No Big Bang? Quantum equation predicts universe has no beginning

[Canniwhatsis]

"Big bang"


Yeah,... happens every day! Not in your pants, not controlled in a lab, but every day, countless times thru out the "known" universe.

Particles collide and explode with energy.

Every one of those collisions is on magnitudes of order to the scale of the other, and each creates its own "Big Bang"









We exist in a plane that we view as the "whole" universe, but it is just a bubble. An aftershock of a subatomic collision on a greater scale.

And every second many more universes are created within our own reality.

We can't see them because they only exist for an immeasurable amount of time to us, and they are too small to detect, but it is happening.

Just as our existence is happening on a much larger scale.


Time is an illusion.

 

[armedoldhippy]

Yup, only one book, and not a single response to trillions of prayers. If only the "deity" would show his face, or appear on "Ellen"......then I would be a believer.

God answers all prayers. most of the time, the answer is "no". no one is asking you to believe. come to think of it, I aint seen you, either. not live, nor on Ellen. and the Bible was not written by God, your attempt at satire/ humor aside. nor do any but the most rabid (Southern Baptists, mostly) believe it word for word as absolute truth. it has been edited by regular men for hundreds of years. damn few really think that the earth is but a few thousand years old, and the vast majority of religious people see no real contradiction between religion and evolution/science. you are tilting at windmills that do not exist. but hey, if it floats your boat, it aint no skin off of my nose...

 

[quokka]

Not that i have any theory of my own, but the "Big Bang' theory always sounded like some cockamamie thing that whoever it was plucked out of thin air and 'stuck' mainly because no one could think of something more profound while also digestible.

Who really knows............. no one..........

 

[Midwest sticky]

Edited cause I'm way to high and my comment made no fucking sense.
Carry on.

 

[mr.brunch]

Blessed are the cheese-makers

 

[GMT]

Time is not an illusion as it can be manipulated.
Say you were standing an a river bank and wanted to cross the river. The river is fast flowing and carries you down river as you cross it. If you cross it quickly you get carried down river by less distance than if you cross it slowly. This is relativity. Time takes you with it faster the slower you move.

 

[Pinnate]

Time is not an illusion as it can be manipulated.
Say you were standing an a river bank and wanted to cross the river. The river is fast flowing and carries you down river as you cross it. If you cross it quickly you get carried down river by less distance than if you cross it slowly. This is relativity. Time takes you with it faster the slower you move.

The first line is gibberish, basically ─ the rest is made up of the pretty, bleeding obvious . . .

 

[Weird]

Do you think time is not real because it is a metric because is physically intangible?

Did mankind create time? Does it exist only because of us? or have we been subject to it and not only sense it but have evolved to measure and communicate its meaning with each other?

Will the 100 year war still have taken 100 years from the perspective of mankind even after we passed? or did that event never happen once we are no longer there to perceive it?

Do we posses senses outside of the 5 like sense of direction, sense of time, sense of temperature? Are the meanings and metrics thereof a creation of our consciousness or sensed as part of our existence in the universe itself?

See the real problem here is with the illusion that what we see is real and what is unseen is not.

 

[armedoldhippy]

Time is not an illusion as it can be manipulated.
Say you were standing an a river bank and wanted to cross the river. The river is fast flowing and carries you down river as you cross it. If you cross it quickly you get carried down river by less distance than if you cross it slowly. This is relativity. Time takes you with it faster the slower you move.

time only exists if I am late, or waiting for something to happen. otherwise, it does not coexist with me on any plane...

 

[GMT]

I guess your family don't buy you birthday presents then if time doesn't affect t you and you aren't getting any older armed.
Pinnate, there are a lot of people around who still don't understand relativity, you have to make things simple to reach numbers.

 

[Pinnate]

Pinnate, there are a lot of people around who still don't understand relativity, you have to make things simple to reach numbers.

To lower one's self to their level is hardly a good idea . . . ?

 

[GMT]

On the contrary, to say something complex in words anyone can understand is not lowering oneself, but raising those who listen.

 

[Pinnate]

And the fact he is the best example in history of a man who proved to mankind he was God is supportive to Christians claims. No deity has done to history what Jesus has.

Come on, FFS ─ no one with a brain really believes that old shite?

 

[GMT]

He wasn't all that good at proving it. If he was, he wouldn't have been killed. If folks who believe behave for fear of the outcome, what outcome would they expect for murdering gods son?

