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~PIFF~ A.K.A. Uptown Haze/Frankies/Church. Preserving a Heritage...

CannaT

starin' at the world through my rearview
Is there a WW x HazeA?
I growed few versions of WW that are very much something like haze.
Not as strong as haze hybrids.
But there are lemony acid phenos that are very metallic and "hazy".
There are also peachy phenos that have hazy vibes while burning.

At moment I have 3 females DP's regular ww...we will see how its compare to Sensis.
But from strain description its also from fruty to acid lemon smells.
 

bigherb

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Veteran
NLHzA is getting sold in Coffeeshops, freely accessible to everybody, since 1995.
That's soon 28 years. Real NLHzA clone created and selected by Nevil Schoenmakers, in Holland.
Verfied Haze genetics. Verified story.

And this is an Oregon dispensary Haze....
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Sup brother



Respect OG I know you’ve truly experienced the Haze throughout the years on the Dutch Coffee Shop Scene . You are Correct in regard to South Holland



My Reference was my experience with Amsterdam
We’ve spoke in-depth in pm you know my experience is strictly Amsterdam , I’ve smoked almost everything between 03-07 . Most tourists who visit Holland visit Amsterdam and Sadly my experience has been shared by many that quality can be lacking Heavy.



I’m familiar with the history of S.Holland Breda Maastricht Tilburg . But these clones didn’t frequent Amsterdam atleast not when I Visited , I’ve experienced HpHzC from green house & Hawaiian HzC - I believe if that’s what Abraxas and Dampkring held .


With your immense knowledge of the Hazes in holland and love of Incense I was hoping you’d touch on that trait .

Since you Touched on NLHZA , This thread is about NYC Haze any specific thoughts on what Strain could be of closest relation ?

Do you believe it’s possible the NYC Haze is A5 seed stock or another Haze stock ?


1luvbigherb
 

bigherb

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Just so it's clear Mauritius P2 is actually the NHz cut submitted by Ace seeds but mis-labelled. Also there's two different A5's on phylos. One submitted by Ace the other DNA genetics ...
Suggests piff is more closely related to NHz over A5 ...

I believe the opposite, I’m not sure at all how genetics works but

How is the M P2 aka Nevils Haze closer than A5 when Dominican piff has only 4 relatives while NH has 11 . The other A5 from DNA also shows relation to Nevils Haze but Ace A5 show’s relationship to only Piff not DNA Genetics A5

Also hashplant haze from DNA im sure is 99 % HpHzC and she show’s relation to both Ace & DNA A5 samples . Soo again this is not my field ( but I’m willing to learn) . I don’t think it’s easy to distinguish strains from the same stock exp - HzA n HzC through this phylos .

1luvbigherb
 

CannaT

starin' at the world through my rearview
Sup brother



Respect OG I know you’ve truly experienced the Haze throughout the years on the Dutch Coffee Shop Scene . You are Correct in regard to South Holland



My Reference was my experience with Amsterdam
We’ve spoke in-depth in pm you know my experience is strictly Amsterdam , I’ve smoked almost everything between 03-07 . Most tourists who visit Holland visit Amsterdam and Sadly my experience has been shared by many that quality can be lacking Heavy.



I’m familiar with the history of S.Holland Breda Maastricht Tilburg . But these clones didn’t frequent Amsterdam atleast not when I Visited , I’ve experienced HpHzC from green house & Hawaiian HzC - I believe if that’s what Abraxas and Dampkring held .


With your immense knowledge of the Hazes in holland and love of Incense I was hoping you’d touch on that trait .

Since you Touched on NLHZA , This thread is about NYC Haze any specific thoughts on what Strain could be of closest relation ?

Do you believe it’s possible the NYC Haze is A5 seed stock or another Haze stock ?


1luvbigherb
Why do you think that NYC haze is something special.
Its just good pheno that can be found in any haze seeds.
From Sensi, Mr.Nice,Ace,Karma,Topdawg....
I saw people find piff phenos in SSH,MangoHz,Nevilles,Nl5hz,Jackherer...
So we can conclude that piff is just marketing term something like "OG" these days.
 

goingrey

Well-known member
This is what user @killa12345 said back in 2009:

killa12345 said:
The cubans i know grow majority haze, silver, black, and mango.....They are the only people i know that like to only grow long hazes and i appreciate the fine sativa they bring us at a fraction of the rest of the world!
Source:
 

CannaT

starin' at the world through my rearview
This is what user @killa12345 said back in 2009:


Source:
So piff is not something special or some rare genetics. Just propper grown Dutch haze hybrid and thats all.
 

Airloom

Well-known member
Premium user
Well, some might argue that a good Haze grown well is something special. :cool:
No argument, that’s a fact IMHO.
(Not implying you’re serious about the arguing part)
Even with all the info I glean here I know I’ll have to work hard to get to “properly grown” haze.

Knowledge/experience is kinda like
Facts/effort

I have to put in the time/effort to get the experience and the facts/knowledge gleaned here from generous members certainly helps with the learning curve. ✌️
 

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