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dubi

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Welcome xtsho :)

Congrats on your success taming the beast indoors, really good results!
That fatty cola is a sign that you really understood what cares and conditions she needed for a proper indoor flowering.
How many weeks is she into flowering ?
 

baduy

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Really fat and stocky Xtsho, please bring some updates on your progress it looks really good.
OTHaze outdoor. Depending on the weather I may build a disposable greenhouse for her in December to make life easier for her.
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xtsho

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Welcome xtsho :)

Congrats on your success taming the beast indoors, really good results!
That fatty cola is a sign that you really understood what cares and conditions she needed for a proper indoor flowering.
How many weeks is she into flowering ?

Yes she's been a handful. I can only imagine how big OTH can get. Unfortunately where I live "Oregon United States" weather doesn't allow for growing these outdoors until completion.

The plant was outdoors until a month ago. It had gotten really tall in a small pot so I replanted it into a three gallon pot of Ocean Forest. It was nice and green until I brought it inside under the HPS then the flowering went in to overdrive and That's where I am now. I probably could have fed it better but I'd rather under feed than over feed.

As for the flowering time. It started flowering outdoors under natural light sometime in early August. So probably 9 - 11 weeks. It looks like it has 6 -8 weeks more so my patience is going to be tested.

I really like what you guys are putting out. I have about half of ACE offerings. I've really enjoyed the PCK and the Panama. I haven't had the chance to grow out anything else. I did make a cross of the PCK and Panama and have a couple of those about ready to come down.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to the Oldtimers Haze finishing.
 

Ur Humbl Nr8tor

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Great to go back through and get caught up on the OTH thread. I am looking to start a few of these along with Seedsman OHaze and select a few plants for outdoors next year. Currently finishing GOTH x MT and POTH x MT outdoors.
 

SonicNurse92

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Hola Dubi y amigos :tiphat: les presento a mis 5 Oldtimer's, tienen 3 semanas desde que nacieron y las cambiaré a 1 litro el fin de semana. Estarán en interior y armaré unos paneles con chips Luminus CXM22 para ver que tal me va. Antes de ponerlas a florecer vendré con fotos.

Saludos :dance013:

SN92
 

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SolarLogos

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Here is one of my OTH in the greenhouse. The color is very interesting. Initially, she looked like she had been in a dust storm and was covered in dirt, but it's not dirt. She has been turning more grey and a couple times I had to take a second look that it wasn't mold. Now she has evolved into a silverish-blue color. Pictures don't capture the color the way the naked eye does, but you can get the idea. The backs of the leaves are not yellow, but rather they have a healthy gold/grey color to them.
I think Sam mentioned a silver blue pheno, any chance this is her? Have you seen this color Dubi?


Thanks for stopping by,
Peace, God bless
 

keptwalking

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Few packs of OTH ordered. Plan is to run them all at once indoors, organic living soil. Thinking I will start them in solo cups or equiv size containers, flip them fast, clone down the winners and push forward.

Most likely will build out a room just for them as it seems needed, nothing fancy and trying to keep it minimal as I can.

Cheers all.
 

hanfiking

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Purple haze: 26f 6m

Purple haze: 26f 6m

Who still remembers the Purple haze: 26f 6m ?

here she is, I've been breeding them in big lots weeding out the sick and broken ones, any type of deformity removed, only the healthiest get to the next generation:






 

baduy

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Green Oldtimer's Haze is starting to build up and smells of lemongrass, pepper, incense and coriander, well it smells like haze. I really like this girl, my favourite female from the pack. I just hope she will be ready for the new year cause I will have to go on a trip for several weeks and will come take her down before leaving, she seems nearly good trichome wise but still much too green and leafy. If Dubi chimes in I would be interested to know a bit more about latest haze reproduction, apparently it is mostly made with green phenos by open pollination that's all the information I could gather and green OTH is less documented than her purple sister
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musigny23

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Who still remembers the Purple haze: 26f 6m ?

here she is, I've been breeding them in big lots weeding out the sick and broken ones, any type of deformity removed, only the healthiest get to the next generation:

I remember Purple Haze! The original.

I moved to Santa Cruz CA to go to college in 1978. That's when I first came across it. It was created and produced locally. It was also the most expensive smoke in town but worth it.

Sounds like you're doing a great refine and stabilize project. I'd certainly love to get some seeds if possible. Even though it came from this area, it disappeared long ago.
 

willydread

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Green Oldtimer's Haze is starting to build up and smells of lemongrass, pepper, incense and coriander, well it smells like haze. I really like this girl, my favourite female from the pack. I just hope she will be ready for the new year cause I will have to go on a trip for several weeks and will come take her down before leaving, she seems nearly good trichome wise but still much too green and leafy. If Dubi chimes in I would be interested to know a bit more about latest haze reproduction, apparently it is mostly made with green phenos by open pollination that's all the information I could gather and green OTH is less documented than her purple sister
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Beautiful! In my little experience I preferred the green pheno to the purple ones, both as flavor and effect ... (I'm not saying green is better, I just like it more than purple)...
 

