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Purple Urkle Lineage?
- Thread starter Lester Beans
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"strain journal" what a brilliant idea, your a genius I CANNOT believe I have not started one yet. I would love to have a list like that.
@30years~ I woulda thought you, of all folks, woulda known where Urkle comes from...it's been in SoHum since at least the late 80's according to the cats closest to the source...reputed to be a Purple Pakistani/Skunk #1 hybrid. I didn't think the Bay had Urkle as early as '98...I don't think Ken even had his "GrandDaddy" that early...which he claims to have gotten out of Salmon Creek.
@TheRealHash~ Purple Indica, Purple Urkle, & Mendo Purple are all very different plants...PI & PU could share a very distant relationship but I see zero relation to PI with the MP. Purple Indica & Purple Urkle look like they could be Pakistani dom phenotypes whereas Mendo Purple looks more like an Afghani type.
And what's up with all the misinformation in this thread comparing &/or claiming Mendo Purple & Purple Urkle relations? Have any of these people ever even grown MP & PU? I feel bad for people just looking for legit information and having to wade through all the bull$#!t garbage just to get a tidbit of facts here and there...unfortunately, by the time you make it through all the nonsense who know's what really is the truth if you do find it.
Thanks man, I have grown the Mendo Purps and Original Purps a.k.a The Purps (both from Mendo and they came from the same hippy). I kept the Original and it really looks like a Pakistani by leaf shape. Thanks for clearing that up Nspecta and thank you to Oledad420 for laying down the truth(in the other purps lineage thread) https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=114612&page=3
TheRealHash~ I'm sorry but Oledad's info is bunk...his sources are full of shit...and I say this because anyone who has run Original cuts of Purple Urkle and Mendo Purple...not to mention S1 populations of both...should be able to tell there is zero relation between the two lines/cuts.
Oledad420 said:
Purps and Mendo Purps look a lot different but maybe the info is just a little tangled up. He did start out saying Purple Paki x Skunk. Then maybe got tangled up in the genetic lineage. Paki skunk sounds legit to me too.
Given that the dutch got 90% of what they built their lines on from California - that makes such a notion moot to begin with.
I can't believe that people don't realize that California is the cannabis mecca yet...wow.
dank.Frank
I can't believe that people don't realize that California is the cannabis mecca yet...wow.
dank.Frank
LOL!
If you can see a resemblance between a Purple Urkle and a Dutch Passion Purple #1, you've got to be blind.
For those who don't know what it looks like, here's a pic of a DP Purple #1:
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Thanks for all the replies! Well most of them haha
It seems there are several different story lines.
What we do know is this strain was around Cali in the 80's. It does not contain dutch genetics, sorry iv grown several strains and I know the difference between dutch pot and American pot.
I am just glad many folks seem to have her and enjoy her
Maybe more folks will chime in and shed some light or make it more of a mystery. Either way I can't wait
It seems there are several different story lines.
What we do know is this strain was around Cali in the 80's. It does not contain dutch genetics, sorry iv grown several strains and I know the difference between dutch pot and American pot.
I am just glad many folks seem to have her and enjoy her
Maybe more folks will chime in and shed some light or make it more of a mystery. Either way I can't wait
GrowHi -
It don't take genetic histories lightly or as something to be joked about - it's important that people know what things come from - from those that actually made the crosses or were around when they were made...
WHY?
Because, when you are a medical patient or trying to help someone gain relief from certain symptoms - it MATTERS to be able to narrow down the field of crosses to things that will be effective in their treatment...
You have information presented in the thread, that discusses the people who were THERE when it was made - they would know 100x better than you.
It's not "personal" - but some of us grow cannabis with a purpose and for a reason...
Urkle has been a long time staple (DECADES) for people looking for heavy medicine - and I know a lot of people that respect the cut and regard it very highly, and a few consider it as their very favorite purple. I respect these peoples opinions...
If you don't know that California genetics were smuggled in from all over the globe - STARTED the gene pools upon which Amsterdam and the modern seed banks were built - you need to spend time educating yourself about the history of things...it's that plain and simple. Just because a cut may only be 20 years old doesn't mean that some old timer wasn't working on it for 15 years prior, season after season after season in the hills.
