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Kygiacomo!!!
AppAlachiAn OutLaW
just use some insect frass and aloe as soil drenchs and it will help alot for resistance to mold. i was reading a thing about stawberry tests and the plots that had been treated in the feild with chitosan was over 60% less infected with botrytis cinerna aka bud rot. plus frass is all organic and gives u millons of extra little soliders to help fight. actinovate spray is another good one that will help and u can also drench it for extra growth. im a big believer in keeping the SAR on the plant induced after i have seen what its done for me this year.
Thanks for the info Kyg! I'm sure I could get an edge using amendments and sprays, but it comes down to strain, site and weather. We got hit with a lot of rain recently. We had 2 days of long periods of light rain 2 weeks ago. Last weekend we got rain Friday morning and then a double dose of thunderstorms Saturday morning with driving winds. Every morning dew sets and it wets all surfaces. Many strains would begin to mold after these rains. Disease triangle, if there is a pathogen present, susceptible host, and conducive environment, there will be disease.
Great weather for next 10 days, going to let the rest go as long as possible. Got about a year's supply already I think!
Great weather for next 10 days, going to let the rest go as long as possible. Got about a year's supply already I think!
Kygiacomo!!!
AppAlachiAn OutLaW
ya that is a breeding ground for that fkn spore. we also got some great weather coming up for the next 7 days. i got quite a few left out to ripen as well. the Delas are on the last stage of ripening right now and will sweel the most in these next 2 weeks. sweet all the rest is just a bonus then
I assumed you were having a particularly wet year. You've done well considering how much worse it could be. Especially if you'd let the mold spread for a few more days. We know how fast that stuff can spread.
I always hedge my bets with local mold resistant strains. That way I can do breeding experiments with new varieties I want to try but don't have to worry if it finishes late and has no resistance to disease. I seem to do better than a lot of people in my area that get destroyed by mold and mildew. Usually they are growing either Dutch seeds or indoor type clones.
Where I live it's 50/50 in September. Some years it's cool and wet, other years dry and warm. Every year a wind and rain storm blows through and knocks plants over and breaks branches.
It's been colder and wetter than normal. I finally broke down and bought some Greencure. I'll let you know how it goes. It's organic, the active ingredient is potassium bicarbonate which is a common additive in food. FDA says it's safe. Supposedly odorless and flavorless except for some saltiness. I assume it will dissolve and wash off with the first rain.
I always hedge my bets with local mold resistant strains. That way I can do breeding experiments with new varieties I want to try but don't have to worry if it finishes late and has no resistance to disease. I seem to do better than a lot of people in my area that get destroyed by mold and mildew. Usually they are growing either Dutch seeds or indoor type clones.
Where I live it's 50/50 in September. Some years it's cool and wet, other years dry and warm. Every year a wind and rain storm blows through and knocks plants over and breaks branches.
It's been colder and wetter than normal. I finally broke down and bought some Greencure. I'll let you know how it goes. It's organic, the active ingredient is potassium bicarbonate which is a common additive in food. FDA says it's safe. Supposedly odorless and flavorless except for some saltiness. I assume it will dissolve and wash off with the first rain.
Hoping I got all the mold out. Spent some time checking over them. I'm sure I will find a little next trip, but with the dry conditions, probably won't be too bad.
Hey reverend! Thats how you do it, breed with a mold resistant strain, and go from there. Noticed some plants just get it bad. Others really don't at all. There are different types of mold/rot too. Some plants have weak stems and bend down like spaghetti, but other plants have more upright flowers. Shade has a lot to do with that too.
I guess that is pretty usual for a storm to come through at one point or another. Just have to be as prepared as you can. Need to make sure the soil is piled up high on the stems...
Can you smoke greencure? Do you want to? Thanks for stopping in! I'll get some hash shots up soon. Been burping jars like I'm supposed to...
Hey reverend! Thats how you do it, breed with a mold resistant strain, and go from there. Noticed some plants just get it bad. Others really don't at all. There are different types of mold/rot too. Some plants have weak stems and bend down like spaghetti, but other plants have more upright flowers. Shade has a lot to do with that too.
I guess that is pretty usual for a storm to come through at one point or another. Just have to be as prepared as you can. Need to make sure the soil is piled up high on the stems...
