Project EDEN - the COCO-COOP

[gaiusmarius]

good work bonecarver,

it's always a relief when you get the new batch of plants planted. i have to do the same thing. first i need to clean up all the old leaves between the slabs on the table, then i have to test run my drippers replacing any that might be slowing down or blocked. then i just place the new cubes on the holes in the coco slabs and nail them to the slab with the dripper spike lol, shouldn't take me more then 2 hours, oh yeah, then i have to clean my tank out before i refill it with fresh nutes and rhizo. just in case you wanted to know, lol.

 

[bonecarver_OG]

hehe im lucky this will be more or less the only indoor batch of this spring... hehe try to get the best out of it before the heat comes on to do this many times a year would make me to a nervous wreck - i only got time because im suposedly recovering from surgery and im of work 2 more weeks

 

[bonecarver_OG]

ok a very long day is finished - its 3.11 in the morning and i just finished transplanting.. at least for the moment - im getting pretty sure i will have to transplant some of the SSH x PTK clones to 12 liter pots later on in flowering.. lets see how i solve it.

i decided to keep the uzb/N.ind x Banghi/nep since i think i saw some female pistils in it..

left to put on my mates balcony is the mozambiqueans.. wich by the way look and grow very nicelly indeed. i think i will put them outside right now for flowering - never mind the night temps - end of flowering it will already be warmer lets hope there is a nice female in the 4 of them.. they will get transplanted to a 40 liter pot in soil but with some nutes etc added at times - i dont want to complicate it for my friend too much

also i pretty much flipped to flowering im going to try to quick start it using a 24 hour darkness period. - i like trying new things so why not one thing is sure - its for sure should start the production of flowering hormones. some ppl use even 48 hours of darkness.. !

finally can say many of the clones that this mid day looked so fatally dead - are now more or less looking like they will go for it. i know they used a lot of their energy now to try to rise their leaves upwards to the light. tomorow i will tell for sure how many i throw. remember i started with 54 aiming to have much more than the 31 needed for my friends, just to be safe

no pics today been to busy this evening

peace all

 

[bonecarver_OG]

alright,
later i will do a re-count of the clones

i did a quick check and it seems like atleast 30+ look like they are going to make it.


peace

 

[gaiusmarius]

good news about the clones bonecarver, you had me worried for a minute lol. i hope you can find something to take care of the gnats and their thrice damned offspring in the recycled coco.

peace
gm

 

[bonecarver_OG]

got Kill'paff electrical insecticide against mosquitos and also some bacc. thurgensis

monday i will get trichoderma and more rhizotonic

 

[gaiusmarius]

cool, let me know how the killpaff stuff works, the bac thurengis i is pretty good at weakening them off and reducing the numbers, hopefuly the kill paff will do the rest.

 

[bonecarver_OG]

it was cheap - like 7 euro for a double pac one i put with the insecticide in the growroom - but i guess should switch of went for max efficiancy.

the other i got with apple smell in the entrance of the house smells great no weed smell or such - now.. dont kno later in flowering though...

might put both of them in the growroom

i sure will keep posting about the progress

peace!

 

[bonecarver_OG]

now i switched of the extraction - the room is closed off but got a circulating vent moving the air around.

the light is still switched off. im trying to decide on the flowering time cycle etc - to fit it the best with work etc. i think i might go for having the light switched on during the night as i usually do. thats the only way i have time to work with them. the room is blacked out anyway.

im getting nervous.. wanna do something with my plants

peace

 

[bonecarver_OG]

i did a check up on the clones - they look all ok - besides the first blunder. 2 are a bit less vital than the rest. so im still with 52 clones left in quite good shape..

peace

 

[nandro]

Excellent, my man. Keep it up.

Peace,
Nandro

 

[bonecarver_OG]

hehe - i nearly killed em - hehe but i got them back to life

 

[gaiusmarius]

make up your mind bonecarver, lol. firt you say the clones are in excellent shape again, then the next post you nearly killed them rofl. just joking, i know how it can be. what did you do to them? LOL hope they survive

 

[bonecarver_OG]

well - to make it short - first of i thought they all looked pretty much dead - it took about 24 hours to revitalize them - now they are all fine besides 2 that are a bit less vital - but still i did nearly kill em

reason: overheating due to lack of humidity aka stress. forgot to mist before went to sleep..

u get it ? i write so much i bet it gets confusing to try to follow hehe


peace

 