Either build off the FACTS presented and LEARN - or continue in the same manner you have thus far and be labeled exactly as you are behaving...
No. I won't "lighten up". Sorry. But when you simply keep mashing a repeat button and vomiting on the screen - it's annoying and distracting - and it irritates those who are busy and take time out of their day to provide us with accurate genetic histories - and then the community as a whole loses out because you decided it was "cute" to get under peoples skin...
If you want to piss around and play grab ass - stay in the toker's den.
dank.Frank
It don't take genetic histories lightly or as something to be joked about - it's important that people know what things come from - from those that actually made the crosses or were around when they were made...
WHY?
Because, when you are a medical patient or trying to help someone gain relief from certain symptoms - it MATTERS to be able to narrow down the field of crosses to things that will be effective in their treatment...
You have information presented in the thread, that discusses the people who were THERE when it was made - they would know 100x better than you.
It's not "personal" - but some of us grow cannabis with a purpose and for a reason...
Urkle has been a long time staple (DECADES) for people looking for heavy medicine - and I know a lot of people that respect the cut and regard it very highly, and a few consider it as their very favorite purple. I respect these peoples opinions...
If you don't know that California genetics were smuggled in from all over the globe - STARTED the gene pools upon which Amsterdam and the modern seed banks were built - you need to spend time educating yourself about the history of things...it's that plain and simple. Just because a cut may only be 20 years old doesn't mean that some old timer wasn't working on it for 15 years prior, season after season after season in the hills.
Either build off the FACTS presented and LEARN - or continue in the same manner you have thus far and be labeled exactly as you are behaving...
No. I won't "lighten up". Sorry. But when you simply keep mashing a repeat button and vomiting on the screen - it's annoying and distracting - and it irritates those who are busy and take time out of their day to provide us with accurate genetic histories - and then the community as a whole loses out because you decided it was "cute" to get under peoples skin...
If you want to piss around and play grab ass - stay in the toker's den.
dank.Frank
as you said you have only seen pics....there is no comparison...the purple color is totally different...looks like the frisian dew... urkle looks nothing like DP...nothing at all...if you were down the block i would show you ....and you would be singing a different tune...the buds are rock hard not airy or have the sativa like leaves on the buds..she is a short squat plant that takes three times as long in veg...here is the description of your DP#1..and a pics of both....
Purple#1 is the world famous classic original purple variety that dates back to the early 1980’s and has been treasured for it’s uniquely beautiful purple colourings and great high. Used extensively by other seedbanks for breeding, Dutch Passion Seeds original Purple#1 plant is a 50/50 sativa/indica mix. The indica parentage comes from a very special purple Afghani which was carefully crossed in Holland with some top indica and sativa strains to create a strong outdoor plant that is fully adapted to the Dutch climate. Yields are a reasonable 250-350 grams per plant, the calyx’s turn purple quickly as flowering begins and the buds are complemented by sweet and sticky small purple leaves that grow amongst the resin soaked purple buds. Purple #1 is typically 1.5m-2.5m tall, it is for outdoors/greenhouse only and is an early finisher. The fan leaves are often sativa-like in appearance and show amazing purple colours. This variety has had it’s own dedicated fanbase for several decades and remains a popular and beautifully distinctive strain some 30 years after it was first released.
Purple#1 gives a sticky, fruity purple-streaked ganja that has a superb fast-hitting high. The high isn’t the longest lasting but this is more than compensated for by the quality of the experience. It is more of an ‘up’ high than a stone with a somewhat rough, yet subtle, aroma. A great choice for those seeking a fast-finishing tough outdoor variety that combines striking purple buds with a fresh and potent high.
