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OUTDOOR GROWS 2023 -ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE-

St. Phatty

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It feels wierd to use the Sun, because there hasn't been any Sun to use for about 6 months.

Got it shining on 4 plants right now !

Had to move them around to get morning and afternoon sun.

The one plant is a nice mix of Indica and Sativa. The other plant is mostly Sativa.

The Cannabis Cat got chased up a tree by his girlfriend, a black cat that outweighs him by about 3 pounds.

She's real smart. I only gave her a 1/3 can of cat food this morning, to let her know I wasn't happy with her being mean to her buddy.

But I'm afraid if I cut off her food too much, she'll eat one of the birds.

He's been up there a full day now. Got rained on last night. I put the net up thinking it might be easier for him to come down on.
 

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Chuck Jägerschnitzel

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40ºSouth, thats some really heavy thick looking resin on the Blackdog. If you got a glass tube to heat up, fresh resin is really tasty. You can vape it right off the live plant, I've done so myself.
BuckeyeGreen, I'd say you can probably put those seeds out whenever you like. If any of them are sissy and die, then good riddance, the survivors are your rugged outdoor genetics in that case. Last year I started some in March, they got snowed on and hailed on in April and about half died, I was happy as can be with that result, I bred the survivor boys & girls together, made seeds that I know will handle most anything thats thrown at them by mother nature. As far as the essay goes, one thing you're overlooking is that the feds in D.C. are mostly stoned out of their gourds on much, much stronger stuff, everything Gary Webb wrote about them 25 years ago is still true, those feds disrespect Mary Jane because its too weak for their tastes, but I agree that modern marijuana is on the strong side. One-hit-shit use to be hard to find, now its standard.

Heres a volunteer that came up in my spinach & kale
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40degsouth

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Hey everyone,
Yeah Chuck Jagerschnitzel, she’s an incredible plant; l can’t believe more people aren’t running her or at least talking about her. I’ve been really impressed with some of the Blackdog crosses from the AOG f5 but haven’t really found a keeper. l think the winter trials of the bx1’s will be very interesting.

I’ve got some really exciting stuff for next year and I’m feeling a little spoiled for choice and really humbled with the genetics in the stable. The invaluable knowledge given to me this year by Bradley Danks helped me push the susceptible plants through the leaf spot and got them over the finish line. I’m a firm believer in that we make our own luck and I’m overwhelmed with how lucky I’ve been this year.
I’d love a bit more information on how to vape directly off the plant, that sounds fun. I think I’d need to be very careful though 😉😉

But on a more serious note…………and the winner is………Blackdog x AOG f5
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The runner up and honourable mention goes toooo…………your favourite and mine………the big Wam Wam girl, complete with the easy finger hash off the first pick 🤗
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And just for fun…….the wasabi experiment was %100 successful, Mazuna if anyone’s interested 🤷‍♂️
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Cheers,
40.
 

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St. Phatty

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It will be strange bringing the plants indoors in 2 weeks, but that is the cost of using spring light to do flowering.

2 of them are Sativas and will not be finished.

Thanks to the magic of Photosynthesis, 1 or 2 will provide some BUDS ... if the deer don't get them and they don't get grow-ripped.
 

BrassNwood

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If I get my spring plants in the ground to flower on March 15th I can harvest June 1st and be assured a good set. This year trapped in snow until the 1st week in April screwed the pooch but good on that timing so to avoid a total shit show I've got half under lights and they will be the summer set only 5 weeks early.. LOL
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therevverend

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I need guidance on when to put out my young my seedlings for my mj. I put all my flowers and shrubs out after the last frost which is about May 10th in my growing zone 5b in central Ohio, US. Would it be alright for me to put out my my seedlings, after they have hardened off, in the garden mid-May here or would they try to flower too early? Not sure about my timing at all. Going to grow a mostly indica strain for height and stealth reasons.

Clones will sometimes start to flower if you put them out to early. Seedlings will not unless they're extreme photo-sensitive or auto-flower types. I start my seedlings under natural light in March so I can pre-sex them in May and June, they don't go into flower but they do throw some pre-flowers. I'm at 47 degrees N. You could put yours out whenever the low temperature is 35 degrees F or higher. (to be on the safe side)

Unless it freezes they won't die. I've been shuttling my seedlings in and out of the house every night. This will go on until I get too lazy and/or forget to do it a few days. Or until I transplant enough of them into 1 gallys to the point it's too much work. Usually I only do this during periods of cool wet weather, this year I've gotten interested in soil temperatures. I've noticed my seedlings grow sluggishly until mid May, the likely reason being the cloudy wet weather. But it's also possible the roots aren't warm enough. Cannabis prefers soil temperatures of 58 F degrees or higher. My temps are around 38-50 degrees F. By moving them into the house where the temperature is 62 degrees at night it hopefully keeps the roots warmer and growing faster.

