Oldtimer's Haze

[dubi]

Hi willydread,

Yes, tropical sativas are the easiest type of cannabis to clone and Oldtimer's Haze and its hybrids are not an exception. As rexamus616 pointed out, tropical sativas can even produce roots just placing the clone in a glass of water for a few days and replacing the water every 1-2 days, alhtough of course the use of rooting hormones and modern rooting techinques will speed up and improve the process.

 

[hard rain]

I've recently finished my second grow of OT Haze, this time a clone. I grew 12/12 for the first 3 and a half months. Went down to 11.5. This seemed to work better than 11/13 which I did previously. The plant was still putting out hairs but it was about 5-10% amber and that is how I like it.

I had forgotten how much I enjoy the high. It is great, no paranoia, energetic but relaxing at the same time. Good for anything really. Get the housework done, go for a hike or just listen to music. Great stuff.
Also have to add that this is a good smoke as soon as it is dry. I find many sativa's need a 6 month cure but not the OT Haze.

I just grow for personal and I will keep this around at least until I get a better pure sativa. I have made some crosses and although I haven't seen any male flowers on it, there have been the odd seed on parts of the plant I didn't pollinate. Could also be stray pollen.

Anyway, great pot. My only complaint is that I grew purple haze, and it only slightly purpled at 10 degrees C?

 

[hard rain]

A couple of details I forgot to add..

I harvested at 19.5 weeks. Last time it was 18.5. I know people who would go longer, but I've occasionally wrecked a sativa (NLD) by taking it too far. Buying a 60x scope has been a game changer for me.

You grow this for effect. Not smell or taste.

 

[rolandomota]

not all plants in the purple haze offspring will be purple just like any other purple strains like pck you will have green ones too

 

[rexamus616]

I had forgotten how much I enjoy the high. It is great, no paranoia, energetic but relaxing at the same time. Good for anything really. Get the housework done, go for a hike or just listen to music. Great stuff.
Also have to add that this is a good smoke as soon as it is dry. I find many sativa's need a 6 month cure but not the OT Haze.

Totally agree on the high.... although the stuff thats been sitting the longest seems a bit stronger than the fresher stuff...

But it does give you that high soon as it is dry...


And I smoke it all day, every day, and it still gets me high...

If I want to be really high, I just smoke heaps more, or gather up some of the resin thats falling off the over-dry flowers... (ive been lazy trimming and jarring it up, and its just sitting in a garbage bag.... all the lovely fallen trichome heads showing up really well on the black plastic....)

Gives quite a range of highs - from functional, to 'no-way-you-can-hide-how-absolutely-toasted-you-are'....



Smoking purple haze bong hits every morning, watching the sun rise as I milk the cows....




Living The Life.....

 

[Everhaze]

Yield?

I've recently finished my second grow of OT Haze, this time a clone. I grew 12/12 for the first 3 and a half months. Went down to 11.5. This seemed to work better than 11/13 which I did previously. The plant was still putting out hairs but it was about 5-10% amber and that is how I like it.

I had forgotten how much I enjoy the high. It is great, no paranoia, energetic but relaxing at the same time. Good for anything really. Get the housework done, go for a hike or just listen to music. Great stuff.
Also have to add that this is a good smoke as soon as it is dry. I find many sativa's need a 6 month cure but not the OT Haze.

I just grow for personal and I will keep this around at least until I get a better pure sativa. I have made some crosses and although I haven't seen any male flowers on it, there have been the odd seed on parts of the plant I didn't pollinate. Could also be stray pollen.

Anyway, great pot. My only complaint is that I grew purple haze, and it only slightly purpled at 10 degrees C?

 

[fizz]

I just joined the OTH club, but haven't popped yet. It seems there is a lot of variation. Are there any certainties in terms of feeding needs or lighting for this line? It seems like most people are saying less nitrogen, which is pretty typical for haze.

 

[dubi]

I've recently finished my second grow of OT Haze, this time a clone. I grew 12/12 for the first 3 and a half months. Went down to 11.5. This seemed to work better than 11/13 which I did previously. The plant was still putting out hairs but it was about 5-10% amber and that is how I like it.

