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not big chunks but silt like sediment, maybe because I use it with Floralicious Plus
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Oh and im useing the soil stuff
payn4school
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This is my special lucas wanna-be aeroponic recipe, for RO
Early Flower: ml per gallon
Pro flower soil: 15 ml
LK: 5ml
Sweet: 5ml
Cal-Mag: 3ml
yeilds approximately:
N-94
P-90
K-218
Mg-57
C-77
Late flower less Nitrogen:
Pro flower soil: 15 ml
LK: 5ml
Sweet: 5ml
Cal-Mag max(Millenium): 5ml
(This can be any cal mag suplement that does not contain nitrogen)
yields:
N-78
P-90
K-218
Mg-62
C-111
This formula is still in testing but i have very high hopes for it, excuse the pun.
Early Flower: ml per gallon
Pro flower soil: 15 ml
LK: 5ml
Sweet: 5ml
Cal-Mag: 3ml
yeilds approximately:
N-94
P-90
K-218
Mg-57
C-77
Late flower less Nitrogen:
Pro flower soil: 15 ml
LK: 5ml
Sweet: 5ml
Cal-Mag max(Millenium): 5ml
(This can be any cal mag suplement that does not contain nitrogen)
yields:
N-78
P-90
K-218
Mg-62
C-111
This formula is still in testing but i have very high hopes for it, excuse the pun.
payn4school
Member
if by "micros" you mean the npk , I used the this:
http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/fourtwenty/articles/profiles.htm
IF by "micros" you mean the trace minerals and such, there are plenty in the botanicare lineup.
Just did the math, althogh I supose with organics thats iincorrect but its close enough for me.
payn
http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/fourtwenty/articles/profiles.htm
IF by "micros" you mean the trace minerals and such, there are plenty in the botanicare lineup.
Just did the math, althogh I supose with organics thats iincorrect but its close enough for me.
payn
payn4school
Member
anywhere from 6.2 down to 5.8, I use my top off res to keep it nearly perfect. But Im still trying to predict the plants eating habits so far, cause that can change the ph rapidly. Also when the plants are under an infection or attact of some kind the plant will leach acids back into the medium therefor make the ph drop like a rock, just another thing to watch out for.
payn
payn
DurbanPoison
Member
Ok guys - this has proved to be an unbelieveable Veg formula so far;
It's Johnson's Solution
105-33-138-85-25
I use distilled water and mix the following to get pretty damn close:
12ml PBP Bloom (oddly .. but for some reason pbp bloom has hardly any P!)
5ml Cal Mag Plus (You may be able to go without if you're using a harder tap water)
5.8pH (Ever since I started this recipe & adjusted the pH - I haven't changed the pH at all for the past 3 days)
This solution will report about 770ppms if you test it overall. The actual NPK values you'll get are as follows:
111N - 29P - 140K - 77Ca - 33Mg
It still bugs me that PBP Bloom is so weak on P, i'll have to see how this works with bloom. It's likely i'll be using something different because anyone - we want those calyx's to stretch the hell out. And get way.. way to big.
I have been doing research on waters and distilled is hands down the best IMO. Any other form of purification still allows crap to come through so you don't really know what your working with. I put my digital hanna ppm meter in distilled water and get between 1-3ppm's at most - usually 0. Now THAT is some clean water. I've recently found how important it is to ensure that your potassium is aligned with the Ca and Mg.
It's Johnson's Solution
105-33-138-85-25
I use distilled water and mix the following to get pretty damn close:
12ml PBP Bloom (oddly .. but for some reason pbp bloom has hardly any P!)
5ml Cal Mag Plus (You may be able to go without if you're using a harder tap water)
5.8pH (Ever since I started this recipe & adjusted the pH - I haven't changed the pH at all for the past 3 days)
This solution will report about 770ppms if you test it overall. The actual NPK values you'll get are as follows:
111N - 29P - 140K - 77Ca - 33Mg
It still bugs me that PBP Bloom is so weak on P, i'll have to see how this works with bloom. It's likely i'll be using something different because anyone - we want those calyx's to stretch the hell out. And get way.. way to big.
