Original Haze hybrids and psychohaze phenotypes

[MAHA KALA]

Nice! She needs to meet mr. shine! I also think you should hit up something like f13 or flo with mr. shine.
Anywat just really impressed with your male Tom hill haze.

thanks for comment. we will see how it will smoke, I have more of these sativa phenos and one really stinky indica pheno. other indica phenos are just okay in smell.

yeah I have f13 seeds prepared. but after experience with f13haze from elanius, which was a lot of mutants... I decided to try diesel x f13... no mutants and extremely strong plants with good stretch. loud smelling. I dream about pheno which reeks fuel and smoke like good f13, so like mdma...

how good f13 should smoke:

F-13 superkeeper - rainbow flo. Long lasting, 4 -5 hour MDMA like high - clear, conversational, dancey, energetic, aphrodisiac, hilarity inducing, all round cosmic wonder. Last hour gives way to a lovely chilled euphoria. Flavour is too complex to give justice to, but here goes, heady christmas spice, fermented berries, leather, skunk, incense, wet earth, rose, anise, tobacco, coffee, hot sex ....its all there, utterly intoxicating, erotic and pungent as hell. You cant keep this one concealed - it will leave a thick rainbow coloured trail of stink where ever you go. Was nick named "thai-agra" for good reason

so theoretically fuel haze is in working... but if it will smoke like diesel then I will not use it for sure... from my experience with same cut of diesel hit with bangi haze, where bangi haze sucked all the body and stone effects from it, I am positive that f13 male can do that with diesel too. let see.

my juicy woo(my version of blue haze with mr shine) contains flo. namely flo 91 mother... I will test it this season hopefully... about selection of mother for juicy woo. I got one pheno which was something between flo and f13, but I chose juicy fruit smelling one as it packs some punch. thaish punch and I found such raw power unusual for blue line. and it perfectly fits to this concept to cross mr. shine with thai hybrids...I hope that mr. shine will awake thai in it. let test it!
I already made blue haze in my life. it is called blue monkey(otm x monkey haze). so I can tell you that metallic terps combine with blue terps just great... it gave the taste, which I can describe as cosmic taste for lack of words...

this is mother of juicy woo.

 

[MAHA KALA]

list of crosses with Mr. Shine:

tropical boogie
grandfunk
juicy woo
mindblower
surrealV2

blue monkey:

 

[MallardDuck]

What makes f-13 a special variety? I have heard it brought up quite a bit as a plant to hold up as possibly the peak of DJ's work, but Im not sure why that is exactly. The most Thai of DJ's stuff? Anyways Im sure if it caught your eye Maha there is some reason you think it will be a good cross with Mr Shine. Also what is Flo 91? is that a cut of Flow or a cross? I really like "Blue Haze", I know people got tired of Blue Dream when it was popular and it was fashionable to hate it... but I loved it. Mostly sativa with haze mmmm. Way better than the Kushes that were everywhere, maybe a Sweettooth or Grapefruit would show up occasionally but pretty much all couchlock kush, all the time in my area of Canada in the mid 2000's.

Excited to see the next gen of Mr Shine crosses. Fun to see these plants grown out.

 

[MAHA KALA]

no, I dont think it is most thai, I think DJ said it is oaxacan leaning... it is flo 91 x blueberry. flo 91 mother is mother which DJ Short keeps. blue haze is too wide term... we have hgf blue haze here, which is indica dom though. and DJ Short also has his version, azure haze. and Legends seeds had johny blaze(nevilles haze x blueberry)... it is not so popular among haze lovers so much. as when you cross it with haze, haze gets more gentle, refined and less trippy. it looses that wow kick and electrifying affection.

it happened to me too, I thought monkey haze male(deep chunk x toms haze) will bring more up and racy traits to effect and makes it more ride, roller coaster effect and trippy effect, but opposite was true, otm made haze more gentle. nice uppy and euphoric weed. but without that haze kick. and that otm cut we have here, has oaxacan high first hour, then it settles to relaxing body effect. it has magic high, dont know how to describe it. really exceptional cut, but it doesn't work how I wanted... nevertheless many people liked blue monkey, especially girls...

f13 or any other thing from DJ is special. it is great breeding tool. I really like f13haze from elanius. like I said, high is like mdma. so maybe that's what makes it special. special kind of euphoria... so great and I heard there are racy phenotypes, I have to explore it more, as racy plant from blue genes is something unusual for me - so another reason why it is special maybe? haze gives f13haze more legs, but at f13haze elanius used euphoric one, not racy one. but again it is less trippy than haze itself. no jittery or any uneasy feelings.. not racy etc.. it makes haze more friendly.