CodyPomeray

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Cant wait to start. Will run 12 OTH in the coming week or two, see if I have it right for 2-3 weeks of their life, then the plan is to push through 50 or so. Beyond excited to start this.
 

CodyPomeray

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The dirt I have premixed and cooked, I believe is a bit high in N for these guys n gals. What is a way to test this a bit before throwing the seeds in it?

Was thinking some cover crops to see if they get nuked or not, but most cover crops love N anyways so, hard to say.

I could always cut it down with some sunshine promix #4 i think I got, then topdress as needed once deficiencies show up. Thoughts?

Also, I have read about 80 pages so far, consensus seems to be go straight into the medium. Has anyone soaked in H202 solution for 6 hours, then normal RO water for 6 hours, then towel for 12 hours then into medium?

This is my preferred method but I am willing to do what I am told and just go straight into medium. Always have had less than stellar results that way for some reason.
 

SolarLogos

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The dirt I have premixed and cooked, I believe is a bit high in N for these guys n gals. What is a way to test this a bit before throwing the seeds in it?

Was thinking some cover crops to see if they get nuked or not, but most cover crops love N anyways so, hard to say.

I could always cut it down with some sunshine promix #4 i think I got, then topdress as needed once deficiencies show up. Thoughts?

Also, I have read about 80 pages so far, consensus seems to be go straight into the medium. Has anyone soaked in H202 solution for 6 hours, then normal RO water for 6 hours, then towel for 12 hours then into medium?

This is my preferred method but I am willing to do what I am told and just go straight into medium. Always have had less than stellar results that way for some reason.
It takes very little nitrogen to kill OTH when they are little. I didn't add anything to soil until I transplanted them from Solo cups to 1 gallon pots. The only amendments to soil were ewc and guano. Even commercial soil like foxfarms ocean forest can be too strong for them. I didn't feed mine liquid nutrients the 1st 8 weeks of life and then, only 350 ppm kelp (water is 134) because the summer temps were so hot. They are sensitive to pH, that is more important to them in the beginning, imho. Proper pH will help ensure that nutrients in the soil will be available to them.
It is recommended to plant the seeds into soil, rather than germinating in paper towel. The purpose of the H202 is to prevent damping off, correct? Can't hurt if your seeds are old, I never had a problem with 16 month old seeds from Ace.

Hope it helps.
SL
Here is my OTH thread. They are still in the greenhouse, both purples.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=360948
 

Ur Humbl Nr8tor

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Here is one of my OTH in the greenhouse. The color is very interesting. Initially, she looked like she had been in a dust storm and was covered in dirt, but it's not dirt. She has been turning more grey and a couple times I had to take a second look that it wasn't mold. Now she has evolved into a silverish-blue color. Pictures don't capture the color the way the naked eye does, but you can get the idea. The backs of the leaves are not yellow, but rather they have a healthy gold/grey color to them.
I think Sam mentioned a silver blue pheno, any chance this is her? Have you seen this color Dubi?

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Thanks for stopping by,
Peace, God bless

You’ve got a purple pheno SolarLogos. I’d bet she just keeps getting more purple (darker) as she goes.
 

Ur Humbl Nr8tor

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Few packs of OTH ordered. Plan is to run them all at once indoors, organic living soil. Thinking I will start them in solo cups or equiv size containers, flip them fast, clone down the winners and push forward.

Most likely will build out a room just for them as it seems needed, nothing fancy and trying to keep it minimal as I can.

Cheers all.

What’s your criterion on cloning the ‘winners’. It’s difficult to judge the quality of these plants in such an early stage in my opinion.
 

Ur Humbl Nr8tor

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Beautiful! In my little experience I preferred the green pheno to the purple ones, both as flavor and effect ... (I'm not saying green is better, I just like it more than purple)...

I think green has a much clearer haze effect. Purple is a bit heavier in the head. Introspective.
 

CodyPomeray

Member
What’s your criterion on cloning the ‘winners’. It’s difficult to judge the quality of these plants in such an early stage in my opinion.

Typed that a bit fast. So the plan would be to veg the plants out, take clones of all 50, flip the seedlings to flower and deduce which are male and female. From there I will make a 1st round culling, maybe 10 plants total at the very most. Anything that is just overall slow, not vigorous or not "pretty" in my eyes.

The remaining 40-45 plants/clones will be flowered out.

When I said clone down I meant take some of the remaining 5-10 "winner" plants and take more cuttings from the round 2 clones, "clone them down" as those will be around the 18-22 week mark I do this.

I know even then, lots of the good qualities of sativas wont come out till after a cure, so removing plants from the equation is a very selective process.

But at the end of the day, we all know the plants we want to grow, and this is how I will make my selections.
 

SolarLogos

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You’ve got a purple pheno SolarLogos. I’d bet she just keeps getting more purple (darker) as she goes.
Greetings Ur Humbl Nr8tor. Both my OTH turned out to be purple. OTH #1 will be ready soon, patience... Here she is today in the greenhouse. It's been overcast and raining here today, but staying warm in the greenhouse, RH 50-66.

OTH#1



Here is her clone in the flower room. It's hard getting good shots of calyxes with all the leaves, but at least the leaves are frosty


SL
 
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