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MI did you break into your hash stash while cleaning you CD rack or something?
Or did you think you where in your "what are you listening to" thread?
Bette Midler eh?
Your showing your age there buddy
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Relik
I have never tried to bend them when they needed water, it makes sense really because they would be turgid from the flow of water and nutes, I'll have to compare it to when they're wet for sure.
Great Post.
Suby
Or did you think you where in your "what are you listening to" thread?
Bette Midler eh?
Your showing your age there buddy
.Relik
I have never tried to bend them when they needed water, it makes sense really because they would be turgid from the flow of water and nutes, I'll have to compare it to when they're wet for sure.
Great Post.
Suby
emmy75
Member
hi sub
i wanted to hit on that bio magic that u caught your interest earlier.
Bio-Magic - is a dry, water-soluble plant growth bio-stimulant with beneficial (nitrogen fixing, hormone producing, and phosphorus dissolving) bacteria. Bio-Magic contains proven growth promoting substances, including humic extracts (humic acid), cold water sea kelp extract, essential amino acids, vitamins (B-complex and K), root growth factors, and sugars. Bio-Magic is used to promote growth and reduce stress in all types of plants.
Humic Acid is the most biologically active component of soil humus. In soil, humic acids reduce leaching of essential plant nutrients by chelating (organically bonding) them in the root zone. They also serve as an important carbon based food source from microorganisms vital to soil dynamics, and have a buffering effect on soil pH shifts brought about by natural and artificial factors. In plants, humic acids affect the permeability of cell wall membranes in roots, allowing more rapid absorption of nutrients essential to plant health. They also have been shown to improve plant respiration, photosynthesis, and root growth.
Cold Water Sea Kelp (Ascophylum nodosum) contains high levels of cytokinins, which are plant growth hormones normally synthesized in plant roots. Cytokinins are known to promote cell division and lateral bud development as well as delay the aging process of plant tissue. Under stress conditions (heat, drought, etc.), cytokinin production in plants is severely limited, so the application of seaweed containing cytokinins can stimulate new root and bud development.
Sucrose serves as an energy source for plants and soil microorganisms. B-complex and K vitamins are important catalysts to enzymes enhancing and driving plant growth metabolism.
Amino Acids are the building blocks of proteins and are also essential for plant metabolism. Bio-Magic contains a complex of eighteen (18) amino acids.
Proprietary beneficial bacteria in Bio-Magic include a nitrogen-fixing bacillus that makes atmospheric nitrogen available to plants, a phosphorus-dissolving bacillus that increases the availability of insoluble phosphorus in the soil, and a growth hormone-producing bacillus that stimulates root growth.
ok but at 42 bucks for 16 ounces waht a fuckin ripoff
i wanted to hit on that bio magic that u caught your interest earlier.
Bio-Magic - is a dry, water-soluble plant growth bio-stimulant with beneficial (nitrogen fixing, hormone producing, and phosphorus dissolving) bacteria. Bio-Magic contains proven growth promoting substances, including humic extracts (humic acid), cold water sea kelp extract, essential amino acids, vitamins (B-complex and K), root growth factors, and sugars. Bio-Magic is used to promote growth and reduce stress in all types of plants.
Humic Acid is the most biologically active component of soil humus. In soil, humic acids reduce leaching of essential plant nutrients by chelating (organically bonding) them in the root zone. They also serve as an important carbon based food source from microorganisms vital to soil dynamics, and have a buffering effect on soil pH shifts brought about by natural and artificial factors. In plants, humic acids affect the permeability of cell wall membranes in roots, allowing more rapid absorption of nutrients essential to plant health. They also have been shown to improve plant respiration, photosynthesis, and root growth.
Cold Water Sea Kelp (Ascophylum nodosum) contains high levels of cytokinins, which are plant growth hormones normally synthesized in plant roots. Cytokinins are known to promote cell division and lateral bud development as well as delay the aging process of plant tissue. Under stress conditions (heat, drought, etc.), cytokinin production in plants is severely limited, so the application of seaweed containing cytokinins can stimulate new root and bud development.
