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OG Kush heritage?

OG Kush heritage?

  • Afghanistan

    Votes: 40 57.1%
  • Pakistan

    Votes: 30 42.9%

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    70
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Its fun to try and intersect NL cuts either from Florida or relate the chem to OG Kush, but its important to remember the mention of Florida as relates OG Kush is a somewhat recent invention. As much as we all might want to relate things like Bubba and Original Diesel to OG, the folklore is still never going to be more than roughly a decade or so old as regards the initial circulation of such claims. Some of the dogbud narratives are interesting due to proximity, but again the appearance of these stories aren't so old.
 

Stash

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For many years I have had a very special group of friends that we would trade seeds and work on projects. Years ago I was given some Oger Kush seeds. So I have 11 seeds of Original ECSD Clone x Oger Kush, 9 seeds of Oger Kush Clone x Oger Kush and a nice bag of seeds of Oger Kush F's. Today I asked these friends " with Oger Kush being as great as it is why isn't everyone talking about it on the boards and why the hell isn't everyone growing it. I was told the Oger Kush is the name that our group called Ghost OG. Here I thought I had some very old seeds that were no longer around but as it turns out everyone is growing it, but it is good to know that Oger Kush is OG Kush. Later, Stash
 

mack 10

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Theres also a Sensi star pheno known as Ogers.

How did they get the male? Reversed or other?
 

Stash

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Mack, I don't know anything about Sensi Star but they are not from our group. Ghost is a friend, he is a very good person and he shared his clones freely amongst his friends. The group did alot of work back then and don't forget our little group is responsable for discovering CS to reverse sex in pot plants. It's been a very long time and we are all still friends, I'm not even going to ask about the male. The seeds are what I said they are and I'm glade to have them in my stash box. Later, Stash
 

Bradley_Danks

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I still have some ogre kush seeds from 2005 from the gypsy himself. Never popped em though. Tried a couple a few months ago and they didn't pop. Going to have to try some special techniques for old seeds :)
 
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StudenTeacher

The Sensi star cut is called 'oger', like Shrek the green monster/man It's a good WLD variety but no kush or OGK. OG'ers kush or OGer started getting passed around on the overgrow website before it for shut down. It was a long time ago when i was on that site but I think it was ghost or related. Just confusion in the spelling/abbreviation. I know nothing of OG origins, just wanted to correct the Sensi Star info :)
 
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StudenTeacher

Oops, I went ahead and misspelled it like so many others, lol. No wonder there's confusion. Ogre= Sensi Star. Commonly misspelled as Oger. Sometimes the meds get the best of me. Too much Louis xiii last night :)
 
@MJ, It's kind of hard to believe OG originated in cali when that guy Matt and his buddy JD have convincing evidence @therealogkushstory on in$tgram.

Like I said its a matter of when origin stories first occur. When it comes to Bubba and Chem, the plot lines and subsequent dissemination aren't that ancient. The unique terpene qualities chem brings does lead one to ponder its aspect in an OG recipe, but the traction breeders desire post 90's is often suspect when there is so much to gain.

None of this can change the fact that west-coast breeders had been working with kush strains since the 70's, to ignore the truth and pretend that breeders back then didn't know what they were doing and that high THC strains are strictly a modern phenom is convoluted, it feeds on a greater media stereotype painting contemporary flower as dangerous. We can't ignore the ego game either, you wouldn't find the type of egotistical hype surrounding bud in the 70's because there were no blue ribbons awarded or hardware to show off, it was a street game and still is in many ways. Don't get me wrong, I have maximum respect for the hustle.
 
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Xray Kimono

I got my cut from Jim Morrison in '67 he said it was a cross of an american indian strain called Ogeewah and an Afghani from the Hindu Kush region then crossed with peyote and watered using wolf tears.
 
This was fun, consensus seems to support Afghani as the cornerstone in OG Kush. Lately people are really into terpenes and even if I could only go by taste and smell, I would still say Afghanistan is the relative region within OG. So now what do we do since everyone for years has accepted Pakistan in the OG recipe?
 

dfa

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Ogers (Ohh-Jers) was what stoners in the valley would call OG. Nothing to do with sensi star or OgRE.
 

StankyBeamer

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Well u said the same about the info I was sharing in the Chemdog91 thread, before u realize I was right, and Matt was the one who brought the first OG in cali in 1995/96.
For some obscure reasons, U didn't came back to apologies after u pictured me as a idiot spreading false claim.

Why u don't share with us ur version of the story then??

OG kush is from a bag seed in Florida in 1991, according to Matt, the dude who brought the clone to Cali. Breal and others change the name from Kush to Original Kush. This clone is the original OG kush later known as Ghost OG.

Many claimed to have OG Kush before 1996, but none can prove it. So far only Matt and Josh have come up with strong evidences.

