared to some of the oldschool masters but it bothers me when i read partial truths being put out as the only things that matter.
Ok, NH is said to be stronger than OH but if it means unpleasant vs happy, i know which i would put on the compost.
Second thing, seems the NH as it used to be, is nowhere to be found. The seeds offered by banks won't produce anything comparable to the real thing from pre 2000...so my question is, why do we even talk about it if it's a ghost plant? Does anyone here hold "the cut"? Willing to share maybe?
Third, speaking for myself only, but i feel the proper Haze(being Original Haze and TomHillHaze) seem to be floating around and are available, seem to be worked enough to produce a higher than stated percentage of good(not hay) plants, so i see it as a golden age of haze if you ask me.
Happy to be part of the many enthusiasts growing, making and sharing haze seeds, i only see an even brighter future for Haze and its hybrids.
Haze on
You chat so much breeze i lost you when you said White Rino is stronger than Neville's Haze
you clearly dont know what your talking about( i dont normally use these icons but they are defo needed here LOL
This is what im talking about , what Nevil Haze have you smoked ?
Because i smoked all the famous dutch cuts and alot of the world famous elites and none beat the authentic Nevil Haze clone from south of Holland. We have 1 of the best white Rino cuts ever in my neighbourhood and has been for 20 years and yes its very potent but lol , nothing even close to Nevil Haze.
When i say Neville strains all over Holland i dont mean Nevil Haze strain , i mean all the hybrids , seed and everything near enough is from his work, indica, Sativa , hybrids including Amnesia Haze so yes Neville still dominates the scene
On the DNA Genetics thing no , they have far more access to clones etc and have a whole army working for them and im a 1 man company. They have had investors( trust me i know them) and alot of help to get where they are , plus they have great skills and marketing to make them what they are today.
Ive had chances for big investors but have declined every time.
In this industry you need to kiss alot of ass and im not 1 of those guys so will happily take the long route around and things are going great for me these days so check me out in a few years and then come back and see how im doing.
I dont want to really bring Sam into this , but lets be clear , he didn't make Haze ! , he collected seeds from Haze made in California and brought the seeds to Holland and sold them to Neville .
What did Sam make ? , or did he collect most of it ( and respect for that) but Neville made more than anyone and spread millions of seeds around the world advancing our scene like knowone else , yes Sam sold Neville a bunch of the strains used to make Neville's strains but Sam didn't make most of them at all and just did what i and any other seedmaker does , use someone else's strain to make a hybrid or F2,F3 etc etc.
Lets be brutally honest, Neville beat Sam to the races with seed production and that what the real argument was about
you clearly dont know what your talking about( i dont normally use these icons but they are defo needed here LOLThis is what im talking about , what Nevil Haze have you smoked ?
Because i smoked all the famous dutch cuts and alot of the world famous elites and none beat the authentic Nevil Haze clone from south of Holland. We have 1 of the best white Rino cuts ever in my neighbourhood and has been for 20 years and yes its very potent but lol , nothing even close to Nevil Haze.
When i say Neville strains all over Holland i dont mean Nevil Haze strain , i mean all the hybrids , seed and everything near enough is from his work, indica, Sativa , hybrids including Amnesia Haze so yes Neville still dominates the scene
On the DNA Genetics thing no , they have far more access to clones etc and have a whole army working for them and im a 1 man company. They have had investors( trust me i know them) and alot of help to get where they are , plus they have great skills and marketing to make them what they are today.
Ive had chances for big investors but have declined every time.
In this industry you need to kiss alot of ass and im not 1 of those guys so will happily take the long route around and things are going great for me these days so check me out in a few years and then come back and see how im doing.
I dont want to really bring Sam into this , but lets be clear , he didn't make Haze ! , he collected seeds from Haze made in California and brought the seeds to Holland and sold them to Neville .
What did Sam make ? , or did he collect most of it ( and respect for that) but Neville made more than anyone and spread millions of seeds around the world advancing our scene like knowone else , yes Sam sold Neville a bunch of the strains used to make Neville's strains but Sam didn't make most of them at all and just did what i and any other seedmaker does , use someone else's strain to make a hybrid or F2,F3 etc etc.
Lets be brutally honest, Neville beat Sam to the races with seed production and that what the real argument was about
JohnnyChicago
Well-known member
Much more things can go wrong during 6 month than during 3. Alone for this reason, long flowering sativas aren't easy to grow Hempy.
But OH is even less easy. Grow it and you will see what is meant...
No issue at all with Nevilles Haze genetics. If his genetics were still avaiable like in the 90s, I would probably not be a grower and still buying my weed in CS or from my friends
TheDarkStorm
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