Original Haze hybrids and psychohaze phenotypes

[MAHA KALA]

2 mutants out of 15 JWs, I will let you know, brothers and sisters, if they can keep up with non mutated JWs in growth.

 

[elanius]

nice plant, but hard to say from pic, how much it is vigorous. to be sincere, even non mutated blue plants are not so vigorous for me. in greenhouse, blue velvet cuts I got from Bohempian, it was disaster, they couldn't take heat... old time moonshine cut, which is very well known to you, was okay if vegged long enough. but outcrosses like otm x diesel or otm x dchaze were much much better doing.

I see. so yeah I have to inform you that f13haze is heavily mutated.

I am so glad, that juicy woo(juicy fruit berry x Mr. Shine) puts out non mutated offspring. I guess I was lucky.

it seems it is better to use Flo than F13, right?

I am curious about comparison toms haze male vs. 90s haze influence on your blue mothers..

I agree with you, blue genetics is in general less vigorous, outcross brings vigor back, but starting with two vigorous parents gives usually better results in that area.

Still, as Mr. Hill likes to say, "do not underestimate the runt in the corner", sometime they can snap out of it too
Yes, Flo is usually less crinkle type than F13. Btw not sure If I sent you the Haze x Blueberry but that line has no mutants at all, in fact I have never seen mutants out of any combination with that Blueberry male, he is also very passive in the genetic mix, letting the mothers genes comes forward.

 

[MAHA KALA]

no, you didn't.

I am glad you bring this theme out, in this thread it is right place for it.

there is some theory about using this recessive parent to haze... it is nice theory, I thin that Mr. Skunkman, with all respect to his work, used recessive skunk in his skunkhaze. yet in practice it is still not like original haze, it would be fine to get 12 weeker of skunkhaze which would be good as original haze, but never happened to me... in this point of view all those rumors that toms haze is skunkhaze, seem very funny.

I feel that using such parent will not bring that right F1 hybrid. f13 was not recessive for sure, first I thought that small trichs is from some haze male you used, but when growing this df13 I see it comes from f13, nice dominant trait, as that kind of resin is that "mdma" kind of... growing your f13haze helped me in current selection, thank you for inspiration your f13haze gave to me...

I personally avoid indica, recessive or not, in crossing with haze, I used peyote purple which was also recessive, but it took down duration of high anyway.. even DJ Short says about indica:

"It is the primary culprit responsible for of much of the couch-lock characteristic found in much of today’s herb. Indica usually has a low ceiling and a quick tolerance buildup. In short, it is boring, bland and dull herb, unless one seeks anesthetization"

so what happens when you cross haze with indica? everybody knows answer....

 

[Sub24ox7]

Tropical boogie #3

 

[LostTribe]

That F13 mother was clean, not even one crinkle leaf from what I remember. It can be hiding in the genetics, you have often chance to find mutants further in the line. I had Blueberry Indica female that was completely symmetrical plant, never seen any mutation and crossed to Haze, the offspring is all mutated. On the other hand, other pheno from Blueberry line threw zero mutated plants. Its trial error situation.
What I mean by reasonable mutation, better to call it crinkle leafs. It should not make the plant grow very slow, thats not desirable at all. The crinkle plants I tried grew normally, maybe a bit slower then the most vigorous but nothing that noticeable really.

Here is Flo x Golli Haze, it grows normally, on par with other plants its age. When I see these leafs, I am more excited than them being symmetrical to be honest lol.
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Looks like BB has had a heavy influence in this one for sure. I bet it will turn out to be a great combination. I am unsure if my F13 male pollenated any of the THH or the OH as of yet but really hoping!

 

[MAHA KALA]

wow or should I say WOWIE ? hehehe

 

[Limeygreen]

Thunks f2, 6 weeks of flowering, skinny girl didn't like the top dress but have been going more gently on her since.

 

[funkyhorse]

A few low res pics
Thunk F2s are growing side by side. One is taller and branchy and the other girl is short and columnar

Also an experiment. The NL5xH x CTF5 girl from the first page of this thread has been pollinized by Seedsman Hz x Ohz90 males and by Purple Highland Lao(PHL) male which are growing side by side with pure PHL
This is going to be the first time I will try a strain and the progeny it makes at the same time

Have a nice week everybody
Pd: I got the impression some people thinks getting old means getting Alzheimer. Alzheimer's desease seems to be old people sickness but not all old people get alzheimer

 

[GreenAndFast]

One week difference on acid beauty.