Could this bag seed been a TK s1 or x? Is OG Kush from a real breeding project? Big Ricky claimed it is, or is it a accidental hermie cross? Thats what we trying to find out now.
Ghost og = og bag seed found by ORGNKiD, then given to a forum members with the handle "Ghost" who then circulated it under the name ghost og. I have a verified cut of that and sfv, ghost is definitely noticeably different, has way more bud sites than sfv and other "pure" ogs, still throws little golf balls, just with less internodal space between. Also smells a lot more lemony than the sfv. Maybe not more lemony but definitely less gassy, leaving the limonene as the dominating terp. It's good shit and tests higher than the sfv, but not the original og kush at all, if I'm not totally off base I'm pretty sure the ghost og is about ten years younger than the dates we can all agree that og started popping up. I personally believe the TK story holds more weight than the ocean grown aka chem (lemon Thai x old world Paki kush) story. Too may similarities to triangle in structure and loudness, and if triangle can really be dated back to 1991, I would say there's no chem in og at all, but rather that they're from related lines, as I doubt the skva made it from crested butte to new England down to florida all in the same year fast enough to have a bag seed found across the country in the same year, especially without pot forums like this to help it make its way further faster. Just my $.02, very far from an expert on these genes, I'm barely older than them.
 

StankyBeamer

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Also, even though it's not really relevant here, I recently read in another thread that supposedly the dog bud skva got his bag seeds from was just a really well selected super skunk. I've definitely seen similar structure between the skva and some super skunks out there, just never got similar smells from the two.

Which could corroborate the affy background theory, super skunk definitely has some Afghan in her
 

ThaDocta

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Stanky Beamer... just stop.. you're spreading more misinfo.

Orgnkid's OG is the EXACT SAME CLONE that came from JOSH D and the REAL OG KUSH guys. They have more than enough evidence to support their claim of having brought the clone out from Florida. Orgnkid's "Ghost OG" is not a bag seed. It's the clone he purchased from a middle man from Josh around 2000.

Secondly, SkunkVA never popped the Dog Bud Seeds. The Dog Bud seeds were popped by the guy ChemDog from weed purchased from JoeBrand from Colorado, supposedly shipped in from Cali/Southern Oregon. SkunkVA claims HIS "Virginia Skunk" aka SuperSkunk is what he traded ChemDog for the Chem91 clone.

For fucks sake, I wish people would stop reposting the same misinformation over and over again. This is some of the worst clutching at straws for relevance I've ever seen.
 
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Xray Kimono

lol...

Funny thing about all this mess was that Bubba was just ole Duckfoot crossed to NL but the stories that proliferated throughout the years are sure funny as hell. And the only REAL pre '98 Bubba... is '96-'97 Bubba... That is when Bubba said he first made it.

Most people dont realize anymore what a stabilizing and yield increasing effect NL has on pretty much EVERYTHING. Great breeding genes.
 

StankyBeamer

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Stanky Beamer... just stop.. you're spreading more misinfo.

Orgnkid's OG is the EXACT SAME CLONE that came from JOSH D and the REAL OG KUSH guys. They have more than enough evidence to support their claim of having brought the clone out from Florida. Orgnkid's "Ghost OG" is not a bag seed. It's the clone he purchased from a middle man from Josh around 2000.

Secondly, SkunkVA never popped the Dog Bud Seeds. The Dog Bud seeds were popped by the guy ChemDog from weed purchased from JoeBrand from Colorado, supposedly shipped in from Cali/Southern Oregon. SkunkVA claims HIS "Virginia Skunk" aka SuperSkunk is what he traded ChemDog for the Chem91 clone.

For fucks sake, I wish people would stop reposting the same misinformation over and over again. This is some of the worst clutching at straws for relevance I've ever seen.
Then why is my verified ghost og cut different from my verified sfv? I have the same sfv swerve was selling clones of sometime around 2006, and it is definitely not the same thing as the ghost, which doesn't make sense according to what your saying, because the sfv cut predates the ghost cut, so if the ghost cut is just og, I shouldn't be able to tell the difference between the two. In veg they look like twins, I'll give you that. But once you flip them, it becomes quite clear by both terpenes and structure that they are very different. Someone who hasn't grown either would say they're the same plant, but when you work with them both its obvious. Also they test consistently different in thc % and cannabinoids, with the ghost usually testing higher. Seems like if larry, sfv, and tahoe are supposedly the same cuts, and are the earliest three nicknamed cuts, that the ghost would also be the same thing. Tahoe, sfv, and Larry are all definitely different cuts, and the ghost is most certainly different. Idk about the skva story, but I was going under the assumption that skva was the screen name used by chemdawg. At one point I knew the real name of the guy who called himself chemdawg and got locked up, but i forgot, along with a lot of other stuff that also doesn't really affect me. Thanks for the info docta, I love hearing from those more informed than myself. But I still gotta disagree that ghost is the original renamed, the node spacing is too tight. It wont stack but the golf balls form awfully close together for a pure og
 
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