In the mid-eighties, Purple #1 was one of the first purple outdoor strains commercially available as seed strain in the Netherlands. It is a balanced indica/sativa hybrid (50:50), bred from Purple Afghan and several sativa strains. In 1983, Henk van Dalen began to cross this Purple Afghan strain with the sativa genetics, therefrom developing the new variety Purple #1 which was released to the market in 1987. Purple #1 is a hardy outdoor variety with good mold resistance, being fully adapted to the Dutch outdoor climate. Its calyxes turn purple in most cases, starting this discolouration at the beginning of flowering. According to Dutch Passion, up to 90% of the plants turn purple. The colder the nights are, the darker the purple hue is, because this attractive colour is produced by a pigment called anthocyane which acts as a kind of antifreeze for the plant. Purple #1 is expected to have a rough, but subtle aroma and a very good high. This traditional Dutch Passion outdoor strain has filled many Dutch and other European gardens in the past.
In 2004, a German greenhouse grow with Purple #1 plants gave Dutch Passions Seeds an opportunity to experience actual Purple #1 plants in terms of growth, yield and high. This grow took place in a 20 m2 greenhouse owned by a guy called "Greenhouse Joe" and located in rural remoteness. At the end of June, he planted ten Purple #1 clones, pre-grown indoors for two weeks, directly into the greenhouse ground which had been prepared with growing soil and horn chips before. The clones had been grown form original Dutch Passion Purple #1 seed. By means of automatic darkening, Joe is in a position to do two greenhouse grows in one year. Before Purple #1, he had already successfully grown Euforia there from spring to early summer, using artificial darkening when the daily light period got longer than 12 hours. With many cloudy and rainy days, the German summer of 2004 was a great disappointment. Nevertheless, the Purple #1 plants gave a good performance in the vegetative state, and also flowering proceeded well, beginning from early August. The buds had turned violet very early, exhibiting a majestic purple look that got covered with lots of pretty sparkling crystals in the course of flowering. Partly also the stigmas turned purple.
The flower clusters looked quite broad, but taking a closer look revealed that their inner structure wasn't too dense - obviously due to the lack of sun light. At the end of September, the ripe plants were harvested by Greenhouse Joe. The average yield of his Purple #1 plants turned out to be 140 grams after all, which was satisfying to him with regard to the bad wheather and the shorter vegetative period. And despite temporarily high air humidity in the greenhouse, no Purple #1 plant got in trouble with mold. The taste of the dried buds was as purple-typical as expected, somewhat rough, but also spicy and unusual, a real natural outdoor taste. The turn was of decent potency, not knockdown, but very pleasant and refreshing, with some thriving sativa effects. Certainly a suitable day time smoke.
the DP has to run outdoors to get the purple...not urkle...just no comparison at all...the purples aren't even close....i guess if you tell yourself enuff you will believe it...sorry they aren't even close...and none of the gear you listed looks like the real urkle when gown out...the urkle just doesn't come through...oh well, its like beating a dead horse...are you messing with us for your entertainment......you are entitled to your opinion and i am just trying to educate you a lil...no harm intended here...party on euroguy...puffing one for ya ..cheers dj
Purple#1 is the world famous classic original purple variety that dates back to the early 1980’s and has been treasured for it’s uniquely beautiful purple colourings and great high. Used extensively by other seedbanks for breeding, Dutch Passion Seeds original Purple#1 plant is a 50/50 sativa/indica mix. The indica parentage comes from a very special purple Afghani which was carefully crossed in Holland with some top indica and sativa strains to create a strong outdoor plant that is fully adapted to the Dutch climate. Yields are a reasonable 250-350 grams per plant, the calyx’s turn purple quickly as flowering begins and the buds are complemented by sweet and sticky small purple leaves that grow amongst the resin soaked purple buds. Purple #1 is typically 1.5m-2.5m tall, it is for outdoors/greenhouse only and is an early finisher. The fan leaves are often sativa-like in appearance and show amazing purple colours. This variety has had it’s own dedicated fanbase for several decades and remains a popular and beautifully distinctive strain some 30 years after it was first released.
Purple#1 gives a sticky, fruity purple-streaked ganja that has a superb fast-hitting high. The high isn’t the longest lasting but this is more than compensated for by the quality of the experience. It is more of an ‘up’ high than a stone with a somewhat rough, yet subtle, aroma. A great choice for those seeking a fast-finishing tough outdoor variety that combines striking purple buds with a fresh and potent high.
