Promix-Your Opinion as a Medium

[DrFever]

IMO pro mix is one of the best base mediums on the market it can be used on its own with control of the grower allowing how much nutrients to feed
It can be used with compost to start early veg with great results
Also i like to add i find less gnat issues / insect issues then other products out there
like most soil companies there is a wide range of products from alkaline . acidic soils
it holds and drains water really good
And for the life of me i just do not understand why people go by run off water when growing in there so called organic soil it takes a while for micro's and plants to break down the compost to be available for the plant only for the user to leach away the goods every watering ???
I guess that is why many organic grown rooms tend to show deficiencies and tea brewing has become a fad
in all honesty if organic soil is working properly then there should be no teas used only for a treat in Flowering where organics tend to fail or stack up to chelated nutrients

Pro mix and i love it

 

[FunkBomb]

I've never had a bad experience with Pro-mix. As a base there is nothing betting. Add some compost or other organic amendments and that's all you will need.

-Funk

 

[Jonny Lan]

I grow using all organic teas and the bunch and Ive been using pro-mix for the past 3 years. It's absolutely amazing stuff, both the bx and the hp but i prefer the HP (more perlite). Its affordable where I'm at ($35.99 a bail) and usually use one bail to yield me almost 4 pounds every 9 months in my 3x3 tent (4 harvests)
ALSO KEEP IN MIND - THE BX CONTAINS A WETTING AGENT.

I have just made the switch for my first grow in 6 months to Bio Terra Plus soil. I am loving the results way more than pro-mix but at the price of this stuff compared to Pro-Mix, I am going to have to wait until harvest to see if its worth the switch. this new stuff will only last one grow in my 3x3 tent and at $40.00 a bag, a year of this soil will cost $200.00. compared to the 80.00 a year price of pro-mix.

 

[Team Microbe]

Better than high cec top soil? Better than natures method? I am not so sure.

Well no, but I said that assuming you'd use it to build that high CEC top soil - I should've specified more clearly. Nothing can beat natural loam, but that's more of an outdoor growing medium. I don't believe in bringing outdoors in, so from an indoor perspective yes - peat is the best medium to build soil with. Hands down.

 

[Team Microbe]

There's nothing organic about that study at all.

Nope, there sure isn't. But that still doesn't deny the facts about peat moss that play a big role in the reasons why growers choose to use it in the garden...

 

[Team Microbe]

I have just made the switch for my first grow in 6 months to Bio Terra Plus soil. I am loving the results way more than pro-mix but at the price of this stuff compared to Pro-Mix, I am going to have to wait until harvest to see if its worth the switch. this new stuff will only last one grow in my 3x3 tent and at $40.00 a bag, a year of this soil will cost $200.00. compared to the 80.00 a year price of pro-mix.

Nice man, you can cut your input costs even further if you buy straight peat moss bales are your local hardware store (Lowes, Home Depot). Buy the perlite (or even better yet pumice or lava rock since they harbor microbes) and mix it up along with good compost in equal parts 1:1:1

I get em for under $10 for a 3.8 cubic foot bale (28 gal)

 

[Mikell]

Nope, there sure isn't. But that still doesn't deny the facts about peat moss that play a big role in the reasons why growers choose to use it in the garden...

Right. As I mentioned. Read it again. Slowly. You clearly missed the obvious flaws in methodology and appear confused as to the intent. If you're holding it up as an example of the CEC qualities of peat compared to other mediums, it wouldn't take much effort to find an actual study with that goal.

FYI, it's easy to multiquote in one post with copy and paste.

 

[Team Microbe]

Don't talk to me like an illiterate, I've already read the study. I'm not just speaking about CEC, I just emphasized on it in the first few posts because we were talking about soil.

Care to reveal their flaws for me?

 

[DrFever]

lol varry slooooooly very slowly lmao

 

[OregonKushFarm]

I have used promix for about 5 years and its the only medium i recommend to any new growers. That along with advanced nutrients entire line up, people here in Portland are pulling up to 7 pounds under 4k watts in six 35 gallon pots with that combo. I personally get around 6 pounds under my 4k watt setup using 16 of the 35 gal pots. The dudes doing it in six pots are fucking ninjas.