Sucrose serves as an energy source for plants and soil microorganisms. B-complex and K vitamins are important catalysts to enzymes enhancing and driving plant growth metabolism.
Amino Acids are the building blocks of proteins and are also essential for plant metabolism. Bio-Magic contains a complex of eighteen (18) amino acids.
Proprietary beneficial bacteria in Bio-Magic include a nitrogen-fixing bacillus that makes atmospheric nitrogen available to plants, a phosphorus-dissolving bacillus that increases the availability of insoluble phosphorus in the soil, and a growth hormone-producing bacillus that stimulates root growth.
ok but at 42 bucks for 16 ounces waht a fuckin ripoff
Damn that's pricey, sounded like a good product.
The truth is that organic nutes aren't very expensice to produce for the most part, the really good stuff is more expensive though or better yet made yourself.
More often that not organics have a universal equalizer, the fact that we have choices galore for sources of just about anything.
The trick is brewing for this stuff, how de we get it into the soil quickly enough for this damn nute hog of a plant we love.
S
The truth is that organic nutes aren't very expensice to produce for the most part, the really good stuff is more expensive though or better yet made yourself.
More often that not organics have a universal equalizer, the fact that we have choices galore for sources of just about anything.
The trick is brewing for this stuff, how de we get it into the soil quickly enough for this damn nute hog of a plant we love.
S
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Relik
I managed to get some quick shots of a couple of plants, to show some training, as we've been discussing about it lately.
I apologize for the quality, the pics ain't that great but that's the best I could do.
This is a revegged girl from the end of last year, and has been through different techniques. You can see the main stem has grown with an angle of about 45°, this was the initial tying down. Then there is a change in the angle of the stem, it grows almost horizontal. This is the result of stem snapping (supercropping) as explained in my previous post.
Same plant, from above:
This is a side view of the plant, outdoor scrog without the screen, if I dare call it like that.
Now this is a plant that is growing in the back of my yard, it sprouted alone and I've let it grow with minimal care. It doesn't receive much sunlight (about 5 hours/day) and was tall and skinny before bushing up (the bush shape is the result of some pruning). When the main stem was still soft, and about 20cm high, I made a knot with it. Sounds crazy, I know, but I wanted to see how it would turn up when the stem would get fatter. This is the result:
Closer view of the base of the plant:
I'll try to get some better pics by this weekend.
Cheers
I apologize for the quality, the pics ain't that great but that's the best I could do.
This is a revegged girl from the end of last year, and has been through different techniques. You can see the main stem has grown with an angle of about 45°, this was the initial tying down. Then there is a change in the angle of the stem, it grows almost horizontal. This is the result of stem snapping (supercropping) as explained in my previous post.
Same plant, from above:
This is a side view of the plant, outdoor scrog without the screen, if I dare call it like that.
Now this is a plant that is growing in the back of my yard, it sprouted alone and I've let it grow with minimal care. It doesn't receive much sunlight (about 5 hours/day) and was tall and skinny before bushing up (the bush shape is the result of some pruning). When the main stem was still soft, and about 20cm high, I made a knot with it. Sounds crazy, I know, but I wanted to see how it would turn up when the stem would get fatter. This is the result:
Closer view of the base of the plant:
I'll try to get some better pics by this weekend.
Cheers
G
Guest
That Bio Magic sounds pretty much like LK; good stuff but Suby's right, organics for the most part are inexpensive comparatively. I always find it useful to keep something infected with our favorite little organisms even if it's just a bucket with a HOB fish filter and some food. I then only have to wring out some of the sponge filter into the new media or whatever and they start taking off.
I have bad luck with snapping herds, last 2 times I did it on mj - hermie.
Is there anyway to lessen risk of over stressing when using dramatic growth controls?
J.
I have bad luck with snapping herds, last 2 times I did it on mj - hermie.
Is there anyway to lessen risk of over stressing when using dramatic growth controls?
J.
Those pics where pretty good Relik, looks like a niceplot of land to be breaking the law lol.
A knot huh,
your a crazy fucker my friend but it's a fun plant to tinker with no doubt.
