Oldtimer's Haze

[willydread]

Beautiful plant Dubi!haze outdoor are alwais specials...I have in freezer some package of seeds,I should pull them out and let them all germinate, to have a fresh and genetically rich stock(I do not think I could have something decent to smoke at 42 degrees,but i can try )

 

[hard rain]

Here's our precious Purple Haze #23 mother still growing happily (and she still will do until autumn equinox).

She is completly green by now as the temps here in summer are between 24º-40ºC. She gets the purple colors in November/December, with the colder autumn nights.

How cold does it have to get before she shows purple? Mine only showed slight purpling and our nights get down to about minimum 8°C but often a bit warmer in the middle of winter. The joys of living in the sub tropics.

 

[dubi]

Beautiful plant Dubi!haze outdoor are alwais specials...I have in freezer some package of seeds,I should pull them out and let them all germinate, to have a fresh and genetically rich stock(I do not think I could have something decent to smoke at 42 degrees,but i can try )

Thanks willydread

If you live in a coastal climate with not very cold autumn then maybe you can finish her properly at 42º, but if your climate is more continental, you have frosts in autumn or you don't have much light intensity and hours of directly light maybe you need a greenhouse or move the hazes indoors to finish properly the flowering in their second stage of flowering.

 

[dubi]

How cold does it have to get before she shows purple? Mine only showed slight purpling and our nights get down to about minimum 8°C but often a bit warmer in the middle of winter. The joys of living in the sub tropics.

Hi hardrain,

The colors that Purple Haze gets outdoors in the second half of flowering is mainly due to cold temps, but there are other environmental factors that may also affect her to produce more intense pigmentation, like it's the case of the pink pistiled Panamas, the pink pistil trait is not so evident when Panama is grown indoors, but very evident outdoors in the red/pink phenos.

The same happens with Purple Haze, it may has also something to do with the ultraviolet and other part of the sun spectrum that current indoor lamps cannot provide to the plant.

Proper scientific studies should be done about it.
Not sure whether this has been scientifically studied and published.

 

[willydread]

Thanks Dubi,here we dont have a cold winter,usually get very cold at end of january...the problem is the rain,in late october-november its always rain!...

 

[SonicNurse92]

Hi dubi and everyone

67 days of flowering indoors, 60 days more to go i believe; the other pictures belong to her mom, 112 days of flowering outdoors and around 40 or 50 days more to go.

I'm already using overdrive (1-5-4) of AN indoors, 1ml/lt (half recommended dose). Also 1ml/lt of molasses since flowering started. Her mom is going to be watered with molasses this last 6 or 7 weeks too.

I'm going to buy something to measure PH an EC asap.

See you soon take care amigos!

 

[dubi]

Your indoor Oldtimer's Haze is looking great SonicNurse92
Very few growers have the courage or patience to grow Oldtimer's Haze indoors until the end. You have all my respect

She looks well established into flowering, now starts the most interesting part.
Best wishes for upcoming weeks of flowering!

 

[SonicNurse92]

Hola dubi y hola a todos!

Thank you for the words dubi you're the man!

84 days flowering, another 42 days more to go i guess (hope she's ready at 18 weeks), the leaves are turning yellow really fast.

Her mom is 18 weeks of flowering, but i have no pictures this time, going to chop her at 22 weeks, the winter has arrived.

take care dubi and friends

see you all soon!

 

[Mr.Revolution]

SonicNurse those need a feeding. Those leaves are too yellow at this stage

 

[Tropical Sativa]

Amazing thread guys, beautiful plants!
@dubi, thanks for all your hard work keeping this line going

 

[SonicNurse92]

Hi Mr.Revolution!

I'm using 2ml/l of AN Overdrive now, plus molasses 1ml/l. Yesterday i put a layer of humus and lamb fertilizer, 1:2 proportion. Here is the information. Hope it helps. Thanks for the advices

 

[Mr.Revolution]

Ok. No prob. Glad your on top of things. We gotta stick totogther. A successful grow for one is a success for the whole community imo. Im no expert but ill help when i can.

 

[2scoot]

3 OTHs up!

3 OTHs up!

And it begins....