Can you smoke greencure? Do you want to? Thanks for stopping in! I'll get some hash shots up soon. Been burping jars like I'm supposed to...
That is the question, you will smoke whatever you put on your plants. More invasive then even eating something. Potassium bicarbonate is not carcinogenic. If it's like sodium bicarbonate it's water soluble and will dissolve and break down after it rains. As far as I can tell it is the safest fungicide you can use. Farmers spray it all over the vegetables we eat including organic vegetables.
I take sodium bicarbonate a lot for heartburn. It is also an additive in a lot of foods and medicines. I can't imagine switching potassium for sodium would make it dangerous. Potassium is in a lot of the foods we eat.
Glad to see you making hashish. Can't wait to get my trimming done so I can make a few batches of sift.
I take sodium bicarbonate a lot for heartburn. It is also an additive in a lot of foods and medicines. I can't imagine switching potassium for sodium would make it dangerous. Potassium is in a lot of the foods we eat.
Glad to see you making hashish. Can't wait to get my trimming done so I can make a few batches of sift.
Good morning! Cool, thanks for the info. Is whats in tums ant-acid medicine I guess? This most recent batch of hash is better than previous. Couldn't finish the pipe last night. Ok, I couldn't hardly start it either. One or 2 good draws on that resin, and you ought to wait for a couple minutes...
Tums is calcium carbonate, good for bones and probably good for plants. I have end stage kidney failure so I've had to learn a lot about Tums and sodium bicarbonate. I had to take Tums with every meal as a phosphate binder, it locks up the phosphate in your food and removes it. With kidney disease too much phosphate can be toxic. I've switched to a different binder, the taste of Tums makes me gag now.
When I do dialysis they add sodium bicarbonate to the solution they pump into my blood. So I've talked to the doctor about it, it's basically salt. So is potassium bicarbonate. Like phosphate, while doing hemodialysis too much potassium can be dangerous.
Hard to finish a bowl of hashish especially if you haven't been smoking a lot. But it's so tasty it's easy to smoke too much.
I made a screen for dry sifting, figured out if I put dry ice mixed in with the trim it made the process work a lot better. The colder the better for hash making. The crystals shatter off the plant matter instead of smearing into the screen and leaf. Same works for water extraction, I'd always use lots of ice.
When I do dialysis they add sodium bicarbonate to the solution they pump into my blood. So I've talked to the doctor about it, it's basically salt. So is potassium bicarbonate. Like phosphate, while doing hemodialysis too much potassium can be dangerous.
Hard to finish a bowl of hashish especially if you haven't been smoking a lot. But it's so tasty it's easy to smoke too much.
I made a screen for dry sifting, figured out if I put dry ice mixed in with the trim it made the process work a lot better. The colder the better for hash making. The crystals shatter off the plant matter instead of smearing into the screen and leaf. Same works for water extraction, I'd always use lots of ice.
The main reason I try to never spray my plants, and if I do, I research the hell out of whatever I use, I was a beekeeper for a long time.
I have a friend who had horrible powdery mildew and mold last year. I heard about Daconil and thought about recommending it to him so I researched it. Sounded a little nasty but not too bad. Until I noticed it is super toxic to bees. I've given him a few of my hives and Daconil would have wiped them out. He has a sulfur burner so he put them in a tent and smoked them out.
Besides smoking the stuff, the worst thing all these chemicals do is wipe out amphibians and insects. If it kills bees it will kill wasps too. I've seen the wasps and yellow jackets zooming around my tops of my plants. Hunting for bud worms and caterpillars. So far I've never had to spray for those guys because the wasps and dragonflies pick them off.
I have a friend who had horrible powdery mildew and mold last year. I heard about Daconil and thought about recommending it to him so I researched it. Sounded a little nasty but not too bad. Until I noticed it is super toxic to bees. I've given him a few of my hives and Daconil would have wiped them out. He has a sulfur burner so he put them in a tent and smoked them out.
Besides smoking the stuff, the worst thing all these chemicals do is wipe out amphibians and insects. If it kills bees it will kill wasps too. I've seen the wasps and yellow jackets zooming around my tops of my plants. Hunting for bud worms and caterpillars. So far I've never had to spray for those guys because the wasps and dragonflies pick them off.