I have been doing research on waters and distilled is hands down the best IMO. Any other form of purification still allows crap to come through so you don't really know what your working with. I put my digital hanna ppm meter in distilled water and get between 1-3ppm's at most - usually 0. Now THAT is some clean water. I've recently found how important it is to ensure that your potassium is aligned with the Ca and Mg.
DurbanPoison said:Ok guys - this has proved to be an unbelieveable Veg formula so far;
It's Johnson's Solution
105-33-138-85-25
I use distilled water and mix the following to get pretty damn close:
12ml PBP Bloom (oddly .. but for some reason pbp bloom has hardly any P!)
5ml Cal Mag Plus (You may be able to go without if you're using a harder tap water)
5.8pH (Ever since I started this recipe & adjusted the pH - I haven't changed the pH at all for the past 3 days)
This solution will report about 770ppms if you test it overall. The actual NPK values you'll get are as follows:
111N - 29P - 140K - 77Ca - 33Mg
It still bugs me that PBP Bloom is so weak on P, i'll have to see how this works with bloom. It's likely i'll be using something different because anyone - we want those calyx's to stretch the hell out. And get way.. way to big.
I have been doing research on waters and distilled is hands down the best IMO. Any other form of purification still allows crap to come through so you don't really know what your working with. I put my digital hanna ppm meter in distilled water and get between 1-3ppm's at most - usually 0. Now THAT is some clean water. I've recently found how important it is to ensure that your potassium is aligned with the Ca and Mg.
During bloom add some Hydroplex and you will be pleased with the PBB.
Mr.Wags
DurbanPoison
Member
I just added liquid karma to get the following:
116N - 30P - 155K - 77Ca - 33Mg 12ml PBP Bloom and 5ml Cal Mag Plus and 3ml Karma
I think it's going to help. It increased some things that could use it.
Wags - Thanks for the tip! I'll have to check into the hydroplex. I was thinking of getting some of that silica blast.
Sounds like I may need to make a switch of plans. Thanks wags!
116N - 30P - 155K - 77Ca - 33Mg 12ml PBP Bloom and 5ml Cal Mag Plus and 3ml Karma
I think it's going to help. It increased some things that could use it.
Wags - Thanks for the tip! I'll have to check into the hydroplex. I was thinking of getting some of that silica blast.
Sounds like I may need to make a switch of plans. Thanks wags!
Ok so I want some people to try out my spreadsheet.
http://stashbox.org/6022/botanicarespreadsheet.xlr
It will automatically compute the N,P,K,Mg,Ca,Fe levels for the botanicare lineup when given the ml/gallon used for each product.
I just took the numbers I got off of pH's spreadsheet
http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/fourtwenty/articles/profiles.htm
Makes it a lot easier. I am pretty sure all the math, numbers are right. On pH's spreadsheet it does some rounding so I used 100ml in the form for each product and then devided by 100 to get more accurate numbers per ml. I am not sure if I am explaning it very well.
To use my spreadsheet only change the values in the red box. The blue box will show you your npk values.
For instance when I enter the values I would do this
PBP Bloom 0
PBP Soil Bloom 16
Liquid Karma 10
CalMag+ 6
Sweet 4
and the spreadsheet will output
N 106.652
P 85.792
K 212.38
MG 62.856
CA 98.296
FE 2.3
This is pretty close to the 100-100-200-60 and the 4-2-1 recomendations.
I am thinking about setting up a few small ebb flows with different formulas
pico
http://stashbox.org/6022/botanicarespreadsheet.xlr
It will automatically compute the N,P,K,Mg,Ca,Fe levels for the botanicare lineup when given the ml/gallon used for each product.
I just took the numbers I got off of pH's spreadsheet
http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/fourtwenty/articles/profiles.htm
Makes it a lot easier. I am pretty sure all the math, numbers are right. On pH's spreadsheet it does some rounding so I used 100ml in the form for each product and then devided by 100 to get more accurate numbers per ml. I am not sure if I am explaning it very well.
To use my spreadsheet only change the values in the red box. The blue box will show you your npk values.
