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Original Haze hybrids and psychohaze phenotypes

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Limeygreen

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Thanks for your insight. I am looking forward to the big south pump and mextasy. Great parents in the selection. We grew ace Malawi and malawi x panama here. They finished end Oct / 1st week of Nov.

Most growers on this thread are very passionate about cannabis, it's great to read and learn.
My mextasy mother finishes outdoors around first to second week of November similar latitude and climate to you by the people who grew it outdoors anyways, took -6 degrees without frying that year
 

MAHA KALA

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surrealV1, super stony pheno, stronger than Limeys bandaid haze LOL hahahaha

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Legalcdn

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did you find something trippy in those?
The malawi was resinous with mid power, not trippy.
The malxpan was the strongest. But not really trippy, just hits the head and zones you out. It is all subjective when it comes to trippy. The best trip weed for me was Thai. For me to find trip, I would take mushrooms. I have high hopes for the strains you bred. I am planning some thai / thai hybrids in the fall for flower and seeds.

I am currently growing the hybrid malawi x panama indoor so only time will tell ( 5 weeks left actually ).
 

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MAHA KALA

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The malawi was resinous with mid power, not trippy.
The malxpan was the strongest. But not really trippy, just hits the head and zones you out. It is all subjective when it comes to trippy. The best trip weed for me was Thai. For me to find trip, I would take mushrooms. I have high hopes for the strains you bred. I am planning some thai / thai hybrids in the fall for flower and seeds.

I am currently growing the hybrid malawi x panama indoor so only time will tell ( 5 weeks left actually ).
hi!

very nice plants! ✅

sure it is about phenos. pheno means how genetics react to environment. pheno is individualized form of the way how genetics grow in its environment. tropical genes are specific. hybridizing helps with it, but not all genetics is preserved in hybrid, and missing parts can be missed in the power of full genetic expression in certain environment.

well subjective, people sure have their subjective feelings, which they assume like only their own. but from psychological view, ability to feel is not that personal or individually subjective as most people assume ordinarily. from psychological point of view it is same feeling, or ability of mind called feeling common for all human beings, in more or less degree. so we can create more subjective groups of people in some concept.

so there is group of people who would say ace malawi is very trippy. and another group of people will state it is not that trippy, more trance like 🤩 and another group will say it is not trippy at all.

same I found with thai. some will say thai is strong weed, but not trippy. I think it can be trippy.

same about colombian. some group will report its effect as bordering psychedelic limit, some will describe it as stony, relaxing and downer.

I found thai genetics to be trippy, like you. so I hope that in mindblower or grandfunk, you can find trippy ones. wish you just... huge luck!!!!!!!🛐 hahaha.

of course trippy ganja will be still one degree under mushrooms in intensity of tripiness.

some ganja is trippy only in hearing area and doesn't bring any visuals.
 

MAHA KALA

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I still want to make f13haze... out of 15 juicy woos I got on mutated growth one and one with crinkle/variegation leaf. so it is there... sadly... I am sure that if I would use f13, it can be much worse.. so I think that f13 pheno of diesel x f13 would be ideal for my purpose and I hope I will eliminate mutants and still get some blue fuel smell into the haze.

df13, it looks and smells like f13 pheno imo

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elanius

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Hey MK,

nice thread

but man, even the ugly plants want love xD

This one does look like F13 pheno, seems SD enhanced the calyxes a bit, but some F13 have huge calyxes on their own so hard to tell.
I understand you take your own direction with breeding but let me say, for the record - the reasonable mutant plants are the shit, they can have some unique aspects often crazy thai like rollercoaster high, worth the experience if not the keeper status.
 

MAHA KALA

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Hey MK,

nice thread

but man, even the ugly plants want love xD

This one does look like F13 pheno, seems SD enhanced the calyxes a bit, but some F13 have huge calyxes on their own so hard to tell.
I understand you take your own direction with breeding but let me say, for the record - the reasonable mutant plants are the shit, they can have some unique aspects often crazy thai like rollercoaster high, worth the experience if not the keeper status.
Hey E!

this leads me to question: was mother used in your f13haze reasonably mutated?

I believe you, but even these reasonably mutated individuals, how you call it, grow very very slow. maybe it is all right when you grow it with bubba kush indoors. but let me tell you that in greenhouse when it is grown with hazy hybrids like grandfunk for example, these reasonably mutated get totally overgrown by it and get no light... cant keep with non mutated plants... no chance. that's why I try to avoid it.. too slow growth.

I need only strong and maximally vigorous plants.
 

elanius

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Hey E!

this leads me to question: was mother used in your f13haze reasonably mutated?

I believe you, but even these reasonably mutated individuals, how you call it, grow very very slow. maybe it is all right when you grow it with bubba kush indoors. but let me tell you that in greenhouse when it is grown with hazy hybrids like grandfunk for example, these reasonably mutated get totally overgrown by it and get no light... cant keep with non mutated plants... no chance. that's why I try to avoid it.. too slow growth.

I need only strong and maximally vigorous plants.

That F13 mother was clean, not even one crinkle leaf from what I remember. It can be hiding in the genetics, you have often chance to find mutants further in the line. I had Blueberry Indica female that was completely symmetrical plant, never seen any mutation and crossed to Haze, the offspring is all mutated. On the other hand, other pheno from Blueberry line threw zero mutated plants. Its trial error situation.
What I mean by reasonable mutation, better to call it crinkle leafs. It should not make the plant grow very slow, thats not desirable at all. The crinkle plants I tried grew normally, maybe a bit slower then the most vigorous but nothing that noticeable really.

Here is Flo x Golli Haze, it grows normally, on par with other plants its age. When I see these leafs, I am more excited than them being symmetrical to be honest lol.
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MAHA KALA

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That F13 mother was clean, not even one crinkle leaf from what I remember. It can be hiding in the genetics, you have often chance to find mutants further in the line. I had Blueberry Indica female that was completely symmetrical plant, never seen any mutation and crossed to Haze, the offspring is all mutated. On the other hand, other pheno from Blueberry line threw zero mutated plants. Its trial error situation.
What I mean by reasonable mutation, better to call it crinkle leafs. It should not make the plant grow very slow, thats not desirable at all. The crinkle plants I tried grew normally, maybe a bit slower then the most vigorous but nothing that noticeable really.

Here is Flo x Golli Haze, it grows normally, on par with other plants its age. When I see these leafs, I am more excited than them being symmetrical to be honest lol.
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nice plant, but hard to say from pic, how much it is vigorous. to be sincere, even non mutated blue plants are not so vigorous for me. in greenhouse, blue velvet cuts I got from Bohempian, it was disaster, they couldn't take heat... old time moonshine cut, which is very well known to you, was okay if vegged long enough. but outcrosses like otm x diesel or otm x dchaze were much much better doing.

I see. so yeah I have to inform you that f13haze is heavily mutated.

I am so glad, that juicy woo(juicy fruit berry x Mr. Shine) puts out non mutated offspring. I guess I was lucky.

it seems it is better to use Flo than F13, right?

I am curious about comparison toms haze male vs. 90s haze influence on your blue mothers..
 
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