Exactly, theres always a give and take with the natural world. I just don't know if I want to smoke whats in tums. I guess its very dilute. Does it affect flavor?
Curious about the dry ice sifting method. I bet that would get a pretty good trichome yeild being that cold!
Buds are drying down. Stirred them up again and broke apart a few buds that weren't drying as fast. 10 day forecast still looks dry!
Curious about the dry ice sifting method. I bet that would get a pretty good trichome yeild being that cold!
Buds are drying down. Stirred them up again and broke apart a few buds that weren't drying as fast. 10 day forecast still looks dry!
Kygiacomo!!!
AppAlachiAn OutLaW
hey i got greencure it looks just like baking soda and has no smell. its a really good mold control to have on hand as it kills mold spores on contact. just becareful and not put to much as it will burn the hairs on the plant. silverback rec 1/2 tbs per 1 gallon of spray.
Kygiacomo!!!
AppAlachiAn OutLaW
Exactly, theres always a give and take with the natural world. I just don't know if I want to smoke whats in tums. I guess its very dilute. Does it affect flavor?
Curious about the dry ice sifting method. I bet that would get a pretty good trichome yeild being that cold!
Buds are drying down. Stirred them up again and broke apart a few buds that weren't drying as fast. 10 day forecast still looks dry!
same here bro! this is been a perfect september so far. no rain and low humidity here. i could have grown those damn Og kush that i tried last year and failed lol i think everthing on my end will be done by end of this month except these 2 new strains,jacky white & critical jack and the Delas which always finish around the 5th-10 of oct. it will be a big relief if i can get the rest out there and also alot less water carrying. im going to water the organic dela and jacky tomorrow morning at 630am so i will have some pics of how they are doing.
I think the cool nights and mornings will slow down productivity a little bit, but we're right on average for temp. this time of year. The cooler weather helps conserve moisture though, so that helps.... If we didn't have those random rains, we'd be seeing much less mold. Wish I hadn't had to cut the big tops. The smoke I got recently is good, and flavored, but I know it gets better. Will just smoke a little more if it has less potency....
Went out to check on the gals and found a lot of new mold spots. The rain last weekend drove water in. More rain chances foreceast this week and temps will be cooling down. Decided to go ahead and bring the girls home. I realize the flavor and potency would get better if I left them for a little while. Would have been nice to let them ripen longer, but mold keeps creeping in, and I'm only available to work on weekends. So here we are, happy harvest! Will post a couple pics later.
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Robrites
Some years we do all we can but weather is still the largest determining factor. It has been a good ride watching and learning from you PipeLine. Thank you. "Next year, next year" has long been the farmers cry.
Thanks Robrites! I know the crop can ripen and get better. And ultimately its the growers decision whether or not to potentially sacrifice some yield to get another week of ripening... I saw the forecast, saw the mold, saw the tops were ripe and made the decision. There is no wrong choice. If I were to let them go to 3rd week of october to finish, I may lose half or more to mold... To be honest, I wish I would have chanced it another week. I'm tired of pruning out mold, and it was widespread... Little spots everywhere. I also dry outside, getting them in while the weather cooperates is very important. Stay tuned for pics.
Some years I've taken the tops down early fearing mold or hard frost, but I often leave the popcorn to fill out another week.
I figure its not a big risk leaving it and it usually takes more time to finish down low anyway. The airiness and being close to the ground help prevent mold/frost.
I figure its not a big risk leaving it and it usually takes more time to finish down low anyway. The airiness and being close to the ground help prevent mold/frost.
I like your strategy it's the smart thing to do. Take the nugs that are starting to mold. And the big colas that are likely to mold. So you don't risk being shut out by rip offs and grey mold.
Leave lower limbs and less dense branches to finish all the way. If some rots you still have quite a bit of A+ finished ganja once you pick through the mold.
Making hashish from the early mold pickings is a good strategy too.
Leave lower limbs and less dense branches to finish all the way. If some rots you still have quite a bit of A+ finished ganja once you pick through the mold.
Making hashish from the early mold pickings is a good strategy too.