How does flowering occur in your neck of the woods, do the light hours cut down enough for a good flowering?
Pyrex I've never had hermies from suppercropping a good genetic, where the seeds bagseed??
A knot huh,
your a crazy fucker my friend but it's a fun plant to tinker with no doubt.How does flowering occur in your neck of the woods, do the light hours cut down enough for a good flowering?
Pyrex I've never had hermies from suppercropping a good genetic, where the seeds bagseed??
G
Guest
Suby, indeed they were. Of all the things to procrastinate, I procrastinate good genetics BUT I will getting some good seeds next round. What actually happened is I placed an order somewhere and typed in the wrong security code (it is my card - mistype) and it got cancelled. By that time seeds would be too late for me to get a good long season in. I did find a bag that is from a fellow growers personal and there were 5 seeds in 20grams. Anyway, those will be my plants for now.
Sorry, didn't mean any hijacking...............
J.
Sorry, didn't mean any hijacking...............
J.
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Relik
Hi Pyrex! Welcome aboard! I've had hermies with and without supercropping, so I couldn't say this was the main reason, as it happened just a few times. And it was occasional male flowers poppin', not a whole hermie.
Suby, I know the knot was sick but I wanted to see how far I could push the torture with a plant. In the name of, uh, science, you know...
Days are shortening here, as you can see on the pics (or maybe you can't) the supercropped plant is starting to flower, but the rest of the garden (not pictured) is a bit less photosensitive. But I think that in 2-3 weeks I'll be able to say that all plants are blooming.
I could have more of them if I didn't have a neighbor located uphill, he can see part of my garden (my "regular plants" garden of course), but it's still a nice spot with lots of sun exposure. However the weather at this time of the year (transition from summer to winter, our "autumn") is sometimes difficult to manage, it can start as a very hot sunny day and a few hours later it rains a shitload, then tons of heavy sun, rain, etc... which can be critical if you have some early flowering plants (which are usually almost ready by end of February). Quite annoying, because if you want early bud in the season, there is a high risk of losing part of your crop.
Suby, I know the knot was sick but I wanted to see how far I could push the torture with a plant. In the name of, uh, science, you know...
Days are shortening here, as you can see on the pics (or maybe you can't) the supercropped plant is starting to flower, but the rest of the garden (not pictured) is a bit less photosensitive. But I think that in 2-3 weeks I'll be able to say that all plants are blooming.
I could have more of them if I didn't have a neighbor located uphill, he can see part of my garden (my "regular plants" garden of course), but it's still a nice spot with lots of sun exposure. However the weather at this time of the year (transition from summer to winter, our "autumn") is sometimes difficult to manage, it can start as a very hot sunny day and a few hours later it rains a shitload, then tons of heavy sun, rain, etc... which can be critical if you have some early flowering plants (which are usually almost ready by end of February). Quite annoying, because if you want early bud in the season, there is a high risk of losing part of your crop.
Relik
That's what i love about outdoors, there are extra factors that make it more involved and much more planned than an indoor grow, I have great respect for people who have beautiful gardens outdoors.
Keep us posted with more pics.
BudZad7
The look really good, that looks like a perfect shade of green and they look well fed.
I'm assuming your giving very light teas or plain water which are both great.
Love those fat indica leaves, I miss growing Indicas, they don't look stretchy a all and this under fluros, I love fluros they are underated as a good source of lighting during veg.
Peace
Suby
PS my back is much better, my accupuncturist is a miracle worker, grow ops soon to be up and ready.
That's what i love about outdoors, there are extra factors that make it more involved and much more planned than an indoor grow, I have great respect for people who have beautiful gardens outdoors.
Keep us posted with more pics.
BudZad7
The look really good, that looks like a perfect shade of green and they look well fed.
I'm assuming your giving very light teas or plain water which are both great.
Love those fat indica leaves, I miss growing Indicas, they don't look stretchy a all and this under fluros, I love fluros they are underated as a good source of lighting during veg.
