Project EDEN - the COCO-COOP

[bonecarver_OG]

Low Stress Training.

means normally to tie down tips or branches etc of plants to increase harvest quality and to keep plants low.

specially with fluoros its a must - to get maximum light penetracion. i use it usually for my moms and bigger plants. but i also aply some techniques that do stress the plant also.

like FIM - cut of tips to get more branching - for example in those indica columnar phenos.

peace

 

[bonecarver_OG]

im amazed none of the clones ended up dying in the end!

a few pics.. from the flowering area..

plants from seed




astrofog bushes in corner - in the middle some mozambiquens and alibi, SG etc




the SSH x PTK bush

 

[Guest]

gettin bushy mate

 

[Ono Nadagin]

ahh ok ty BC,I have done that a few years back for a scrog grow... I just called it training

 

[-VT-]

That PTK cross is looking good....lol you have smooth grows man....I'm still making mistakes in this coco....you got it down bro...props....all those strains and moving along nice and smooth like that? Your shit is dialed in

Gonna have to start checking out more of Raco's stuff....glad you turned us on to the PTK cross....

peace

 

[bonecarver_OG]

24-7 redeye - yeah they are growing on nicelly

ono - yeah its the same

VT - thanx - but i wish things was that easy - the truth is some strains are more demanding than others - but im trying to find a middle nute level for all of them - cant go around making 18 different mixes

PTK is excellent material for crosses.. the SSH x PTK was done by Cloneman - But racos sure does have a nice selection of tom hill genetics im really excited with all these yummy looking plants

peace

 

[bonecarver_OG]

the rip off - mylar has to go - i think im loosing more than im gaining with it - i really wonder if it reflects as much as it lets thru

in a few days when i start taking away males etc - and i get some space - i will try to take down the fake mylar thats on the white walls - seems idiotic now to have it up there at least. hehe the rest - the curtains - i will leave for now - because if not there is too much light coming out of that room when i have the door open.

actually going to try fix that ASAP.

loosing light is badly spent money...

peace

 

[Guest]

looking sweet mate . have you checked the reflective properties of the mylar with a light meter . one off our local growshop hires out (its really free, just need to leave a deposit if your a new customer) a light meter to check lamp performance / light levels in the grow.
might be worth checking the fake stuff before you tear it off the walls !
peace

 

[bonecarver_OG]

mate - its see thru - like wearing a pair of mirror sunglasses. i dont know what this stuff is for - i bet its not ment for this. could be this stuff they put on car windows etc

i took down one wall - the one the light is pointing at - at this moment its really all i can do easilly

i have found 2 more growshops in my area

i hope to learn to know some serious ppl instead of the ones im used to

peace

 

[Raco]

The pic promised She is a Cannabiogen's Sandstorm, flowered in coco coir (+ 30% perlite, 15% hidroton) (e&B) under a 55w CFL (two 55w CFLs for two plants). I planed these ladys will be moms, but finally i put them to flower. LST was made already flowering.






I just harvested the upper canopy, the lower come back to the flowering chamber for a week more. The pic was done looking directly to the light, but note its almost impossible to see the CFL into the reflector.

Knna,
Very very nice!!
Sandstorm and Sugarloaf are two excellent Chitral hybrids :smile:

 

[nandro]

Absolutely Raco, two very good ones.

Nice success rate on those clones, bro!!

Blessings,
Nandro

 

[bonecarver_OG]

the infestacion of gnats seems more worrying now. i keep finding shells of emtpy larvae - maybe its what they leave behind when they change to the adult state. any how not nice. im going to spray down all pot tops with bacillus thurgensis maybe tomorow night. i dont think i will find some product i could use directly in the nute water.

the battle continues.

i found the trichoderma expensive - the pack i bought was only enough for 15 liters of water. need to get a ton of it to get enough to water a few times...

also i will make a kind of sticky traps out of yellow acrylic i got and a latex glue that doesnt dry in a long time. hope it works well. i used it before with oil - to trap white flies. very effective - lets see if it also traps the adults of the fungus gnats.

im starting to take it seriously hehe

atleast i dont have spidermites hehe

peace

 

[bonecarver_OG]

hello raco and nandro

yeah the sandstorm of knna looks very tasty indeed!

peace

 

[bonecarver_OG]

ok thricoderma: i used what was suposedly enough for about 1500 plants lol hope to see some drastic changes then i used 3 x 4grams in 10 liters of the water i used for watering.

peace

 

[Guest]

ahh , i read you say it was like sunglasses . maybe it only lets through certain bandwidths of light ? but still reflects the usefull (to the plant ) rays. just hate to think you d wasted bucks mate .
this place has benefitial predators for gnats , www.just-green.com (mail order) , also read earth growers place a layer off sand or diamateous on the surface of each pot which stops the adult gnats emerging from the surface, not sure if suitable with coco though , test on 1 pot?
peace amigo

 

[bonecarver_OG]

well got to start with concluding the 36 hours of darkness really did kick-start the flowering - but only in the more mature ones - the smaler ones seem to need a bit more time. its cool. as usual its easier to spot the females quicker..

i have seen female preflowers in the mozambiqueans but im not really checking the plants out too much yet - ill give it untill the weekend.

peace

 

[bonecarver_OG]

dont feel like carrying in lots of sand in to the flat but its something to consider for the future - for example my greenhouse etc.

any rays emitted by the HPS are good for the plants - so if this film for example just reflects part of it back im loosing bucks. and also light for my plants i dont feel good about it and im going to put up the real thing.

or even buy just the normal black/white plastic i used before, but i prefeer mylar - i wanted to use it in this grow to try to get max eficiancy out of the light

peace mate

 

[gaiusmarius]

the thing about sand is that it gets rinsed into the coco after a while, unless you are watering with a dripper spike where the water always goes in one place only. but it helps, same with the sticky traps.

i have noticed that my gnat numbers are well reduced, it's been 2 days now with a strong dose of BTi product in the tank water being given 5 times a day. i still want to spread some sticky traps to help with the adults, as well as looking into an electrical insecticide. it seems that the best way, is to attack from all sides. i.e. BTi product, sticky traps and nematodes if possible, maybe even spray the plants with some pyrethrum, this should catch a lot of the adults in one go.

a simple method someone posted up, which i don't know how effective it is, is to use a clove or two of garlic, cut in half on top of your medium, remove when watering. i have no idea if gnats are in the vampire family, lol.

anyway bonecarver, good huntings bro, don't let any of them bugs sneak up behind you man.

 

[bonecarver_OG]

thx mate

the vegetable thing is to atrackt the larvae - and then u can remove them with the vegetable - sounds like it should work..

i got enough of bacteria thurgensis var. kurstaki to mist a few hundred m2 so it should be enough - what im wondering if the the product i have - water soluble bacteria in powder form - could also be applied in the watering.. it should be more effective.. and from as far as i can tell the product doesnt contain anything that could be harmfull in the watering...

just want to kill the bugs not the plants hehe

the growing tips are looking so healthy i cant really get too worried :

but its gonna be fun trying to bring the number down as quick as possible.

i do have the electric insecticide on for about 6 hours at one go - but these plants are far from budding

peace

 

[EddieShoestring]

good thread BCOG-and interesting strains you're growing.

I've been doing the extended dark period thing, when switching to 12/12, for a while now-even taken it to 48h darkness as an experiment-and am convinced that it does have an effect but not THAT much. It certainly doesn't take much, if anything, off of the flowering time-but doesn't seem to do them any harm either.

watching your battle with gnats with interest as i've noticed one or two in my growroom-
good luck
eddie