For instance when I enter the values I would do this
PBP Bloom 0
PBP Soil Bloom 16
Liquid Karma 10
CalMag+ 6
Sweet 4
and the spreadsheet will output
N 106.652
P 85.792
K 212.38
MG 62.856
CA 98.296
FE 2.3
This is pretty close to the 100-100-200-60 and the 4-2-1 recomendations.
I am thinking about setting up a few small ebb flows with different formulas
pico
payn4school
Member
Can someone tell me why canna calc is off by so much when computing hydrolplex soil. Try it your self:
http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/fourtwenty/
The bottle says it has 158ppm phos and 105 ppm k.
Well when you imput the percentages for this in the calc the K is right on at 105 but the fricken P is way off at only 82! thats almost off by half and under which is even worse.
So now I cant trust this damm calc and the lucas ratio is not correct either. I am still experiencing a K deficiency and the P is in much high demand than stated.
Plants are massive but nowhere near flawless. There are definet problems with using the botanicare line, a main one being a calcium and K deficency. I will work through it but my Nute calc HAS GOT TO BE MORE ACCURATE!@#!@#@@!
Any suggestions>>>>????DSFGASDGDFWEQ%R#$QWET^#$%%WB$%YV$%YWG
Sorry, just had to pound on the keys for a sec.
6 weeks
http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/fourtwenty/
The bottle says it has 158ppm phos and 105 ppm k.
Well when you imput the percentages for this in the calc the K is right on at 105 but the fricken P is way off at only 82! thats almost off by half and under which is even worse.
So now I cant trust this damm calc and the lucas ratio is not correct either. I am still experiencing a K deficiency and the P is in much high demand than stated.
Plants are massive but nowhere near flawless. There are definet problems with using the botanicare line, a main one being a calcium and K deficency. I will work through it but my Nute calc HAS GOT TO BE MORE ACCURATE!@#!@#@@!
Any suggestions>>>>????DSFGASDGDFWEQ%R#$QWET^#$%%WB$%YV$%YWG
Sorry, just had to pound on the keys for a sec.
6 weeks
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I was wondering if hydroplex soil 0-12-8 npk might be just the think to take care of some of the p deficiency's, also any problems with using the hydroplex soil with soiless coco mix?
Rush Limbong
Member
Excellent thread!
I'm a soil grower jumping into Hydro, so bare with me.
My tap water is reading right at "30" on my TDS meter.
Should I use cal/mag with PBP
Thanks,
Rush
I'm a soil grower jumping into Hydro, so bare with me.
My tap water is reading right at "30" on my TDS meter.
Should I use cal/mag with PBP
Thanks,
Rush
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Rush- I would think so. Just with the 5ml. But what do I know. I have nice hard well water.
Some interesting reading here but unforunately most of it is above my head. I'm hoping someone could help me with a formula.
I'm growing White Widow in Promix and would like to try Pure Blend Pro with my tap water. What feeding regimen should I be starting with? And do you feed this blend every watering?
Keep in mind that due to my limited success so far my biggest concern is healthy plants above quality or quantity. I can work on that later. Unfortunately I seem to have a black thumb so simpler is better.
Thanks for any advice.
I'm growing White Widow in Promix and would like to try Pure Blend Pro with my tap water. What feeding regimen should I be starting with? And do you feed this blend every watering?
Keep in mind that due to my limited success so far my biggest concern is healthy plants above quality or quantity. I can work on that later. Unfortunately I seem to have a black thumb so simpler is better.
Thanks for any advice.
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Im using
PBP Bloom 10ml/gal
LK 10ML/gal
CalMag 5ml/gal
I end up with a ppm of 1270 Im on day 40 of Flower Sound OK ? Suggestions?
PBP Bloom 10ml/gal
LK 10ML/gal
CalMag 5ml/gal
I end up with a ppm of 1270 Im on day 40 of Flower Sound OK ? Suggestions?
flower wave
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using pbpnutes, soilless moisture form. having yellowing problems think its my water/feed cycle is wrong. hand watering to run off. ppm 500-1000. veg.ph5.8-6.1 in, usually 6.5-6.7 out. how much water in how much out 3 gln. pots 400mh.
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