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No Big Bang? Quantum equation predicts universe has no beginning

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ghostmade

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Gravy is lovely! Makes all the horrible stuff easier to swallow. In fact that's probably why they invented it.
Bit like all the adaptations people make to the religions over time - no one wants to eat this old book any more, so let's chuck some new gravy on it
Project blue beam.lol
Seriously though m9re meat less gravy.
 

mr.brunch

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That's what I have always looked for in these stories as even though I personally don't believe , it's interesting to see where the the ideas seem to stem from and how they have been adapted over time.
 

mr.brunch

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^1000 yrs old!? :D,What to think! ..pending pic


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HempKat

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species appearing and dissapearing is not proof of evolution.evolution is slow.a bunch of germs or bacteria in a petre dish changing or adapting to its enviroment is not enough proof for me.if you dont look at the fossil record what other life do you look at that could have evolved?

The reason species appearing disappearing isn't proof of evolution is there are ways other then evolution that a species can appear or disappear. For example if a super volcano erupts and covers most of the world with a volcanic winter that last several years it would kill off all species affected by the volcanic winter. I don't think it's fair to say that extinction due to a natural event is evolution at work. Now if some species survived the same volcanic winter due to something different about them from the others that would be a sign of evolution. Likewise if a new never before seen species of insect turned up in the Amazon rain forest is it evolution or creation?
 

RetroGrow

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Astronomers detect EVIDENCE of 'highly ADVANCED' alien colonies in more than 50 galax

Astronomers detect EVIDENCE of 'highly ADVANCED' alien colonies in more than 50 galax

EVIDENCE of advanced alien civilisations has been detected in 50 different galaxies.

A team of American scientists have detected the first traces of advanced extraterrestrial colonies.
The astronomers detected unusually high levels of radiation in 50 different galaxies using NASA's orbiting infrared telescope, the Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE)
Technologies from highly-developed extraterrestrial civilisations could be the source of these uncommonly high levels of radioactivity, the team has speculated.
Radiation could be emitted by these alien civilisations in the same way Earth radiates heat and light.
Penn State University, who commissioned the study, observed more than 100,000 galaxies. Of those – only 50 hinted at the presence of advanced life.
Roger Griffith, a researcher from the Pennsylvania university and the lead author of the paper, said: "We found about 50 galaxies that have unusually high levels of mid-infrared radiation.
“Our follow-up studies of those galaxies may reveal if the origin of their radiation results from natural astronomical processes – or if it could indicate the presence of a highly advanced civilization."
Theoretical physicist Freeman Dyson first suggested mankind could reach out across the stars using mid-infrared emissions to track down an alien race, back in the early 1960s.
But it was not until NASA launched its WISE satellite in December 2009 that it became possible.
Dr Jason Wright, the assistant professor of astronomy and astrophysics at the Center for Exoplanets and Habitable Worlds at Penn State University, kickstarted the research project.
He said: "The idea behind our research is that, if an entire galaxy had been colonized by an advanced spacefaring civilization, the energy produced by that civilization's technologies would be detectable in mid-infrared wavelengths – exactly the radiation that the WISE satellite was designed to detect for other astronomical purposes."
"Whether an advanced spacefaring civilization uses the large amounts of energy from its galaxy's stars to power computers, space flight, communication, or something we can't yet imagine, fundamental thermodynamics tells us that this energy must be radiated away as heat in the mid-infrared wavelengths," he told The Daily Telegraph.
"This same basic physics causes your computer to radiate heat while it is turned on.

"As we look more carefully at the light from these galaxies, we should be able to push our sensitivity to alien technology down to much lower levels, and to better distinguish heat resulting from natural astronomical sources from heat produced by advanced technologies.

"This pilot study is just the beginning."
Mario Livio, an astrophysicist working at the Space Telescope Science Institute in Baltimore, which operates NASA Hubble telescope science program, this week spoke out about a possible successor to Hubble capable of analysing Earth-like planets for alien lifeforms.

"In my view, the next priority should be the search for life beyond our solar system," Dr Livio told Space.com.

"A powerful space telescope that can spot biological signatures in the atmospheres of Earth-like exoplanets would be a worthy successor.

"Many scientists would agree that the question of, 'Is there extrasolar life?' is one of the most intriguing questions in science today.

