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Lucas

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> If you read the Canna site they suggest that you initially flood the medium with a cal/mag additive to release this extra K as young plants can get burnt from it's initial release from the material.

I could not find that info

I did find a video that says they already remove the K and add the Ca and Mg before bagging CannaCoco for sale:
http://www.canna-uk.com/dhtml/coco_slides.php

> is there a "lucas formula" ratio for this stuff? (FloraNovaBloom)

yes, about 8ml/gallon, confirmed by an EC of 2.0, TDS [email protected] conversion.. its OK to float around between 1200 and 1500ppm imho, and you can tweak pH a bit that way, stronger EC drops pH..

> So is there a Luca's formula thread here or not?

yes, my signature links to some recent posts I made to archive the info..

Lucas
 
G

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They remove some of it but not enough of it as I have seen at least 6 cases of initial K burn in your clones/seedlings in Canna brand coco.
The thing that gets me with the Canna site is the have 50 different versions of their info flying around,I swear if I get my hands on that thread you would be amazed @ how many different versions of their info sheet they have.
There is only 1 element that I know of that twist the tips of MJ plants that early on and it's K.
Just checked out that site, they really condensed the material they used to have on using Canna coco.
 

casey

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is there a simple formula for PBP to follow one can use,similar to the lucas formula for Gh 3 part??


i'm a just a beginner.
 

Lucas

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GrowGreen's Organic Hydro Formula

GrowGreen's Organic Hydro Formula

> is there a simple formula for PBP to follow one can use,similar to the lucas formula for Gh 3 part??

yes

see page 4 of this thread

hth
Lucas
 
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SuperToker

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casey said:
nice one jerk

your the dumbass from OG that can't read or search. for god sakes, you posted in a thread with nothing but pbp formulas. did your order arrive yet? if that method doesn't work, you might try hooked on phonics although its a more dated method of learning how to read.
 

casey

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SuperToker said:
your the dumbass from OG that can't read or search. for god sakes, you posted in a thread with nothing but pbp formulas. did your order arrive yet? if that method doesn't work, you might try hooked on phonics although its a more dated method of learning how to read.




you're the dumbass that cant spell you're.....idiot



"dumbass from OG that can't read or search"..did you ever stop to think I read and searched before I asked..condescending prick,jumped at the chance to show his witless humour...let me guess you pwnz noobs..
 

all_is_1

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Guys. Please. We're all adults here. Stop this crap immediately. Hardly anyone on this site spells well and very few people are idiots.
 

meduser180056

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I use PBPB soil formula which is 1.5-4-5. So I downloaded the PH's spreadsheet and I think I came up with a good mix. The liquid Karma might not be necessary, but I have a bottle so why not? It does raise PPMs significantly though so a lighter dose might be better. The 10ml of Cal-mag is necessary for the Nitrogen and the Magnesium cuz the soil bloom formula has less nitrogen.

So here it is:

15ml PBPBsoil
10ml Cal-Mag
10ml Liquid Karma
2.5ml Pro-Tekt Silica

This gives you:
115
72
195
51

This mix comes out to about 1.8ec. I use tap water.
I have really good tap water that is around 40ppms.

Does that sound about right?
Also should I only water with 1/3rd strength everytime since I'm in soil?
What should the EC/ppm be of the nute mix when using a fertless soil?
I'd like to feed with every watering.

Hope that mix helps someone out there.
 

cabanetforester

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Brown sludge, what causes it?

Brown sludge, what causes it?

Greetings PBP people,

I have been using PBP Grow and Liquid Karma in my DWC. I am using less than 1/2 strength of each. I am seeing a thick brown sludge appear in spots around the roots. Is this normal?

Here are my details:

9 gallon DWC temp is 68-74 F

2- 10 " bubble wands (1 under each plant)

170 GPH powerhead with venturi attached

Bubblemaid container is light-proofed to about 95%

10ml/gallon PBP-G
5ml/gallon LK
5ml/gallon hydroguard
PPM = 800

Plants seem to be doing ok, but have gone kind of soft the last couple days. Fan leaf stems aren't quite as rigid as they used to be.

Does any one else get this thick brown build up? :pointlaug .CF
 

senseless

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whats up pb users?

any of you use the new bonticare product called 'Sweet'? its a carbohydrate addative. and contains magnesium, sulfur and calcium. along with sugar extracts from the sugar cane plant.

currently the nutreints i have/am using are pbp grow/bloom, cal-mag plus, Sweet, and BioNova pk-13-14 boost. i have never changed out my rez water and dont plan to. i add nutreints sparingly when i think the plants need some. and i started pk boosting on day21 flower.

anyone ever use the bio nova pk booster? i picked it up because the hydro store diddnt have any Hydroplex pk booster and they reccomended i get the bio nova stuff.
 
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all_is_1

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I am a fan of sweet. No scientific proof, but plant vigor and color seem to be improved when sweet is incorporated into the pbp program.
 

skryllz

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I love PBP. I use between 10-20ml/gal of PBP grow in veg and 20-30ml/gal PBP bloom for flowering. I don't use any additives, I use distilled water, but occasionally top off with tap water or add a pinch of epsom salts to add a little calcium and magnesium. I've never checked my ph, tds, ec nothing. I just follow the directions on the bottle, sometimes I use about 3/4 of whats recommended, but regardless PBP works its magic and my plants never really have any problems. I know I could probably grow better plants if I used some additives and checked ph, tds, ec all that fun stuff, but for now what I do works wonders for me.
 

senseless

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i was looking on the bonticare website and it looks like they have a new addative.

SEA BLAST npk = .1-0-.1 'Liquid Seaweed Concentrate'

'A highly beneficial plant nutrient supplement for fruits, vegetables, herbs, flowers, trees, shrubs, and lawns. For use in container gardens or soilless hydrogardening applications.'
http://www.americanagritech.com/product/product_detail.asp?ID=1&pro_id_pk=41

it sounds good to me, in the past ive used liquid seaweed and it is great stuff.
 
G

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I use PBP with R/O water and it likes to make my pH go down below 4.0, also Is there supposed to be lots of sediment in the water?
 
J

James-Bong

bartender187 said:
Takes this with a grain of salt ST... but Ive recently heard from a fellow ICer, i think it was GrowDoc, that CalMag doesnt like to be mixed up with other nutes.

peace



Ive used Cal-mag with PBP 4 3 years now..... no probs at all 7ml per gallon of solution....
 
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mr.blast_420 said:
I use PBP with R/O water and it likes to make my pH go down below 4.0, also Is there supposed to be lots of sediment in the water?

The ph drop is normal but I don't see much sediment in my stuff. Cloudy and dark yes but no chunks floating around.

peace
 
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