 

[Mikell]

Don't talk to me like an illiterate, I've already read the study. I'm not just speaking about CEC, I just emphasized on it in the first few posts because we were talking about soil.

Care to reveal their flaws for me?

Then don't act like one?

The particulars have all been pointed out to you before, here and elsewhere. At this point one has to assume you either initially skimmed over too quickly and have not gone back for a more thorough reading, or simply have limited comprehension. If you're going to post studies to back up your opinion, you'd better be able to understand them.

Look at the nutrient make up, feeding methodology, substrate EC, etc. How many plants were burned by salty coir?

Don't expect others to hold your hand, I'm not even sure why I am. I blame this warm glow a few beers brings on. Hell, I'm even trying not to be a dick, and that's my favourite thing to do.

 

[EclipseFour20]

Sooooo many paths to the same destination; "You like potato and I like potahto. You like tomato and I like tomahto...."

That said, I tried and do not use coir--my preference is peat. I found the extra "work" to make coir "usable" was not worth it's lower price; my time/labor is not "free".

 

[hup234]

Sooooo many paths to the same destination; "You like potato and I like potahto. You like tomato and I like tomahto...."
I say tomuchbho

 

[Jonnysact]

Not to hijack the thread here, but since there is a ton of attention in this thread from Pro Mix users, would you mind please sharing your water PH for your Pro Mix medium?

 

[UsualSuspect]

Not to hijack the thread here, but since there is a ton of attention in this thread from Pro Mix users, would you mind please sharing your water PH for your Pro Mix medium?

RO water to start and after adding nutes PH of 5.8-6.2 seems to work best for my set up. On the higher end during veg and lower end for flower. Just my 2 cents.

 

[ogatec2]

i went from a sucessful hydro grower to promix cause my friends were using it with good sucess and it looked easier than what i was doing. everyone was using promix hp but i used bx casue i didnt want to water as much..as time went on i noticed my plants were not doing as well and my yields were eventually 1/2 of what they were in hydro. just plain slow growth with lots of leaf dropping.

I decided fuckit im headed back to hydro and everyhting went back to normal. my last grow with promix the growshop was out of BX so i said fuckit and did a round of HP. first thing i noticed was that it really didnt seem to dry out much faster than the BX but seemed to drain nicley. well the plants took off with immediate hydro like growth and i am on track for this to be one of my best rounds! perfect looking plants...

USE PROMIX HP FOLKS!!!! NOT BX, or add more pearlite to the BX!

 

[Team Microbe]

What's pH?

I water my 1 pt promix 1 pt rice hull 1 pt compost mix with RO water that comes in at 9.0 (4 ppm) and my plants look like they don't really mind it too much...




Ogatec2 -

You may have carried that hydro mindset into soil which would almost be like trying to run in a swimming pool rather than swim. You were used to running on the track, and the two different environments demand 2 completely different modes of action. You were still attempting to feed the plant, instead of feeding the soil (which naturally will feed the plant like we see in nature) so your plants most likely starved due to the lack of life in your pots. Just my 2 cents.

 

[G.O. Joe]

Hard alkaline tap water every time won't do bad things in promix, and you get Ca and Mg. Add limestone especially with RO water and hydro nutes and you won't have to think about pH at all. More limestone and perlite than what's already in the mix. Then, tire of both the RO system and mixing bales with a little lime.

 

[jav2043]

Hard alkaline tap water every time won't do bad things in promix, and you get Ca and Mg. Add limestone especially with RO water and hydro nutes and you won't have to think about pH at all. More limestone and perlite than what's already in the mix. Then, tire of both the RO system and mixing bales with a little lime.

How much limestone are you adding to your promix? I ran first promix Bx as is but didn't like drainage so added perlite on next run. I'm using RO water and noticed I could use more limestone.

 

[EclipseFour20]

Get a pH test kit...real cheap and quite effective. What works for one person may or may not be "perfect" for you.