No use for a name farms El Dorado 2016

[_tessarecting]

Lookin' good. I didn't know about EMT connectors and will be checking them out.

I got flown twice a month apart. First with a cam. Then they did a few circles while counting mine and neighbors numbers. Sounds like the same one. Just think of all the other gardens out there. They must be busy as hell this year.

 

[HillMizer]

Hey y'all just a quick shitty photo drop, been busy. Mostly walking in circles bumping into things and working on getting flowers down the road to patients.

Got some more trellising in, added 5' extensions to the 10' pipes. Just on two corners to secure the Xmas tree tops.

I got some soil tests back from Logan, but they are red flag already. They say 17% Organic matter for my full season. It was 54% at last test and I have like 4-5" of green and brown mulch on top. I took 12" core samples from 12 plants and blended them.

I'll post once I wipe my name off em. Nothing is high anymore, including that 5ppm boron!

CA was 75% due to gypsum, chicken, and JHB. K, and Mag are low as well as phos. Greenhouse is quite deficient too.

I may send a sample to Spectrum, but I"m making moves anyhow.

I'm doing MAP, 3x phos, sul-po-mag. I can't seem to find a bag of Dical around here. I'm mixing em in the cement mixer and dumping slurry. Organic topdresses are moving slow with all that mulch.

I"ll get some bud photos, Azure haze is coming around, looking like it's making monster buds in the shade.

I'm marketing shade grown herb this season

 

[_tessarecting]

Shade grown...lol...I got a coupla those!

 

[sacramental]

Learning a bunch from this thread. Love them big plants!

 

[HillMizer]

End of year nutrition

End of year nutrition

Finished the processing on the greenhouse crop and got it off the property. The soil in the greenhouse needed more attention. Between that, the genetics and lack of sun I did not come close to my normal target of 1oz/ square-foot. I'm lucky and grateful for what I got.

Back to trying to nail the full season. I refilled the greenhouse with game changer, 2 tortured full season plants and clones of Sky Lotus and Super Critical haze. I have some in the Mom room too along with deadhead og.

I'm almost finished with a new spreadsheet to crunch my numbers and give me amounts of amendment in grams/yard.

I'm thinking I will start using 83.5% Ca 10% Mg and 5% K.
I'm learning a lot in other threads, like Foothill's at the moment. I'm going to just keep plugging along. I'll add more Ca. The gh needs Mg for sure. I'll use mag sulfate.
I also plan on using mn sulfate, copper sulfate, dicalcium phosphate gypsum and sulfate of potash. That's a lot of sulfate we'll see how the numbers go down.

Feel free to chime in. I have high chlorine from my water now. I'm switching sources next season. Not sure if I should try something now.

 

[caterpillar710]

How do you like the game changer ? The packs of it I've see. The bud structure is weird but the smell is there in spades

 

[plantingplants]

Looking big. Mizer, when you take samples, how far from the stalk do you go?

What do you mean 'dumping slurry'? Into your irrigation tank, or topdressing? Also, I thought when you started feeding salts, especially calcium salts, they kick everything off the cec sites and you're basically doing hydro, so you have to feed everything? says jidoka.

hahah shade grown, dude you're thinking along the right lines.

It's cool to see ideas spread and bounce from person to person, like the EMT.

 

[HillMizer]

How do you like the game changer ? The packs of it I've see. The bud structure is weird but the smell is there in spades

First time for me with gamechanger. I've seen it dense and round, machine trimmable. Loud fruity smell. It's supposed to be short cycle like GDP, 45 days.

Looking big. Mizer, when you take samples, how far from the stalk do you go?
What do you mean 'dumping slurry'? Into your irrigation tank, or topdressing? Also, I thought when you started feeding salts, especially calcium salts, they kick everything off the cec sites and you're basically doing hydro, so you have to feed everything? says jidoka.
hahah shade grown, dude you're thinking along the right lines.
It's cool to see ideas spread and bounce from person to person, like the EMT.

I go far enough that I'm not cutting all my roots. Near the outside. Not sure about the CEC thing. The greenhouse has a lot of hydrogen, but I think I just made the mix too light on lime and everything else.


Also, I used a granular 3x phosphate, not an instantly soluble salt. I'm using it just like any other amendment. And when I used MKP in the past it was very sparingly. Not sure if this makes a difference or not. Conventional farmers use this science often and they do not feed "hydro" style all year so I don't believe that to be entirely accurate. People also say that anything except organics will kill all your microlife. NOT TRUE.