"So let's try to actually answer that question, and do what it takes to answer it, as opposed to maybe taking baby steps that would just push the answer into the more distant future."


http://www.express.co.uk/life-style...nced-Alien-Colonies-Life-Forms-Galaxies-Earth

Bye-bye, Jesus.....
 

Weird

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funny how the paper you quoted has that headline yet the official press release from Penn state released on the 14th from science daily was this:

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2015-04/ps-sfa041415.php


Search for advanced civilizations beyond Earth finds nothing obvious in 100,000 galaxies


Date:
April 14, 2015
Source:
Penn State
Summary:
After searching 100,000 galaxies for signs of highly advanced life, a team of scientists has found no evidence of advanced civilizations there. The idea behind the research is that, if an entire galaxy had been colonized by an advanced spacefaring civilization, the energy produced by that civilization's technologies would be detectable in mid-infrared wavelengths.


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IMAGE: This is a false-color image of the mid-infrared emission from the Great Galaxy in Andromeda, as seen by Nasa's WISE space telescope. The orange color represents emission from the heat of... view more

Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech/WISE Team

After searching 100,000 galaxies for signs of highly advanced extraterrestrial life, a team of scientists using observations from NASA's WISE orbiting observatory has found no evidence of advanced civilizations in them. "The idea behind our research is that, if an entire galaxy had been colonized by an advanced spacefaring civilization, the energy produced by that civilization's technologies would be detectable in mid-infrared wavelengths -- exactly the radiation that the WISE satellite was designed to detect for other astronomical purposes," said Jason T. Wright, an assistant professor of astronomy and astrophysics at the Center for Exoplanets and Habitable Worlds at Penn State University, who conceived of and initiated the research.

The research team's first paper about its Glimpsing Heat from Alien Technologies Survey (G-HAT), will be published in the Astrophysical Journal Supplement Series on April 15, 2015. Also among the team's discoveries are some mysterious new phenomena in our own Milky Way galaxy.

"Whether an advanced spacefaring civilization uses the large amounts of energy from its galaxy's stars to power computers, space flight, communication, or something we can't yet imagine, fundamental thermodynamics tells us that this energy must be radiated away as heat in the mid-infrared wavelengths," Wright said. "This same basic physics causes your computer to radiate heat while it is turned on."

Theoretical physicist Freeman Dyson proposed in the 1960s that advanced alien civilizations beyond Earth could be detected by the telltale evidence of their mid-infrared emissions. It was not until space-based telescopes like the WISE satellite that it became possible to make sensitive measurements of this radiation emitted by objects in space.

Roger Griffith, a postbaccalaureate researcher at Penn State and the lead author of the paper, scoured almost the entire catalog of the WISE satellite's detections -- nearly 100 million entries -- for objects consistent with galaxies emitting too much mid-infrared radiation. He then individually examined and categorized around 100,000 of the most promising galaxy images. Wright reports, "We found about 50 galaxies that have unusually high levels of mid-infrared radiation. Our follow-up studies of those galaxies may reveal if the origin of their radiation results from natural astronomical processes, or if it could indicate the presence of a highly advanced civilization."

In any case, Wright said, the team's non-detection of any obvious alien-filled galaxies is an interesting and new scientific result. "Our results mean that, out of the 100,000 galaxies that WISE could see in sufficient detail, none of them is widely populated by an alien civilization using most of the starlight in its galaxy for its own purposes. That's interesting because these galaxies are billions of years old, which should have been plenty of time for them to have been filled with alien civilizations, if they exist. Either they don't exist, or they don't yet use enough energy for us to recognize them," Wright said.

"This research is a significant expansion of earlier work in this area," said Brendan Mullan, director of the Buhl Planetarium at the Carnegie Science Center in Pittsburgh and a member of the G-HAT team. "The only previous study of civilizations in other galaxies looked at only 100 or so galaxies, and wasn't looking for the heat they emit. This is new ground."

Matthew Povich, an assistant professor of astronomy at Cal Poly Pomona, and a co-investigator on the project, said "Once we had identified the best candidates for alien-filled galaxies, we had to determine whether they were new discoveries that needed follow-up study, or well-known objects that had a lot of mid-infrared emission for some natural reason." Jessica Maldonado, a Cal Poly Pomona undergraduate, searched the astronomical literature for the best of the objects detected as part of the study to see which were well known and which were new to science. "Ms. Maldonado discovered that about a half dozen of the objects are both unstudied and really interesting looking," Povich said.