You wanna stay with the, hey man let’s breed the trippiest shit we can attitude, which I agree with as an adult recreational use drug, then we need to backtrack and start promoting the drugs we are creating as adult recreational use only. It’s going to be much easier to get approval that way. Once we are in the game then we can start the long and expensive process to get approval for the medicinal benefits.
It’s a long, slow game on the federal level and we need to play the long game. Trying to get quick approval for a drug as a pharmaceutical with the federal government, who has been having a war with for you for 50 years over this drug, is not a smart move. You want quicker approval, promote it differently.

I live in a legal state so I know a bit about the politics surrounding legalization. Your first mistake is thinking there's logical thinking behind anything the government does relating to cannabis. Politicians are as likely to ban strains for making people 'too tired' or 'too mellow and lazy' as they are 'too speedy' or 'too trippy', if they are capable of thinking in such abstract terms. Their primary concern seems to be overall THC content. If you're trying to make cannabis warm and fuzzy to them I'd recommend growing weak shit, less then 10% THC. That would please them quite a bit. That's 2nd best, what really makes them happy is hemp containing 0.1% THC.

Effects from cannabis are entirely subjective. What is 'too strong' for one person is 'too weak' for somebody else. What is medically effective for one person doesn't touch the symptoms of another person. What someone considers too trippy, too speedy, isn't stimulating enough for someone else. What someone considers, mellow and nice, someone else dislikes because it makes them sleepy and gives them a headache. This is what makes cannabis great medicine and gives researchers headaches.

Personally I could care less whether the gov't makes the stuff legal or not. I'll be growing and breeding whatever I like and sharing my seeds with whoever wants them. Could care less if it's too trippy, stoney, sedative, or speedy for whoever doesn't like it. Those are excuses; the truth is they want a reason to hate it and will use any excuse they can find.

My plants have entered what I consider the difficult stage, no longer hatchlings but still haven't grown their true mature leaves. They're toddlers, terrible twos, threes and fours (weeks). Still extremely delicate but needing more nutrients and slightly richer soil. This is when mishaps are bound to occur. Yesterday I found a couple plants missing, a couple more lying on top of the dirt, yanked out by their stalk. I carefully replanted the yankers and cursed the culprit, likely a bird. They never go for the common stuff, I have plenty of seed of. It's always the rare and special.

Then early this morning I was transplanting, moving stuff around. Caught the edge of one of my trays and flipped it. Luckily cannabis plants are tough, no casualties but a few of them did a label jumble. Which sucks, I'll probably be able to identify them by mid flowering but I can't really use the males for breeding confidently. Fatalities due to pests and mishaps, 3 so far. More if I consider mutants.

Here's a look at what could be my best this year, Jah Gooey Fruity (jah gooey x apples and bananas) bred by nuggynic. (https://nuggysseedcompany.com/) I really like the look so far. One of his apples and bananas tested at 28% thc, 6%! terpenes. Jah gooey, also super potent and terpenated. The increased crazy smell is something I need.

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These plants have looked special from the start, different then everything else. Excited to see what happens. The strain should finish reasonably early, the Jah Gooey was done by the end of September. The Apples and Bananas October 10th-15th.

Another new strain I'm excited about is Lime Berry Mega, (Oregon Huckleberry x Megafauna) from Dynasty Seeds. My best plant last year, probably ever, was Huckleberry Punch. It got me interested in Oregon Huckleberry and Dynasty's other stuff. LBM is suppose to be very potent and trippy, the kind of cannabis your government disapproves of. The Mega part is Kali Snapple x SSH. The smell should be incredible. The seedlings so far are vigorous and look happy.

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I had a few purple volunteers last year. I always favor volunteers, these were especially awesome. Amazing purple fruity smell, lots of resin, excellent mold resistance. Very enjoyable smoke. This is what she looked like.

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Not sure of the breeding, could include Kandahar Black Maruf, Purple Bomb, and/or Grape Ape. I crossed her with 88G13HP. Here they are.

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Seems like I have a lot of supers silver haze hybrids this year. That's all right. Here's a Huckleberry Punch X (Buddha's sister x SSH). The Huckleberry Punch was amazing, gigantic yield, lots of huge frosty flowers. Wonderful hashy huckleberry fruity smell. Here's a looksie.

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The Buddha's sister x ssh was the best smelling male ever. My friend grew it rootbound in his shady swamphole which makes the smell particularly incredible. Very excited to see how this cross turns out.