Slurry for me is amendment mixed with water to make a more effective application, especially through mulch. Usually 5 gallon bucket per plant.I've been using a concrete mixer to blend it. I have dreams of using a concrete pump.


Here's the Greenhouse PDF of my new spreadsheet .It should be attached I'm not good with computers and office stuff but I'm trying. Backhoes and welders are more my speed.

 

[mk6]

fkn loven it ))

 

[HillMizer]

The Mn calcs for greenhouse had a typo in it, the number in the excess column should be the deficiency, fixed it in my copy.

I got the full season here. Everything appears to be in excess using my new numbers. I still have no clue how Logan got their target numbers, they don't appear the 68-12-4 or anything like that.

It's going to be more difficult to balance my soil when everything appears to be in excess. I have calcium target at 83.5.
PH is only 6.3 for greenhouse so it could get lime.
6.8 for full season for just gyp? Anyone got a good suggestion how to go about this? should I set the existing Calcium ( or P or K or?) number as "Target" and add more nutrients to balance it? i'll look in a book.

At first glance I thought I would just be adding Ca, P, K and micros and a little sulphur with the sulfates. It might be more complicated.

I've been in the office all morning, I'm off to take the dog to the vet, he's coughing up a lung. As close to being a stay at home dad as I get

 

[FoothillFarming]

What lab did you use? Some of those target numbers are weird to me....

lets get slownickel up in here.

 

[HillMizer]

What lab did you use? Some of those target numbers are weird to me....

lets get slownickel up in here.

I used Logan, The results in image format are back a page. The target numbers I came up witb in a spreadsheet I made, the formulas I posted for proofread in Slownickel lounge. I have the spreadsheet available in excel format as well.

I'm in contact with Slownickel, he's tuning me in.

 

[HillMizer]

More Calcium!

More Calcium!

While I was messing around with medical and legal problems and making spreadsheets my garden was trying to show me it wants more Calcium!
What do you think?

I noticed it was not so perky last week and seemed hungry so I threw some cal &phos rich foods at it. I just ran out of JHB calcium so I skipped a foliar application.

I took samples to send to Spectrum for a different analysis

 

[HillMizer]

More JHB Calcium coming on monday and going to chuck some dical and check water too!

 

[slownickel]

Hill,

Gypsum. Realize that when you have a deficiency of calcium it is most often due to an accumulation of a bunch of other elements raising K, Mg and Na. It is not that there is not enough calcium for your crop, it is because there is too much of these others. So it is important (and I know no one wants to hear this) to push these other elements out, even though You paid a fortune for them. Folks just get upset if they cannot feed.... no one realizes how much nutrition is really there the problem is balance.

This is why I keep saying most folks don't have space to fertilize as there is not enough calcium there.

And the majority of the time, the problem is an excess of Mg. I have seen many crops do better and better with less Mg, down to 7% of the base distribution.

If you see a Mg problem, apply Mg foliarly. But the reason for the deficiency is not because you don't have enough Mg, it is mainly due to not enough P. Even though there is probably a lot of P, so why do you need more P? Too much K and Na.

Hopefully this concept of having space for elements makes a bit more sense. I am not a very good writer.

 

[plantingplants]

Ok so is it that plants can handle all the Ca, but not the other elements, so the Ca is a safe placeholder, sort of, to allow you to add nutrients as you need them?

So mizer has too much saturation with the other elements, so bump them off with gypsum and then he will have space to fertilize what he needs?

And that's why you preach gypsum! Am I understanding it right? As you told me, most problems in agriculture are caused by excesses, so you address most problems with more gypsum to keep the other elements in check?

 

[slownickel]

Ok so is it that plants can handle all the Ca, but not the other elements, so the Ca is a safe placeholder, sort of, to allow you to add nutrients as you need them?

So mizer has too much saturation with the other elements, so bump them off with gypsum and then he will have space to fertilize what he needs?

And that's why you preach gypsum! Am I understanding it right? As you told me, most problems in agriculture are caused by excesses, so you address most problems with more gypsum to keep the other elements in check?

Go read at the slow nickel lounge.

 

[plantingplants]

Edit: nvm. I see that last post there. Thanks.

 

[cannascholar]

Looking good, are you still spraying Regalia for pm? I like gypsum, calcium silicate, or ca carbonate top dresses for Ca.

 

[slownickel]

Looking good, are you still spraying Regalia for pm? I like gypsum, calcium silicate, or ca carbonate top dresses for Ca.

Canna, at what pH is your medium and what pH do you have in your water?

Top dressing with carbonate can cause some serious upward pH spikes, I have no idea what the calcium silicate would do.