"When you're looking for extreme phenomena with the newest, most sensitive technology, you expect to discover the unexpected, even if it's not what you were looking for," said Steinn Sigurdsson, professor of astronomy and astrophysics at Penn State's Center for Exoplanets and Habitable Worlds and a co-investigator on the research team. "Sure enough, Roger and Jessica did find some puzzling new objects. They are almost certainly natural astronomical phenomena, but we need to study them more carefully before we can say for sure exactly what's going on."

Among the discoveries within our own Milky Way galaxy are a bright nebula around the nearby star 48 Librae, and a cluster of objects easily detected by WISE in a patch of sky that appears totally black when viewed with telescopes that detect only visible light. "This cluster is probably a group of very young stars forming inside a previously undiscovered molecular cloud, and the 48 Librae nebula apparently is due to a huge cloud of dust around the star, but both deserve much more careful study," Povich said.

"As we look more carefully at the light from these galaxies," said Wright, "we should be able to push our sensitivity to alien technology down to much lower levels, and to better distinguish heat resulting from natural astronomical sources from heat produced by advanced technologies. This pilot study is just the beginning."
 

Weird

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Proof that it is poverty and education that breeds undesirable traits in humans


http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nn.3983.html

Family income, parental education and brain structure in children and adolescents

Socioeconomic disparities are associated with differences in cognitive development. The extent to which this translates to disparities in brain structure is unclear. We investigated relationships between socioeconomic factors and brain morphometry, independently of genetic ancestry, among a cohort of 1,099 typically developing individuals between 3 and 20 years of age. Income was logarithmically associated with brain surface area. Among children from lower income families, small differences in income were associated with relatively large differences in surface area, whereas, among children from higher income families, similar income increments were associated with smaller differences in surface area. These relationships were most prominent in regions supporting language, reading, executive functions and spatial skills; surface area mediated socioeconomic differences in certain neurocognitive abilities. These data imply that income relates most strongly to brain structure among the most disadvantaged children.
 

Weird

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you want to end the scourge of death from gang members and religious extremists give them access to resources like income and education


Now look at the expenditures and ask yourself why is America's so high? That is because the government buys its supplies above retail price from private contractors in private contracts.

Who is making that money? Give you some hints, old and established people in the .01%

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mr.brunch

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Btw, always be wary of any headlines that have daily express attached to them. They are notoriously full of shit.
 
there have been events on this planet that have wiped out all life and life had to basicly start over.dinosaurs is just one example.species staying and slowly changing into another species is not documented any where in the fossil record.evolution takes billions of years of life changing UNINTERRUPTED,which has not happened.there have been magor breaks in life on earth even very recently in our past and that doesn support the idea of insects turning into fish then monkeys and hey theres a fukin elephant
 
we would be finding shit tons of fossils everywhere that are all the species today all mixed up and changing and shit and its just not there.the only thing they keep finding is a bunch of hominid lookin skelotons that probably came from some race of inbred people that where once on the earth,which seems very conveinient if you want to prove evolution in humans.its amazing someone else on this thread said to look at the folks who are educating you and there motives for it.
 

AuxinRiver

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The Big Bang theory is one of the most ridiculous things astrophysics has come up with.
First of all, that name, second, it seems to have been conjured up by an 8 year old boy.

The Planck satellite spent four years detecting the oldest light in the universe, the cosmic microwave background across the entire sky.

So get this: The universe is 13.82 billion years old. Really!?
Translation: Current technology is capable of detecting light at a distance of 13.82 billion years.

In no way does that give us "the age of the universe", but the age of the Observable Universe. And that is something entirely different.
 

bombadil.360

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what I personally find amazing is that if I were to buy a new wrist watch, and people asked me where I bought it and who makes this specific kind of wrist watch, and I were to tell them that no body made this wrist watch, and that I did not even buy it, but what really happened was that one day the gas stove in my kitchen exploded and by luck this new watch came into being.

no one would ever believe me...

but if I say that the whole universe, and all life on earth, which is exponentially way more complex than a wrist watch, came out of an explosion by mere luck and chance, then I can find tons of willing believers.

hehehe...

peace
 
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