In the mid-eighties, Purple #1 was one of the first purple outdoor strains commercially available as seed strain in the Netherlands. It is a balanced indica/sativa hybrid (50:50), bred from Purple Afghan and several sativa strains. In 1983, Henk van Dalen began to cross this Purple Afghan strain with the sativa genetics, therefrom developing the new variety Purple #1 which was released to the market in 1987. Purple #1 is a hardy outdoor variety with good mold resistance, being fully adapted to the Dutch outdoor climate. Its calyxes turn purple in most cases, starting this discolouration at the beginning of flowering. According to Dutch Passion, up to 90% of the plants turn purple. The colder the nights are, the darker the purple hue is, because this attractive colour is produced by a pigment called anthocyane which acts as a kind of antifreeze for the plant. Purple #1 is expected to have a rough, but subtle aroma and a very good high. This traditional Dutch Passion outdoor strain has filled many Dutch and other European gardens in the past.
In 2004, a German greenhouse grow with Purple #1 plants gave Dutch Passions Seeds an opportunity to experience actual Purple #1 plants in terms of growth, yield and high. This grow took place in a 20 m2 greenhouse owned by a guy called "Greenhouse Joe" and located in rural remoteness. At the end of June, he planted ten Purple #1 clones, pre-grown indoors for two weeks, directly into the greenhouse ground which had been prepared with growing soil and horn chips before. The clones had been grown form original Dutch Passion Purple #1 seed. By means of automatic darkening, Joe is in a position to do two greenhouse grows in one year. Before Purple #1, he had already successfully grown Euforia there from spring to early summer, using artificial darkening when the daily light period got longer than 12 hours. With many cloudy and rainy days, the German summer of 2004 was a great disappointment. Nevertheless, the Purple #1 plants gave a good performance in the vegetative state, and also flowering proceeded well, beginning from early August. The buds had turned violet very early, exhibiting a majestic purple look that got covered with lots of pretty sparkling crystals in the course of flowering. Partly also the stigmas turned purple.
The flower clusters looked quite broad, but taking a closer look revealed that their inner structure wasn't too dense - obviously due to the lack of sun light. At the end of September, the ripe plants were harvested by Greenhouse Joe. The average yield of his Purple #1 plants turned out to be 140 grams after all, which was satisfying to him with regard to the bad wheather and the shorter vegetative period. And despite temporarily high air humidity in the greenhouse, no Purple #1 plant got in trouble with mold. The taste of the dried buds was as purple-typical as expected, somewhat rough, but also spicy and unusual, a real natural outdoor taste. The turn was of decent potency, not knockdown, but very pleasant and refreshing, with some thriving sativa effects. Certainly a suitable day time smoke.
the DP has to run outdoors to get the purple...not urkle...just no comparison at all...the purples aren't even close....i guess if you tell yourself enuff you will believe it...sorry they aren't even close...and none of the gear you listed looks like the real urkle when gown out...the urkle just doesn't come through...oh well, its like beating a dead horse...are you messing with us for your entertainment......you are entitled to your opinion and i am just trying to educate you a lil...no harm intended here...party on euroguy...puffing one for ya ..cheers dj
its easy to spot urkle and her offspring by the long petiole stems.
growhi please stop posting in this thread. I value the information these nice folks took the time to post. You have not contributed anything of value to this thread. I don't want the thread to get closed because of your apparent need to troll the internet. Thanks in advance for your cooperation
DJXX, Choom, Frank and everyone ELSE, thanks!
The pics kick ass! I'll have 50 posts soon so I can show off my Urkle to. It def looked exactly the same as DJ's , and his description is spot on to what mine grew like.
A little background on my cut. It was given to me in 05 I believe and I was given about 10 of them, by a friend who lives in Cali. I'm east coast. He said they called it MILF weed and it was PU. Vegs like a dump truck with 6 flat tires, slooow. Def squat wide leaf shrub, large fan leaves turn purple on undersides in mid to late flower. The green of the plant looks a slightly different shade that most, a touch yellower side of green and lighter. I also notice this in the grape stomper. The slightly off color. Then she turns purple almost black. With enough veg the yield is a little below average, but rock solid buds. I like it at 8 weeks but have gone to twelve. Which resulted in sleepy time weed.
