OG Kush, Sour Diesel, Chemdog, Chemdawg, ECSD will always be a myth

[Goatstroker]

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[t99]

When you really think about it, the fact that a strain known to smell like dirty socks and offensive body odor funk came from a Dead show makes perfect sense.

Just glad it doesn't smell like patchouli oil! That stuff is truly vile!

 

[TrinZilla]

The Musical preferences of the Breeder, have nothin´to do with the quality of his work. On top of that is irrelevant.

What is relevant is:

Male Female ratio, stretch in flowering, smell, effect, productivity,vigour, cannabinoid profile, ratio of the desired pheno in a seed line, flowering time, presence or not of nanners, feeding needs, wáter needs...

Every info that can help a grower interested in that genetics to have a succesfull experience IS RELEVANT.

LOL @ the dead connection being about musical preferences...

 

[rasputin]

But I don't get why it having been at a show makes it good weed?

Who said that is what makes it good weed? It's good weed because it is killer smoke, breeds well and has consistently outperformed most of the stuff going around and has for 20+ years.

The detail about the Dead show is included to establish provenance. Nothing more, nothing less.

They didn't come from some guy in Florida breeding in a bunker, they didn't come from some guy diving in a dumpster, they came from a bag of bud sold at a Grateful Dead show. Some of you are reading too much into it.

Names ultimately don't matter to most smokers, that's understood. If it's good, it's good regardless of what it is called. But that doesn't mean these details are completely useless or insignificant, dispensaries and sellers prove that - names do mean something to some people. More importantly, to breeders/genetic collectors/weed nerds these details are important. Don't rain on their parade because you have other interests, there's enough room for everyone.

 

[JointOperation]

I'm just sick of the people that think they know the genetics perpetuating myths
I'm sick of the people that pretend to know the genetics history spreading lies.
I'm sick of people that google the genetics pretending to be experts on the history.

What really pisses me the fuck off is professionals that call themselves breeders passing off their knowledge as fact.

NOBODY. NOT ONE FUCKING PERSON HAS DEFINITIVE PROOF OF THE HISTORY OF ANY OF THOSE GENETICS, so stop preaching that "knowledge" as if it was gospel!

Sorry to rant, but I think this debate needs to end because nothing has been confirmed to this day, just opinions.

OGenome PROJECT is going to take care of all the bullshit man . we will know whats what atleast.. and maybe what is offspring or s1 .. but getting the truth out isn't going to be easy.. why? because no1 would believe it EVEN IF THE TRUTH CAME OUT.. lol . too many people want to be the MAN .. the OG MAN.. but in reality. who fucking cares were it came from.. just that WE KEEP IT ALIVE and keep working with it .

I mean sure it would be awesome to know EVERYTHING ABOUT OG KUSH and BUBBA.. and how they came to be.. and what was used to make them.. but until someone actually comes out with the original seeds that the og and bubba came from.. the proof isn't going to be much more then word of mouth..

you know? .. maybe if someone came out and was like I got 100 seeds left of the original bubba and og kush crosses or whatever they are.. and they put the proof out by popping the seed. and sending that in to the ogenome project..

the system is going to be setup.. so anyone can send in a sample. and find out what they have.. and how its related to OG kush.

they said they are going to do Bubba.. OG.. Chem . ECSD. and a ton of other og kush cuts.. also.. then once that is done.. we will be able to send in our own samples to have tested.. just a little piece of plant material I believe is all we will need to send in .

 

[ECtraveler]

they came from a bag of bud sold at a Grateful Dead show.

I understand that those seeds are where the current phenos we now know as Chem are derived from but where did that seeded bud come from? They weren't immaculately conceived so it's really not the beginning of the story. (*not to take anything away from the people involved)

edit: I skipped through 1/2 the thread so I'm sorry if this was already covered (probably has) but that's the one thing that I always think about when this topic is discussed. "...but what came before that?"

 

[rasputin]

I understand that those seeds are where the current phenos we now know as Chem are derived from but where did that seeded bud come from? They weren't immaculately conceived so it's really not the beginning of the story. (*not to take anything away from the people involved)

edit: I skipped through 1/2 the thread so I'm sorry if this was already covered (probably has) but that's the one thing that I always think about when this topic is discussed. "...but what came before that?"

I think the same thing, EC. The Dead show is simply the beginning of the story "as we know it". There is more to the story, of course. What was Dog bud? Did the seeds result from selfing? Did something nearby drop pollen? I vote for the former based on how little there were but who knows?

Questions I am sure many people interested in this story have thought of before. Unfortunately, we don't know. Not yet, at least.

 

[Elmer Bud]

Clearly your not a dead head.

G`day Btf

There is a big wide world outside the borders of the USA .
The majority of the worlds population don`t live in the USA . The Grateful Dead never featured in any Top 40s .

So yeah the majority of the worlds population have never even heard of the Grateful Dead . Let alone know what a Dead Head is .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[Jibman]

I would try to take it in stride and not let it affect you. I can think of worse things to happen then people arguing about cannabis strains and their supposed origins.

 

[wordsux]

So what?

When I watch a documentary on quantum physics and the narrator is explaining strong theory he could totally be blowing smoke up my ass. But i take his word because he is an expert. All the information you are given on a daily basis could all be a lie. So why sweat it. I know what sour d tastes and smells like because I know sour d. If someone tries to pass off something else I will know. Have a little faith until proven otherwise.

 

[Hrpuffnkush]

say you find out the origins of these strains...... then what ? is your life that much better from the info.....
if you dont like the puppet show dont buy a ticket lol

 

[harry74]

I didn´t know Gratefull Dead if it wasn´t for Chemdog.

I see now that it´s like Cult band.
I´m more of a Jimmi Hendrix fan


Jimmy Long Hands, Harlem ´69.

Developing the sensibility of his fingers/hands....

What the Brits would call a softly, softly aproach.

 

[Lester Beans]

Wtf is "skelly" hash plant? I really would like to know that. See, some folks care about the origins, like said about other plants. I only grow grapes, hops, tomatoes breed in my locale, they do better. I research heirloom varieties to find the roots to see if the strain will do well for the project at hand, with all plants.

If you don't believe, care, about the history, piss off. Some of us do.

Once again Pbud comes into a thread, and y'all can't stfu long enough to learn something. Just amazing to me.

As well as sad, some of us follow the trail to satisfy our curiosity, only to be foiled in the end because people are to busy yapping instead of reading. If you don't care go away. If you care, stfu and let the people that were THERE talk.

Rant over.

 

[harry74]

My apologies Lester.

Focusing in Chemdog, as said before , I have never grown/smoke it but I would bet that there is some afghan genetics in the make up, mixed with somenthing else, somenthing more sativa probably...

I shut up, sorry again.

 

[Lester Beans]

Skelly Hash Plant
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=64841

 

[stihgnobevoli]

that thread goes nowhere.

 

[bigtacofarmer]

I have a Dead skull tatooed over my heart and I couldn't care less about someone's weed being at a Dead show.

That time I snuck under the fence (that garbage can didn't stop shit) barely avoiding the river while high on nitrous oxide among other things to get into a show at Alpine Valley in East Troy, that has interest to me.

But I don't get why it having been at a show makes it good weed?

My apologies brother.
I was making a comment about the music. Nope, a show didn't make weed good. I do feel appreciation of good weed and the dead go hand in hand. Not actually important to the genetic information, just my opinion.

Mailing my ticket money away this morning! Not sneaking under fences this year. Breaking the piggy bank.

 

[Lester Beans]

that thread goes nowhere.

Yes it was not a finished thread but it has pics and info. This is the first I have heard of it and apparently Skelly hashplant is HP13.

 

[harry74]

¿Is it related to NYC HP13 ( Top Dawg Seeds)?

According to HT guide of strains is really stinky.

I guess is hype but it´s says it´s the closest thing to RKS.

 

[photoperiodic]

i really do not like all this negative bullshity fuckupness perpetuated in any way over grow died a long imes ago to bad all you negative assholes didnt