I had forgotten how much I enjoy the high. It is great, no paranoia, energetic but relaxing at the same time. Good for anything really. Get the housework done, go for a hike or just listen to music. Great stuff.
Also have to add that this is a good smoke as soon as it is dry. I find many sativa's need a 6 month cure but not the OT Haze.

I just grow for personal and I will keep this around at least until I get a better pure sativa. I have made some crosses and although I haven't seen any male flowers on it, there have been the odd seed on parts of the plant I didn't pollinate. Could also be stray pollen.

Anyway, great pot. My only complaint is that I grew purple haze, and it only slightly purpled at 10 degrees C?

Thanks hard rain for sharing your first hand experience about Oldtimer's Haze
Glad you are enjoying her effect and that you find it suitable for many different activities during the day.

As you correctly pointed out, to grow such kind of super tropical inbred long flowering sativas like it's the case of Oldtimer's Haze, it's mainly worth for personal use of sativa lovers of this kind of genetics and/or as a breeding tool to make crosses with huge vigor and with plenty of old school sativa influence. Oldtimer's Haze is in no way a commercial strain for modern standards in terms of yield and bag appeal.

The flowering time of Oldtimer's Haze is so long that many variables (temps, photoperiod, feeding, distance from the lamp in case in indoor growing, etc ...) could affect her maturing process, producing more or less reflowerings and thus delaying more or less her final maturation.

In that sense, Oldtimer's Haze tends to have a much more regular flowering development outdoors (with slow but constant reduction of the hours of light per day) rather than indoors with more stable photoperiods, despite you used more reduced photoperiods than classic 12/12. Purple Haze shows its more intense purple/reddish pigmentation when it is grown until Xmas in non tropical latitudes around 30-40º, like it's the case of southern California or our mediterranean coast.

 

[dubi]

Yield?

Hi EverHaze,

If you have read this thread and our official description of the strain you will understand that to grow Oldtimer's Haze is not about the yield, in fact we state in our official description of the strain that the yield is low/average per m2.

 

[dubi]

I just joined the OTH club, but haven't popped yet. It seems there is a lot of variation. Are there any certainties in terms of feeding needs or lighting for this line? It seems like most people are saying less nitrogen, which is pretty typical for haze.

Welcome to the Oldtimer's Haze club fizz

Oldtimer's Haze release indeed has the original variation that Haze had in the late 70s, as we received it. This means (as we state in the description of the strain) that you will find different phenos ranging from Green Haze to Purple Haze expression and expressions inbetween.

If you are looking after just certain pheno of Oldtimer's Haze then maybe Green Haze and Purple Haze releases are more suitable for your situation as Green Haze and Purple Haze releases have been inbred for each concrete pheno, although both have more or less the same flowering time in average. Purple Haze is overall taller and has a lower yield, on the other hand it's easier to find more compact and better yielding phenos in Green Haze.

Regarding feeding for Oldtimer's Haze, we keep our pure haze parental plants in soil in our mother room and we feed them with light feedings of around 0.6-0.8 in vegetative stage, and around 1-1.3 in flowering stage. Although if you plant her outdoors directly in a rich soil and in a sunny place in a warm climate then it will grow very vigorously and without deficiencies, without need of much attentions, almost like a wild weed.

The more modern sativa/indica and indica dominant hybrids have been bred/selected to be able to accept very high levels of fertilizers, which only is good for the fertilizer company, but the true landraces and very old sativa strains need much lesser level of nutrients.

 

[willydread]

I just joined the OTH club, but haven't popped yet. It seems there is a lot of variation. Are there any certainties in terms of feeding needs or lighting for this line? It seems like most people are saying less nitrogen, which is pretty typical for haze.

Hi,in my experience,othaze(and other tropical sat) no need more ferts,my plants always start slowly, more than other hybrids and varieties,but soon they explode,i use simple universal soil,and i feed with very few organic fertilizer granules...
(I love this true sativa,but i think they are easy to grow,they need good soil,water,sun,right latitude,and more,MORE patience)

 

[willydread]

She

And them
have a same age,was planted the same day,same soil,same ferts....