Damn good genetics, whatever she is!
DJXX, Choom, Frank and everyone ELSE, thanks!
The pics kick ass! I'll have 50 posts soon so I can show off my Urkle to. It def looked exactly the same as DJ's , and his description is spot on to what mine grew like.
A little background on my cut. It was given to me in 05 I believe and I was given about 10 of them, by a friend who lives in Cali. I'm east coast. He said they called it MILF weed and it was PU. Vegs like a dump truck with 6 flat tires, slooow. Def squat wide leaf shrub, large fan leaves turn purple on undersides in mid to late flower. The green of the plant looks a slightly different shade that most, a touch yellower side of green and lighter. I also notice this in the grape stomper. The slightly off color. Then she turns purple almost black. With enough veg the yield is a little below average, but rock solid buds. I like it at 8 weeks but have gone to twelve. Which resulted in sleepy time weed.
Damn good genetics, whatever she is!
choom
Member
@dank.frank: Insightful as always, I'll be able to
compare Urkle to subcool's Querkle in due time,
assuming it might be a neat thing for this thread.
I'm not a fan of anything else I've tried from him
(recalling my post in the TGA potency topic) but
Querkle is the most potent of his offerings IMO
though this cut is gnarly and passes on the flavor
to whatever it's crossed to consistently so far
that I've seen. She looks like a goddamn tangela
in bloom if shes topped a lot the way she likes,
wouldn't yield well otherwise with it's lanky branch
tops with hard fruity medium nugs. It's a unique
plant in my opinion in the way that I would think
it mutilation to top a specimen as much as Querkle
prefers to get an adequate yield, she's just weird...
Side by sides are always fun shows stay tuned Urkle
heads, I may show off Querkle in 18gallons ITT today
if I don't wait for the side by side program to come on!
choom(0:
compare Urkle to subcool's Querkle in due time,
assuming it might be a neat thing for this thread.
I'm not a fan of anything else I've tried from him
(recalling my post in the TGA potency topic) but
Querkle is the most potent of his offerings IMO
though this cut is gnarly and passes on the flavor
to whatever it's crossed to consistently so far
that I've seen. She looks like a goddamn tangela
in bloom if shes topped a lot the way she likes,
wouldn't yield well otherwise with it's lanky branch
tops with hard fruity medium nugs. It's a unique
plant in my opinion in the way that I would think
it mutilation to top a specimen as much as Querkle
prefers to get an adequate yield, she's just weird...
Side by sides are always fun shows stay tuned Urkle
heads, I may show off Querkle in 18gallons ITT today
if I don't wait for the side by side program to come on!
choom(0:
thanks DF...i needed a laugh...oh man...still cracking up...i am like you, i jus can't ignore it some times...jus wish sometimes you could "slap the crap out of them" on the net, in real time...DJ
choom
Member
Those leaves.. the way the veins are green
with a burgundy hue slowly spreading out..
just incredibly fucking gorgeous. Does she
show orange and red hues in the leaves
near the end? Some of the most beautiful
cannabis in my opinion besides the 20ft
creeper thai varieties of yore and abroad.
I understand how you feel DJ, though if
you think about it - try to understand
the mentality that makes those kinds
of like-minded individuals project like so
I'm sure he would explain it himself but,
I have a feeling he's still looking for pics.
choom(0:
with a burgundy hue slowly spreading out..
just incredibly fucking gorgeous. Does she
show orange and red hues in the leaves
near the end? Some of the most beautiful
cannabis in my opinion besides the 20ft
creeper thai varieties of yore and abroad.
I understand how you feel DJ, though if
you think about it - try to understand
the mentality that makes those kinds
of like-minded individuals project like so
I'm sure he would explain it himself but,
I have a feeling he's still looking for pics.
choom(0:
