Bennythejet
Member
can anyone help me with my last question on page 53. i just need a little help with an overview on organics
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theFLINTSTONERS
Member
hello again everyone . . .
looks like we'll be going on another one of our "migrations" . . . and will likely be quite scarce for the foreseable future . . . we've even been placed in a situation where we can't even grow anymore . . . so there have been more losses than we'd even care to discuss . . .
there's likely some "shaking up" that's going to be done . . . and when it's all said and done . . . the three_little_birds will no longer be three . . .
so it's a time for mourning some personal losses . . . a time for reconsidering our future . . . and our role in the cannabis community . . .
thanks to all friends . . . past and present . . .
looks like we'll be going on another one of our "migrations" . . . and will likely be quite scarce for the foreseable future . . . we've even been placed in a situation where we can't even grow anymore . . . so there have been more losses than we'd even care to discuss . . .
there's likely some "shaking up" that's going to be done . . . and when it's all said and done . . . the three_little_birds will no longer be three . . .
so it's a time for mourning some personal losses . . . a time for reconsidering our future . . . and our role in the cannabis community . . .
thanks to all friends . . . past and present . . .
V
vonforne
Until the next time Birds......we will leave the light on for you.
V
V
ThaiPhoon
Active member
Hi, I found some pretty interesting ancient organic tea recipes.
The entire pdf is available here:
http://www.agri-history.org/pdf/Organic_tea.pdf
Sasyagavya
The first preparation was Sasyagavya (sasya = plant product; gavya = obtained from cow) wherein all the weeds
were chopped and fermented in water along with cow dung and mixed well by continuous stirring. This was
prepared in four days and strained through an aluminium strainer, which was also a scrap in the tea garden till
then. The well-strained liquid was used for drenching the soil near the tea bushes. Considering the manurial
requirements of about eighty acres (32.4 ha) of the tea estate, various preparations using many ‘wastes’ were
developed. Hence, all types of purchases of any type of organic manures, insecticides, growth promoters, etc.
from the market were banned. This surprised my host. But he did respond positively to this proposal.
Dhanyagavya
A major surprise was the preparation of liquid silica from rice husk. This was made by fermenting rice husk in
cow urine, and rice husk in cow dung and water separately for one month and strained later. Proper care was
taken to stir the contents well at least twice a day. Both the preparations were allowed to ferment for one month.
It was found that the strained extract had silica in liquid form. The rice husk extract in cow urine had 0.19% of
silica, whereas the extract in cow dung had 0.35% of silica in soluble form. There was a threat of fungal attack
on tea bushes at that time. Hence, this preparation(s) was used along with Sasyagavya to drench the soil. Thus
the simple farm-level method of extraction of liquid silica was developed using the Vrikshayurveda methods
and with my own reading and understanding. Later the preparation was named as Dhanyagavya.
When I started my project of Vrikshayurveda treatment for tea, I had not known much about tea bushes or their
problems. In fact, I just started by treating the tea bush as any other bush.
Chimmigavya
Fermenting chopped fern leaves in cow urine or cow dung with water was the next preparation. Both can be
used as insecticidal sprays at ten percent solution, which also act as growth promoters. In fact, the Chimmigavya
made out of cow dung and fern leaves was found to function both as manure and an insecticide. This was
successfully tried in Jia Estate for the whole season of 2004.
***
A pretty cool read, in its entirety.
The entire pdf is available here:
http://www.agri-history.org/pdf/Organic_tea.pdf
Sasyagavya
The first preparation was Sasyagavya (sasya = plant product; gavya = obtained from cow) wherein all the weeds
were chopped and fermented in water along with cow dung and mixed well by continuous stirring. This was
prepared in four days and strained through an aluminium strainer, which was also a scrap in the tea garden till
then. The well-strained liquid was used for drenching the soil near the tea bushes. Considering the manurial
requirements of about eighty acres (32.4 ha) of the tea estate, various preparations using many ‘wastes’ were
developed. Hence, all types of purchases of any type of organic manures, insecticides, growth promoters, etc.
from the market were banned. This surprised my host. But he did respond positively to this proposal.
Dhanyagavya
A major surprise was the preparation of liquid silica from rice husk. This was made by fermenting rice husk in
cow urine, and rice husk in cow dung and water separately for one month and strained later. Proper care was
taken to stir the contents well at least twice a day. Both the preparations were allowed to ferment for one month.
It was found that the strained extract had silica in liquid form. The rice husk extract in cow urine had 0.19% of
silica, whereas the extract in cow dung had 0.35% of silica in soluble form. There was a threat of fungal attack
on tea bushes at that time. Hence, this preparation(s) was used along with Sasyagavya to drench the soil. Thus
the simple farm-level method of extraction of liquid silica was developed using the Vrikshayurveda methods
and with my own reading and understanding. Later the preparation was named as Dhanyagavya.