And this week...

Internode spacing is quite extreme. She's looking happy, @maha what pheno would you say it's leaning towards?

 

[MAHA KALA]

nice! what is the smell when you rub the stem? I got one with citric smell. that would be one you want, as citric thai is TRIPPY! also color of leafs is very yellow green obviously. otherwise all other phenos look very very similar. so it is hard to say. we will see when it is deeper in flowering.

 

[GreenAndFast]

nice! what is the smell when you rub the stem? I got one with citric smell. that would be one you want, as citric thai is TRIPPY! also color of leafs is very yellow green obviously. otherwise all other phenos look very very similar. so it is hard to say. we will see when it is deeper in flowering.

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Yeah definitely a citric type smell although very faint at the moment. Can't wait for the next few months

 

[MAHA KALA]

Yeah definitely a citric type smell although very faint at the moment. Can't wait for the next few months

4 months. you wanted it like that. it is not heavy terps sativa. it is SOFT smell, sour herbal and so. it is jungle tripweed, not uptown weed. thats what you wanted.

 

[MAHA KALA]

mextasy, rich terps sativa, lemons cola fragrant woods spice smells

grandfunk is not bad too, LimeyGreen found some that smells like jackfruit. and others found durian smells there. lemons mangoes and menthol too.

 

[elanius]

durian smells there. lemons mangoes and menthol too.

Durian terps? Sign me up. I found Durian smell in HighlandMexicanxBlueberry F2 btw, but it was not that pungent.
Absolutely love Durians since travelling in Borneo few years ago, other people apparently are not that excited about this fruit haha. Still remember that hotel lady disappointed stare..."Sir, do you have Durian in your bag?"

"Yes : ( "

 

[GreenAndFast]

4 months. you wanted it like that. it is not heavy terps sativa. it is SOFT smell, sour herbal and so. it is jungle tripweed, not uptown weed. thats what you wanted.

I did indeed

 

[MallardDuck]

4 months. you wanted it like that. it is not heavy terps sativa. it is SOFT smell, sour herbal and so. it is jungle tripweed, not uptown weed. thats what you wanted.

Mindblower is not a soft smell... I have had multiple people ask me what I have in my pocket with a wink in public now.

 

[NOREGRETZ]

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mextasy, ricos terps sativa, limones cola fragantes maderas olores a especias

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Grandfunk tampoco está mal, LimeyGreen encontró algunos que huelen a jaca. y otros encontraron olores de durian allí. limones mangos y mentol también.

Hola, oye obtuve algunas semillas de surreal de elchischas aquí en México, pero quiero saber si vienen directo de tu reproducción y cual es la versión que obtuve?

 

[MAHA KALA]

Hola.

Hola,

el primero parece surreal(toms haze/oaxacan79 x bshw) de mí, bshw x lilly no de mí, creo que es de @unnamedmike, él puerte decirte más. puedes esperar olores a especias de caramelo naranja o olores picantes de sándalo de Surreal F2s de unnamedmike.

Mindblower is not a soft smell... I have had multiple people ask me what I have in my pocket with a wink in public now.

sure man, it is loud stuff. Mr. Shine outcrosses are very different to black vietnamese crosses. I know that wink once I traveled with casey jones little bud in my pocket, whole bus smelled really bad hahaha. thank you for reporting that, share all impressions you have with mindblower with us please

 

[MAHA KALA]

Durian terps? Sign me up. I found Durian smell in HighlandMexicanxBlueberry F2 btw, but it was not that pungent.
Absolutely love Durians since travelling in Borneo few years ago, other people apparently are not that excited about this fruit haha. Still remember that hotel lady disappointed stare..."Sir, do you have Durian in your bag?"

"Yes : ( "

ehehheehe another stinky traveler in hotel LOL hahaha.

I have never had jackfruit or durian, so I have no clue, I just got reports about the smell like that. it is also probably not so pungent like that fruit, but it is pungent ganja either way. some phenos of it.

 

[unnamedmike]

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Hi nore !
As Mahakala sayd, the thh*oaxaca/bshwseeds are Surreal f2, great daytime stuff, "best day ever" in a pot from the master mahakala. Bshw*lilly is my cross, 9 males against a selected Lilly cut, awesome taste and scents to pineapple in the Lilly side. Im happy to see this seeds around xD