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And the last ones today are the 3 little Helmand Glues ((GG4 x Chocodiesel) x Freezeland) X Helmand Afghan. From Mister D Farmhouse. Might be able to find them at the Danish seedbank Seedheaven.

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therevverend

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Forgot to add when I was writing about optimum soil temperatures. 58 degrees F is the minimum optimum soil temperature for cannabis. That's for plants directly planted into the ground. If you're using containers they'll almost certainly be warmer during the day then the ground. Containers are usually black and above the ground so they'll absorb quite a bit of heat, then radiate it out at night.

I have a friend that lives 15 miles from me. He already has volunteers popping up in his containers and compost pile even though his soil temperature is 5-10 degrees F below mine. He's been seeing them for the last 3-4 weeks. He's at nearly the same elevation as me but he's in the foothills. I'm near water and not far from a concrete jungle that absorbs heat and keeps temperatures warmer. Even so I don't usually see volunteers until the last week of April into May when the ground warms up. This shows how much warmer soil in containers or near compost can be.

In my last post I put a picture of the lime berry mega in the spot I meant to put huckleberry punch X (Buddha's sister x ssh). This has been corrected, I think. Here's a picture of the Balochi landrace hash variety 'King's Bud'. The breeder grows some of the best and creates some of the finest hashish ever. His plants are monsters, get huge and yield like crazy.

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His Balochi strains were the last to die off from cold last winter. They're nearly indestructible, drought, cold, and heat tolerant. It averages 105 degrees F in his area in July. The only drawback is that his plants are late finishers for outdoors, maturing at the end of October through the middle of November. Even though it's quite warm during the day into December it can freeze or snow at night starting in late October. Baloch strains are rarely talked about in the west, they're every bit as good as the best Afghan varieties.
 

pipeline

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Planted seed March 26. Had some issues with overwatering, fluctuating temperatures dipping below 50 F , and underfertiliziation.
Transplanting to stage 2 with a 1:20 ratio fertilized media according to the directions. Too easy to overwater. Hope they pull out. Anything else I'm missing?

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pipeline

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Would put these in the ground at this stage normally, but tomorrow night as well as next saturday night are forecast to be 35 F. Probably a couple more weeks. Transplanting to stage 2 with another couple weeks of sun will do them well. Will hopefully have some fast growing transplants in a couple weeks. May get a few more males because of the slowdown early on but maybe not.


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Creeperpark

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Would put these in the ground at this stage normally, but tomorrow night as well as next saturday night are forecast to be 35 F. Probably a couple more weeks. Transplanting to stage 2 with another couple weeks of sun will do them well. Will hopefully have some fast growing transplants in a couple weeks. May get a few more males because of the slowdown early on but maybe not.


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Keep your plants in trays so you can move in at night and back out during the day. It won't hurt to allow the plants to stay in the pot a couple of more weeks and still get daily Sun. However, don't waste the Sunshine you have now, go ahead and use it daily.

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St. Phatty

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Supposed to be 33 F tonight.

Got 6 Plants outdoors in 5 gallon buckets.

Maybe I will be motivated enough to move 1 indoors - the one that's about 2/3 through flowering.
 

pipeline

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Thanks I have been moving them back and forth, but I think they may have got a bit cold. Not sure if the mix is right. Transplants should solve it, may get some backup seed germinating in the next couple days if they don't respond.

Yeah winter is trying for a comeback today, 33F tonight. Then it should get back up to 80 Thursday and back down to 36 saturday night!

Thanks for the advice! Winter is trying to make a comeback yesterday and today, so seedlings are sheltering in place under lights.

Some of them are transplanted into individual containers, but ran out of larger small containers, so some were transplanted into quart size with 3 seedlings, some were into one gal with 4 or 5 plants, and some into long 6 inch flower troughs. Hope they don't get too stressed when separated again. Will have to be very careful when dividing for final transplant.

I have a feeling it could be the mix. The media is very fresh spagnum peat moss with perlite for drainage, but it had chunks of contaminant in it, shredded newspaper product, and I'm not sure why its there. Contaminant paper chunks were removed as much as possible, there wasn't that much.

Leaves are doing fine, its just the seed leaves that are yellowing, but for some reason the leaves have been curling downward and not orienting to the light in almost all the seedlings.

I may germinate some backup seed soon depending on how they respond in the next 2-4 days.
 

pipeline

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Doing better! Keeping them warm today. High of 43F and cloudy, going down to 33F tonight! Will be sunny and 61F tomorrow and back up to 80F Thursday!

Was up past 10PM last night getting these moved to stage 2! Indoor growing is fun. Living in a greenhouse now! :smoke:

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