When I started my project of Vrikshayurveda treatment for tea, I had not known much about tea bushes or their
problems. In fact, I just started by treating the tea bush as any other bush.
Chimmigavya
Fermenting chopped fern leaves in cow urine or cow dung with water was the next preparation. Both can be
used as insecticidal sprays at ten percent solution, which also act as growth promoters. In fact, the Chimmigavya
made out of cow dung and fern leaves was found to function both as manure and an insecticide. This was
successfully tried in Jia Estate for the whole season of 2004.
***
A pretty cool read, in its entirety.
V
vonforne
Damn Thai, that is a good read. I just skimmed through it now. Very interesting. Thanks for that.
V
V
ThaiPhoon
Active member
Hey V, Glad you liked that. Here is another similar one. This one is a bit hmmm, foul...especially for vegans...lol...
http://www.agri-history.org/pdf/AGRI.pdf
http://www.agri-history.org/pdf/AGRI.pdf
ThaiPhoon
Active member
I just posted something and I can't see it. Hmm. Oh well, if it doesnt show up I will post it again. This is also a good read: http://www.ecosanres.org/pdf_files/PM_Report/Chapter_10_The_usefulness_of_urine_a.pdf
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Guest
Bennythejet said:
Hey ther Bennythejet i'm currently working with a sour desiel strain i'vbeen working on for some time now, my new mix will be for a AK-47 strain i aquired from a local med club. It's also going to be for my trainwreck strain(personal strain
)
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Guest
theFLINTSTONERS said:
May your migration be a safe one..even though we never got to interact on the boards ,3LB's artical's and information have been inspirational, interesting, and fun to read.
May your roots grow deep in the earths soil to absorb earth's nutriants of life... and emerg from the ground to glesin in the shine.
ThaiPhoon
Active member
OFC Project
OFC Project
Hey OFC'ers.
I am working on a project to condense this gold mine of a thread into word document or PDF. I have copied the thread in its entirety to a word processor already. All in it is 695 pages!!
I am doing this because I want to read it all and have it available at all times! I will make the finished file available to anyone who asks.
Since I have posted stuff that has been already posted (sorry again jaykush) I don't want to have that happen again!
This thread is priceless!
OFC Project
Hey OFC'ers.
I am working on a project to condense this gold mine of a thread into word document or PDF. I have copied the thread in its entirety to a word processor already. All in it is 695 pages!!
I am doing this because I want to read it all and have it available at all times! I will make the finished file available to anyone who asks.
Since I have posted stuff that has been already posted (sorry again jaykush) I don't want to have that happen again!
This thread is priceless!
R
Relik
Hi folks, how's everyone doin'?
theFLINTSTONERS, sad to see you leave so fast... best wishes, fly high!
ThaiPhoon, this sounds like a great idea, however I have a couple questions: do you plan to just compile the thread in a PDF document, or are you going to divide it in sections, ie. "basics of organics", "amendment sources - NPK etc", "aerated compost teas", "debates"...? just a few ideas... good luck!
Peace
theFLINTSTONERS, sad to see you leave so fast... best wishes, fly high!
ThaiPhoon, this sounds like a great idea, however I have a couple questions: do you plan to just compile the thread in a PDF document, or are you going to divide it in sections, ie. "basics of organics", "amendment sources - NPK etc", "aerated compost teas", "debates"...? just a few ideas... good luck!
Peace
G
Guest
yeah.. let me get a copy to, or when it's ready thanks!
G
Guest
yo guys i got these 2 new products from, Down To Earth brand
Azomite Granular 0-0-0.2 (with minerals an trace elements)
soluble potash 0.02%
calcium 1.8%
magnesium 0.5%
chlorine 0.1% (i thought this was bad for micro's?)
cobalt 0.002%
sodium 0.01%
Humic Acid Ore 45%
2 quik Q's, whut dose, Ore 45% mean? and it says on the back of the box it will reduce the need for N supplementation by 50%, why is that?
has any1 had any experiance with these products? i was thinking of adding kelp meal ( for trace elements) and my new product, Azomit to my mix do any u guys think thats to much trace e's, ?
thanks OFC
Azomite Granular 0-0-0.2 (with minerals an trace elements)
soluble potash 0.02%
calcium 1.8%
magnesium 0.5%
chlorine 0.1% (i thought this was bad for micro's?)
cobalt 0.002%
sodium 0.01%
Humic Acid Ore 45%
2 quik Q's, whut dose, Ore 45% mean? and it says on the back of the box it will reduce the need for N supplementation by 50%, why is that?
has any1 had any experiance with these products? i was thinking of adding kelp meal ( for trace elements) and my new product, Azomit to my mix do any u guys think thats to much trace e's, ?
thanks OFC
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