Peace
Suby
PS my back is much better, my accupuncturist is a miracle worker, grow ops soon to be up and ready.
the protege
Member
suby, your soil tips have helped my soil a lot! I have 5 SD IBL's sprouted, and they all look beautiful! Now, I will be starting 'the blubonic' in a couple days!! The soil drys out rather quickly, but the plants have already sent runners all around the sides of the containers!
I am very excited!! Thanks for the help.
I am very excited!! Thanks for the help.
Hello all,
I use 26w cfl's @ 6400K I purchased online. They came packaged in a plastic sleve in a cardboard box...very well protected.
Anyway I bought 8 bulbs and a 250w hos for less then 6 26w 6200K cfls at wallyworld and HD including the shipping. 1000bulbs.com
They are very bright and work well in my box.
minds_I
I use 26w cfl's @ 6400K I purchased online. They came packaged in a plastic sleve in a cardboard box...very well protected.
Anyway I bought 8 bulbs and a 250w hos for less then 6 26w 6200K cfls at wallyworld and HD including the shipping. 1000bulbs.com
They are very bright and work well in my box.
minds_I
Hey guys, sorry I've been away, this shit with my back is making me tired and I now have a backlog of work...
B1 nice to see you here at the OFC, we've missed you man
I was all about HID's until I set myself up with 4 rows of 24" neon bulbs, I mix daylight with cool white and they are great for seedlings, clones, mother plants, or even vegging your plants before putting them under HID's for flowering.
I look at it this way, you flower a typical grow for ~60 days, that gives me 60 days to root clones and veg them, even if they grow slower under fluros they have plenty of time to veg properly in 60 days even with training.
Another plus is that they produce ALOT less heat which in a closet grow is ALWAYS a factor, right now I have my mother plant and clones under my fluros and I've turned all ventilation off and they are doing fine, temps are steady at 75 for by basement setup.
Protege my Man
I'm glad my help paid off, yes that mix with 30% perlite dries out fast but shorter wet/dry cycles are to your advantage to a certain point, they will create an environment where the plant's roots will actively fill the pot quickly in search of moisture, plus it lets you tailor your feeding in flowering better.
Post pics if you can.
MI glad to see you here, that looks like a nice clean setup, I loved the way you framed the lights with drywall cornering, a McGuiverism if I've ever seen one
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Peace All
Suby
B1 nice to see you here at the OFC, we've missed you man
I was all about HID's until I set myself up with 4 rows of 24" neon bulbs, I mix daylight with cool white and they are great for seedlings, clones, mother plants, or even vegging your plants before putting them under HID's for flowering.
I look at it this way, you flower a typical grow for ~60 days, that gives me 60 days to root clones and veg them, even if they grow slower under fluros they have plenty of time to veg properly in 60 days even with training.
Another plus is that they produce ALOT less heat which in a closet grow is ALWAYS a factor, right now I have my mother plant and clones under my fluros and I've turned all ventilation off and they are doing fine, temps are steady at 75 for by basement setup.
Protege my Man
I'm glad my help paid off, yes that mix with 30% perlite dries out fast but shorter wet/dry cycles are to your advantage to a certain point, they will create an environment where the plant's roots will actively fill the pot quickly in search of moisture, plus it lets you tailor your feeding in flowering better.
Post pics if you can.
MI glad to see you here, that looks like a nice clean setup, I loved the way you framed the lights with drywall cornering, a McGuiverism if I've ever seen one
.Peace All
Suby
Pyrex said:
Hey P, I missed this post somehow...
No worries man all the members of the OFC actively hijack the thread, this is a space where any discussion is allowed albeit civilized...well as civilized as it gets with a bunch of stoned growers
Bagseed is often a poor seed choice for SC tecniques, it stresses them and often those seeds are the product of plants that hermied to begin with which produces unstable genetics, I only use bagseed outdoors untrained, that's why I love clones lol.
Peace and keep us posted.
S
suby, fellow growers, what a disgraced section! no stickies or mods to speak of?? are yall runnin amuck??? & wow 36 pages tahts a hefty read!! but ill be reading to catch up!! TAG LOL