 

[fizz]

Sorry if my first post sounded misleading. Just to be clear, I live for the pheno treasure hunt.. bring it on.

I'm always hunting for that perfect mix of long slender, crocodile skin, bright lime green leaves that fade to banana peel yellow with a touch of red and pink along the petiole to midrib, just spongey enough to hold nug form. I love that look and it usually translates to smooth earthy flavor with just the right amount of fruity bite; hopefully in this case, maintaining some of that happy sunny Thai buzz.

 

[fizz]

That thin leaf profile in the bottom of the first pic looks promising Willy! I too have noticed haze to be a slow starter from seed, yet at the same time very vigorous and easy to clone once established.

 

[willydread]

Sincerely she isnt pure Oldtimer haze,but green ot1 haze x thai,mostly haze pheno,i love she...

 

[SonicNurse92]

Ecuador

Ecuador

Hola Luis y hola a todos de nuevo
Hi Luis and hi everyone again

7 semanas de floración, 6 semanas 12/12, 1 semana 11/13; compartirá la tienda con una Panama pelo rosa fem en unos 10 días. 13 semanas más por recorrer, volveré en unas 3 semanas a subir más fotos.

7 weeks of flowering, 6 weeks 12/12, 1 week 11/13; will share the tend with a Panama pink hair fem in about 10 days. 13 weeks more to go, i'll be back in 3 week to upload more pictures.

Hasta luego colegas

 

[dubi]

Sincerely she isnt pure Oldtimer haze,but green ot1 haze x thai,mostly haze pheno,i love she...

I'm glad to know it, thanks for keeping alive our previous Haze x Thai releases sooner or later i will work again with them

 

[dubi]

Hola SonicNurse92

Un placer ver su Oldtimer's Haze en interior, muy poca gente tiene el coraje de dedicar todo su espacio de interior para cultivar este tipo de sativas tropicales extremas así que su entrega se agradece y mucho.

No se tiene limitaciones de altura, pero en caso de que así sea y si la planta está experimentando un fuerte estiramiento ahora a inicios de floración le recomendaría podarlas para que no desmadren de tamaño, aunque pueda retrasar ligeramente su floración, pero es mejor podarlas que intentar florecerlas cuando sobrepasan la lámpara

Por aqui andamos para ayudarle con cualquier duda Nuestros mejores deseos!

Hi SonicNurse92

A pleasure to see your Oldtimer's Haze indoors, very few people have the courage to devote all their indoor space to grow this type of extreme tropical sativas so your dedication is highly appreciated!

I'm not sure if you have height limitations, but if that's the case and if the plant is experiencing a strong stretching now in early flowering then i would recommend pruning them so that they do not overgrow your indoor space, although it may slightly delay its flowering, but it is better to prune them than try to light her when she is surpassing the lamp

Let me know if you have any doubt during the flowering: yes:
Best wishes!

 

[SonicNurse92]

Hola de nuevo dubi!

Es un privilegio poder cultivar y guardar esta variedad para futuros trabajos personales, muchas gracias a ti por trabajarlas y compartirlas.

Vengo con fotos de la OTH madre que se encuentra en exterior; 13,5 semanas de floración, dos brazos principales. Al parecer llegará a las 20 semanas sin problemas. El estiramiento del esqueje paro un poco con el cambio a 11/13. Regresaré en un mes con más fotos.

gracias por los deseos!
nos vemos

Hi again dubi!

It's a privilege to be able to grow and keep this strain for future personal works, thank you very much for working and sharing them.

I come with pictures of OTH's mom that's located outdoors; 13,5 weeks of flowering, two main arms. It seems it'll reach the 20 weeks mark without problems. The stretching of the cutting stopped a little bit with the change to 11/13. I'll be back in a month with more pictures.

Thank's for the wishes
see you

 

[dubi]

Purple Haze 23 mother outdoors early September

Purple Haze 23 mother outdoors early September

Here's our precious Purple Haze #23 mother still growing happily (and she still will do until autumn equinox).

She is completly green by now as the temps here in summer are between 24º-40ºC. She gets the purple colors in November/December, with the colder autumn nights.