Oldtimer's Haze

[CodyPomeray]

When will you be attempting it? Going to see how they veg out and maybe il just clone down the entire run and flower out some clones and keep some as mothers. So, madmac in the other haze thread said going from seed adds a week or two to flower. Dubi has said the same, only without specifics on time. How much longer would I be adding in flower to flip the seeds instead of clones?

Wondering if its wise to just run the seeds into flower, or spend the time rooting clones and growing them out. Almost seems similar times taken.

I know dubi also said that clones are alot easier to manage in flower, so there is also that.

Decisions decisions. As of right now 3 oth poking through the soil, bout 9 durban. So happy.

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

I’m trying to weigh a bit more maturing of the flowers vs. the battle of botrytis. I’ll keep you posted to what I ultimately end up doing. Re: clones, I’ve heard the same...about two weeks shorter. Dubi recommends rooted clone veg for about a week and then flip. Much easier to manage that vs. a plant from seed that has branched out everywhere while reaching sexual maturity.

 

[Sativied]

How much longer would I be adding in flower to flip the seeds instead of clones?

Depending on how much space you got and the type of light you’re using, I’d veg them till they roughly have 6 nodes and preferably show a couple of preflowers. If you flip it before that, the plants will still have to get to that same point of maturity before it can start flowering but they’d do so under a lighting schedule that actually causes more elongation. Taking cuttings from it early would still have the same effect but less noticeable because they got to be rooted first anyway.

Either way they will get large from seed, with the help of a few wires and/or bending the stems you can get more control and it makes the oth a great plant to fill a space.

 

[CodyPomeray]

24 OTH out of the soil brothas and sistas. SO STOKED. I had doubts for some reason but, a plant is a plant. Not doubts in the seeds just this is a semi important one too me and figured if anything could go wrong it would. Battle just started but off to a great start so far.

25 Durban sprouts from cbg next to it, Il stop spamming this thread with updates on the durbans, but yeah. Beyond happy.

I have more OTH seeds to run through later this year, so still in the planning stages of how to pheno hunt this right and keep genetics properly. Lots to think about, seat of the pants as always.

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

Looking forward to the adventure!!

 

[JohnnyChicago]

I would clone them all, flower all the seed plants and then replace the phenos that take forever to start flowering with their clones.

 

[CodyPomeray]

7 days in. 28/30 sprouts, cant complain at all, if anything better than I was expecting. I was at least hoping to get 18 sprouts from this batch and aim to get 5-8 males and 10 females, so we are still well able to do this. Stoked...beyond.

OTH in the unmarked on the left, Durban from CBG in the marked on the right.

They are all a bit long, but I purposefully stretched them so I could top dress this very very weak blend I pop seeds in. Also didnt want to nuke them as babies so kept the lights up a bit higher than normal.

 

[elanius]

great project, I recommend you to grow them on 16/8 period, even lower if you want. It will make them go faster towards sexual maturity, which is a need before you take the clones for flowering. (I assume that you did not even think to flower the seedplants ) Otherwise they will stretch to eternity and take forever to flower. Thanks for sharing

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

Looking great

 

[baduy]

Oldtimer's Haze by 43N outdoor. made a homemade scrappy greenhouse as weather can be harsh here in Nov/December but I think she's almost done now, sure less productive and more leafy than if she was in pot in a controlled environment but I love her subtle fragrance, ginger, pepper, incense are what come first to mind with some kind of faint mango flavour and something hard to describe, like old saffron pistils . Buds didn't beef up much with the low temperatures but give some good resin sticky to the touch. I think I will give her another week or two if weather allows it

 

[hubcap]

Nice, baduy!


Should be cured in time to enjoy them next Christmas.



I keeed, I keed.


looks great. let us know how it burns when you get to it?


-cap

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

Delicious green pheno baduy. That’s going to be an excellent smoke.

 

[kamyo]

Currently germinating a few of these to start the new year. Looks like they're taking a while, but I'm hopeful they'll pop.