so with my juicy woo, the goal is to avoid refining haze and make some blue haze with kick. dont know if it was successful yet. I dont want it to be classic blue haze. I want it to be thaish in effect... we will see... I will know it at summer. hope other guys who have it will not sleep on it.

about thai in DJ Short gear. there is mainly chocolate thai. in flo and flo is mother of blueberry too. and another thai he used was juicy fruit thai, he crossed it with afghan and takes it to F3, F4 and called it blue moonshine. there are indica phenos, but also sativa phenos of it... my juicy woo mother is similar recipe as F13, but instead of blueberry father, father is blue moonshine x blueberry. and what DJ Short says about juicy fruit thai? look at it:

Highland Thai was among the absolute sweetest and fruitiest herb on the planet. The delicate, sticky Sativa buds so efficiently tied to the little sticks were among the finest of herb.

The Highland Thai, I believe, is at least partially where the Haze variety originated.

This stuff was purely cerebral, yet mentally devastating in quantity, with absolutely no ceiling. Once, a seasoned smoker friend and I tested how far we could go with the homegrown Juicy Fruit. I recall making it to the 14th bong hit and being completely incapable of continuing. My coordination and depth perception were so skewed that I was unable to physically conquer the bong! The experience rivaled that of taking too much LSD, causing an incapacitation of the psychedelic kind. Yet, it was also uniquely enjoyable, entertaining and educational at the same time. I had sparkly eyes for a day or two afterward.

The aroma was a super-sweet fruity tropical punch and the flavor expressed itself both in the bud and the smoke.


interesting note about haze isnt it? hope I explained the concept of juicy woo a little bit. it has to be tested yet.

 

[MallardDuck]

As much as I I sort of like the idea of actually "trippy" weed, if I am honest with myself I think I prefer more euphoric types. But maybe I have never smoked trippy weed that made me uncomfortable since I was a kid. I used to love tripping on psychedelics but when I turned about 25 something changed in either my mental state or brain chemistry or both and they no longer felt enlightening or fun, just scary and uncomfortable. MDMA was my favorite but again it messed with my brain chemistry so I stopped... but f13haze sounds really nice. I forgot that there was Oaxacan in blue lines... I still love Mexican genetics the most from what i have sampled I think, that euphoria is really hard to beat for me and I am a sucker for the woody smells mixed in the scent of my cannabis.

I embrace my feminine blue strain love.

 

[Sub24ox7]

The first time my wife and I ate a good amount of rso it was f13. We didn’t pay attention to the warning to only eat so much. Well.. i went from painkilling to having pain lol idk and nausea lol too much! But my wife at too much too just half as much and she was straight tripping. She said and I quote “it felt like I was in somebody else’s head looking out like in the movie being John malkovich lol. So.. definitely trippy.

 

[MAHA KALA]

As much as I I sort of like the idea of actually "trippy" weed, if I am honest with myself I think I prefer more euphoric types. But maybe I have never smoked trippy weed that made me uncomfortable since I was a kid. I used to love tripping on psychedelics but when I turned about 25 something changed in either my mental state or brain chemistry or both and they no longer felt enlightening or fun, just scary and uncomfortable. MDMA was my favorite but again it messed with my brain chemistry so I stopped... but f13haze sounds really nice. I forgot that there was Oaxacan in blue lines... I still love Mexican genetics the most from what i have sampled I think, that euphoria is really hard to beat for me and I am a sucker for the woody smells mixed in the scent of my cannabis.

I embrace my feminine blue strain love.

yeah effect of f13haze really reminds me mdma. but it is better as it is cannabis right also without loving somebody aggressively.
yes, then oaxacans are for you. haze is different or.. can be similar. it depends on phenotype... and mr. shine is not mexcian dom one for sure. he is crazy and rough one. and yes he puts out some scary ones. here and there. mindblower is not definitely built up as euphoric, relaxing, feeling fine weed. no it should shake your soul and blows your mind out. I dont think it lets you uninspired. hehehe.

about name for mindblower. I like to listen to song "blows your brain out" and song begins with short dialog between some guy I dont know and that other guy is Maceo Parker for sure. and that unknow guy is asking Maceo: "this fucker is 9 minutes long?" and Maceo answers: " yes, long enough to blow your brain out..."

so I listened to it one day and at that same day I gave one guy some seeds and I warned him as it is long flowering. he asked in same way. "this thing is 13 weeks long?" question accompanied with some kind of pain LOL and I said yes, long enough to blow your mind out LOL

one note. blue dream is commercial. I dont know it much, but f13haze would not succeed commercially at all. airy buds.. very sativa. big big stretch... elanius used extreme narrow leaf male. I really like euphoric feelings from blue line, but euphoric properties of toms haze that is another level imo. I dont want juicy woo to be second blue dream. blue dream exists and people like it and that is nice. but I want new forms, not something similar to typical blue haze.

cheers.