 

[the_niño]

wow

 

[LowFalutin]

very fast-to-show pure green OT haze male.
first indications of maleness at 3wks of 11/13.
(seeds were started early sept.)
a few days later we have clusters.
1/2 taller than the next tallest OT plants.
thicker and "hairier" stem than the others.
may have to top this plant to let the others catch up.
(edit: the first 3 females revealed
themselves, right at 4wks of 11/13)

should i avoid breeding with this male?
too hempish?
offspring have a lower quality high?
trying to get a few good males together for pollenating
a big sur holy, gloomslayer, and a congo-leaning
congo3xkaliChina. maybe this one should be left out?

EDIT: here he is, left, with the next-tallest OT, which looks like it's indicating male
at 26days of 11/13...

EDIT: these 2 males have been topped

saludos!

 

[LowFalutin]

pure green haze squad,
at 31days of 11/13...

the two tall ones in the middle, merle (l) and earl (r),
are the only males to declare so far. the fourth
female declared today. the two plants on the right
are the only ones left to "drop their drawers".
you can really see the douglas fir side of the
genetics in merle. maybe he's loaded with pinene.

declared ladies will get up-potted as soon as they're
dry enough. was only going to go for pollen this
round, but decided to keep the ladies too...
their musky creamy aromas at this point got to me.
none seem to have the melon fruitiness of the
GHxTs i've grown.

saludos

EDIT: shortest of the remaining 2 on the right has
just declared female at 34days of 11/13, one day
short of 5wks.

EDIT 2: the last undeclared revealed female today,
at 36dys of 11/13. final: 6 females, 2 males to work with.

 

[Koondense]

Great picture!

 

[dubi]

Hi LowFalutin,

There's a more compact and faster flowering Green Haze pheno, it usually has thicker stems, and it can be done in 14-16 weeks of flowering, depending on the growing conditions, in contrast with the taller, longer flowering phenos that need 16-20+ weeks to mature properly .... cold outdoor weather in late flowering helps to avoid reflowerings and to speed up the maturation process.

Regarding male selection, i would choose the male/s with stronger terpenes and more resin production in flowering .... although final proof is always in the testing of the progeny.

All kind of males can be found (from the more compact, to the taller lankier ones, from very high yielding to the more skinny ones) as i did open pollinate many different females and males for latest Oldtimer's Haze and Green Haze releases.

You are right Green Haze x Thai was bred from a very fruity Haze/Thai female, with much more refined and brighter fruity terpenes than straight Green Haze phenos.

Best wishes with the project! Your breeding with the green side of Oldtimer's Haze and Green Haze Thais is becoming legendary after so many years of selections!

 

[LowFalutin]

...There's a more compact and faster flowering Green Haze pheno, it usually has thicker stems, and it can be done in 14-16 weeks of flowering, depending on the growing conditions, in contrast with the taller, longer flowering phenos that need 16-20+ weeks to mature properly .... cold outdoor weather in late flowering helps to avoid reflowerings and to speed up the maturation process.

Regarding male selection, i would choose the male/s with stronger terpenes and more resin production in flowering .... although final proof is always in the testing of the progeny.

All kind of males can be found (from the more compact, to the taller lankier ones, from very high yielding to the more skinny ones) as i did open pollinate many different females and males for latest Oldtimer's Haze and Green Haze releases.

sticky-level info in your post, dubi. big thanks.
i've only the 2 males, and will pollenate individual buds by
each male separately- not mix the two pollens together.

quick pics of fastest and slowest developing ladies, at 6wks of 11/13.


getting situated in their new up-potting.

stem rubs reveal faint aromas now:
citric-chalk in the slow lady, and
"the chalk" with maybe some spice
in the faster developing lady.

saludos!

EDIT: my fastest (of 2) pure green OT males began first
pollen drops at around 6wks of 11/13.

just took this pic, as it's the first pollen i've actually seen.
had a few sacs open, but no evidence of the pale yellow, 'til now.

 

[LowFalutin]

pure green OT haze

pure green OT haze

at a little over 8wks of 11/13.
the 2 main pheno/genotypes i'm seeing in the green OT haze
basically lie between these two bud structure types:
the faster, more productive, a little darker greened...

the slower, less productive, a little lighter greened...

saludos!