Edit: 1 of 4 popped

 

[SolarLogos]

Oldtimer's Haze by 43N outdoor. made a homemade scrappy greenhouse as weather can be harsh here in Nov/December but I think she's almost done now, sure less productive and more leafy than if she was in pot in a controlled environment but I love her subtle fragrance, ginger, pepper, incense are what come first to mind with some kind of faint mango flavour and something hard to describe, like old saffron pistils . Buds didn't beef up much with the low temperatures but give some good resin sticky to the touch. I think I will give her another week or two if weather allows it
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She is a thing of beauty isn't she? She is practically dripping with resin. You almost have to make a little dry sift out of that! Looking forward to a smoke report in due time.
Nice job and great photography as well.
SL

 

[baduy]

Thanks for the nice comments
I must add there is a manure pile heating just next to her feet so she gets a few extra degrees makes for high humidity in the morning when I open the plastic curtain and I gave 2 or 3 buds in offering to the grey mold spirit (not something to try with fat indica plants unless you got a proper ventilation unlike me)not a big deal and I don't think I could have brought her this far in the season without that, especially this year when we had several heavy storms and torrential rains since very early in October till to this day. I'm happy I kept a clone for further experiments and pollinated her with my best OTH male as I now only have one seed left from the original pack

 

[CodyPomeray]

Doing okay so far, few issues here and there. Not sure how far to keep away these QB320's from them, so probably stretching them farther than I should. The durbans next to them arent stretching as much so maybe its just a thing with the OTH.

Started training them slightly this week to contain their height a bit.

Room they are in has had a very cold floor the last week, fixed it today with a piece of plywood airgapped from the ground. Hope to have the soil temp increase help them get through their slight issues.

Havent fed them much, and the dirt they went in was extremely light in food so much so it usually starves the plants that go into it within a week or two, but still showing a bit of burning on the tips.

Top dressed some EWC and will water it in tomorrow, trying to let them dry out as best as I can.

What PH range does OTH like? They are going into organic soil but for now they are in a very light mix of perilite peat moss and coco with some ewc and a very slight amount of my normal dirt.

OTH in the unmarked, non taped pots, durban from CBG in the blue taped ones.

 

[LostTribe]

Well don't mind if I do! Its a Fantastic ride!

 

[tcherno]

CodyPomeray

IT'S MAGICAL, I think this thread's going to be very popular.

I plan to enjoy every pheno, as long as you get purple pheno.

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

What seed stock is that from Cody? I think dubi said most recent OTH seeds are from open pollination of primarily green phenos. I have a few of those from recent stock but still have some old seed stock squirrels away. Definitely find purple phenos in the older gear. I can’t wait to see how things turn out. I have one OTH currently above soil along with a purple Malawi. Good luck!

 

[CodyPomeray]

I got it from attitude, and from ace themselves. Will get some pics up soon, had to deal with oral surgury this week, finally got some teeth out and replaced from a bad accident this year. That threw me through a loop.

Had slight issues with the OTH the last id say 9 days. Around 9 days ago I noticed what I thought was an N issue, but I now believe was onset of P deficiency. Had some leaves die off with browning, which I believe was due to not transplanting fast enough. I read multiple places to keep them in small containers and stunted. Well as I was worried about frying the little guys from birth, I had made a very very cut down version of my already cut down veg dirt.

This dirt provided nothing to the plants at all, it was mostly coco, peat moss, perilite, and some slight organic matter, nothing fancy. I think from training the plants as much as I did, it caused them to demand alot from the already barren soil, and this started throwing things out of wack.

Have stuff transplanted up into 1g pots as of now, got them all trimmed back and looking alot healthier. Will be taking clones in the coming week and going from there. These plants are a treat to work with though, I must say.

Nothing like anything else I have messed around with. Really need to listen to them and let them grow like they desire. Love it.

The post sounds grim but it isnt as bad as it sounds. Ganja can take so much and come baxck stronger than ever, and I know these will do the same.