[bonecarver_OG]

ive been reading up on the forced flowering. the 36 hours of darkness before flowering should cut about a week of the 12/12 schedule. the reason is the long darkness period complettelly resets the plants internal clock and sets it in flowering mode.

the reason it works - is because of the need of lack of light, to build up the flowering signals. normally it takes about a week or two for the plants to build up the amount of the signal necesary to start flowering.

also i have read about giving the plants 36 hours of complete darkness before harvest.. hm - thats not possible in this grow - if i dont put it inside my ear.

got the darn flat full to the brim.

cant wait to pick out un-wanted males

but i think these 36 hours of not tending to the plants are going to get very long..


well atleast i havetime to think..

i realized right now - i forgot to take the future moms of SSH x PTK and Astrofog out of the flowering room... hehe guess i will have to reveg them now i will have to switch on the reveg chamber

hehe just more work . lol

peace

 

[bonecarver_OG]

well this is what i got going right now - its more than i can handle comfortably - thats for sure

plants transplanted:

super-G - - 10
cascadia - - 18
x-18 x DC - - 5
PTK - 2
special mix original - 1

dc x dc - 1
lovepotion - 6
alibi f3 5T - 3
LDS - 7
budlr bls x dst - 1

johny deep - 3
cheese x trainwreck - 2
lui - 1
mentalfloss - 2
bogglegum - 3

ROX - 1
uzb/nind x bangi/nep - 1
mozambique - 4

clones
ssh x ptk - 23? + a few
kali - 20 + a couple

moms in flowering
ssh x ptk - 1
astrofog - 3

and rooting:

54 clones of SSH x PTK

i cant realy say im 100 % on the numbers of plants of the astrofog and the ssh x ptk it could be more.. and it doesnt matter

peace

 

[bonecarver_OG]

ok its almost 6 in the morning l did the last misting for tonight.. my gf will take over in about 4 hours

these clones will HAVE to make it. i wont feel ok untill i see some ROOTS..

 

[Guest]

Well man, yours is a nasty job, only in a good way lol!
I´m really impressed that one man can keep all those ladies happy lol;=)

 

[gaiusmarius]

Hey boncarver, the 36 hours of darkness to start flowering, is a two sided sword. if it speeds up the beginning, that means it shortens the stretch, so it means there will be less plant material for the flowers to grow on. so unless time is a factor, lets say you were in a hurry to harvest, then, if it works, it might be worth it.

the thing is the way i understand the flowering machanism in the plant is; that the flowering hormon,(which han't been discovered yet) acumulates in the plant as of 12 hours of darkness, so as long as the daily light period is no longer then 12 hours, then that flowering hormon will continue to accumulate during each 12 hour dark period, till there is enough present to triger the change to flowering mode.

to me it seems best to take advantage of the 2 weeks of stretch by flowering the plants early enough that the stretch makes them finish at the desired hight.

mind you it would be interesting to see how it goes in an experiment.

 

[bonecarver_OG]

holy - hehehe me and my harem "sheick el bonecarver"

Gaius - since this run is to pick out the best of the genetics of the 60 seedlings i have - the most important is to find those interesting phenos - i will with the huge amount of plants in flowering im sure there will be plenty to smoke anyway afterall i have my 40+ clones of my faves in flowering to rely on atleast.

i prefeer to write flowering hormones instead of complicating it un-necesarily but here it goes:

"The leaves of a plant are the only part that can carry the flowering signal. The mechanism that causes this signal is an interesting process. Plants contain very specific color pigments, two of which are called phytochrome (red) Pr, and Phytochrom (far red) Pfr. Pr absorbs light at 660 NM. Pfr absorbs light at 730 NM.

A long, dark period allows the Pfr to dissipate and causes hormonal change that makes the plant flower. For production purposes, give the plant a good start by diminishing the Pfr; induced flowering is started with 36 hours of darkness before the first 12 hours of light and 12 hours of dark."

its a signal more than a hormone that is clear what i want is to get the flowering to start ASAP to take out the males etc - and unwanted phenos - and stay with the best of 18 strains and 130 seedlings im half way thru the selection process as i stated before - i plan only to keep max a handfull of these. if they are good enough compared to our SSH x PTK

all plants from seed have had one month + 2 weeks minimum of veg they are big enough id say - they are too big :

anything i can do to keep size down is necesary

i doubt the 36hour darkness period will take away all stretch still - lets see - its interesting - since i have grown out two of the strains before in different conditions i think its interesting to see how it works

normally i end up with my plants touching the roof - i hope they will keep lower

peace