 

[armedoldhippy]

I guess your family don't buy you birthday presents then if time doesn't affect t you and you aren't getting any older armed.
Pinnate, there are a lot of people around who still don't understand relativity, you have to make things simple to reach numbers.

I guess your poor vision either did not pick up the , or else you misconstrued that symbol on your braille keyboard... don't worry, I don't expect either an intelligent response, nor a mature one.

 

[Mad Lab]

He wasn't all that good at proving it. If he was, he wouldn't have been killed. If folks who believe behave for fear of the outcome, what outcome would they expect for murdering gods son?

if you read more or what i wrote, i said he would have likely been killed MUCH earlier. likely, he would have been killed immediately after such claims.

and 'supposedly' he choose to be taken to be put too death. he could have left the garden before the roman soldiers came for him but he knew what he was here for, and that was to teach mankind the universal truths and then be executed.




and for pinnate, i assure you i have a brain.

and i agree that people who accept non-sense without much of a reason besides wanting to believe in something. once again, i assure you i am not that person.

but its also ok if you dont agree. but lets get one thing straight, you may be smarter than me, but you are not smarter than me because you dont believe in the Christian deity.

 

[D. B. Doober]

I would do anything to have a time machine. Do you think the government has experimented with time travel?

 

[Mad Lab]

I would do anything to have a time machine. Do you think the government has experimented with time travel?

experimented likely yes. any success, who knows.

i wonder if any good could come from such advancement.

 

[Weird]

He wasn't all that good at proving it. If he was, he wouldn't have been killed. If folks who believe behave for fear of the outcome, what outcome would they expect for murdering gods son?

Your argument is fundamentally illogical regardless of whether the existence of God is true.

The fundamental understanding of the world declared by science is not a constant.

If we can work withing a framework of belief in regards to our evolving knowledge in science, that is knowledge that is self correcting to actualize truth then the same can be done with religion regardless of the validity of its original basis.

No one here has been able to raise the intellectual bar high enough to talk about specific gnostics in depth and compare them to other institutions of mankind because of their inherent superstitions regarding them.

If someone believes in something that is not real to you why does that threaten you? why does it draw your ire?

If it were a child would you chide them because their knowledge is still in development?

Would you ego require it?

So even as a belief rooted in nonsense there is validity from the point of the observer, which if you can see things from this perspective would allow you to reverse engineer their understanding and correct it.

This requires emotional intelligence, and understanding of the human condition in which we all share and a desire to educate not berate people for their difference if it is so counter productive you find need to correct it or feel they might benefit from simply understanding things from a different perspective.

You don't have to agree with a perception to benefit from understanding it.

But I digress, lets examine your theory as stated above.

He wasn't all that good at proving it. If he was, he wouldn't have been killed.

cute and smarmy but im sure manufactured as shallow

dry english humor always detracts the easily distracted

Regardless of the reality of God he came to die so that his actions in life would ring loud and clear many millenium after his death that is why there are close to 2 billion Christian in the world today

He was the incarnation of a man who gave selflessly and always for the benefit of others.

Many religions, philosophies and even physics believes energy is neither created or destroyed.

In this case his karma exists today.

And as it is interpreted by Christians his sole purpose was to inspire us to life to our greatest potential harmoniously and this is why so many people are attracted to it because it reflects their internal desires.

My guess is that vibrancy of people in the personal lives of cynics here is minimal because they have no desire to reach a harmonious potential with others.

If folks who believe behave for fear of the outcome, what outcome would they expect for murdering gods son?

The people who "murdered" Jesus had no conscious that could be communicated with, like you.

They were probably introverted sociopaths who had no social consciousness as a defect of genetic mutation or were developmentally stunted

However the few people it didn't effect in a positive is a mere fraction to the people who based on his sacrifice for others have opened their minds to the concept of causation and human nature.

That what we do does effect others and that we can build each other up in positive ways, as he was (proposed as an example of evolutionary perfection we are meant to achieve) or we can prey on each other and interact in parasitic ways like the bugs we evolved from.

Some people get it some people don't at the end its always a matter of perspective which is a matter of free will

 

[Midwest sticky]

experimented likely yes. any success, who knows.

i wonder if any good could come from such advancement.

In the goverments hands no good would come from it, everything they get involved in turns to shit.