 

[MAHA KALA]

The first time my wife and I ate a good amount of rso it was f13. We didn’t pay attention to the warning to only rate so much. Well.. i went from painkilling to having pain lol idk and nausea lol too much! But my wife at too much too just half as much and she was straight tripping. She said and I quote “it felt like I was in somebody else’s head looking out like in the movie being John malkovich lol. So.. definitely trippy.

hehe well eating is different level than smoking. another way to fuck up tolerance right? to eat it...

 

[Sub24ox7]

Sigh,... it totally ruins smoking. You will never get high again lol. I quit taking it orally now, just vaping now.

 

[MAHA KALA]

. But maybe I have never smoked trippy weed that made me uncomfortable since I was a kid.

I got cut of paki thai, I personally think it is blue paki kush x chocolate thai. but cant prove it somehow. it is only speculation... I got it from crew who are lovers of crashing devastating heavy trippy herb... their other favorites are Jack, Nebula or super lemon haze x destroyer... they run cuts of it. high yielding cuts. they are weird, they didnt want to tell me what is and I had to talk very positive about it and how good it is LOL and at every chance when I met them, and I was probably annoying enough so they shared cut with me. two cuts of it. that other was practically same, except it was less branching, but taste and effect very same, very uniform. I asked them for SLH x destroyer too, but they refused LOL

I like paki thai, it is strong and intensive, strong elevating feeling from start. and so strong . of course it is not complex like haze, but many sativas are not so complex, and it had crashing end of effect. they like it when herb is trippy and heavy head first and then sinks to heavy narcotic buzz, after 3 hours it is crashing you. thats what they like LOL. all their cuts smoke like this.. it is such kind of people, they are hardcore and free style. doing all those adrenaline things... but mr. shine makes it more cerebral and less crashing, dont worry.

 

[Sub24ox7]

Tropical boogie #3 just about done. Going to chop tomorrow I think, lol the trichomes heads just keep swelling so we will see but very soon! Need to learn/get patience to take better photos it really is just full o resin.

 

[Sub24ox7]

Ok let’s see a quick update(all phenos almost done).
From top to bottom pics are:
tb#1
tb#1
tb#1
tb#7
tb#6
All plants purpled up a lot in the end except #3 which is only hinting at purple on some calyxes barely. Temps were cooler 74 degrees in the day and 65 at night.

 

[TexasTea]

What a great thread. Some interesting insights for sure, and bud porn to die for, hehe...
I'm looking forward to some fun times ahead!

 

[midwestkid]

Gonna have to start my tropical boogie and juicy woo and start adding to the conversation

MAHA KALA. What do you think the odds are of pulling a good breeder male out of your works?
which cross would you be searching in?

 

[LostTribe]

What a great thread. Some interesting insights for sure, and bud porn to die for, hehe...
I'm looking forward to some fun times ahead!

What is the juicy woo?

 

[MAHA KALA]

Ok let’s see a quick update(all phenos almost done).
From top to bottom pics are:
tb#1
tb#1
tb#1
tb#7
tb#6
All plants purpled up a lot in the end except #3 which is only hinting at purple on some calyxes barely. Temps were cooler 74 degrees in the day and 65 at night.

lovely lovely

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bB8OPMAQq4

 

[MAHA KALA]

Gonna have to start my tropical boogie and juicy woo and start adding to the conversation

MAHA KALA. What do you think the odds are of pulling a good breeder male out of your works?
which cross would you be searching in?

all are great. best results you will get when you will take it to F3... these are all high end hybrids. their magic is in first generation genes combination.

 

[TexasTea]

I only have room for two plants coming up, so I stuck two Tropical Boogie beans in the dirt this morning.

 

[midwestkid]

all are great. best results you will get when you will take it to F3... these are all high end hybrids. their magic is in first generation genes combination.

MAHA KALA
when you get a bit of spare time could you elaborate a little further? I believe I understand the ratios that occur within F1s. Then F2s are suppose to segregate right? What happens at F3?

Sub24ox7
that tropical boogie looks dangerous. Well done

 

[midwestkid]

LostTribe check post #881 for Juicy Woo description