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NFL 2019-2020

shithawk420

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Fuck boys.im not a huge fan of of Journey but it's literally 5 minutes away and fireworks on the Mississippi.im fucking going.its gonna be awesome.
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Bababooey

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I used to play with those throwing stars too, were they pretty hard to stick into a tree? Would you throw it like a playing card or would you hold it like a baseball (the points up against your palm) and flick it? I heard the latter is how youre supposed to do it.

Never had a blowgun, that would be pretty bad-a to have. In real life ur supposed to poison the tips in order to put down a target.

Everyone’s nervous about fields, but I think we’ll be alright. He’s got DJ moore to throw to, kmet is a pretty good receiver at tight end, his #2 WR is darnell mooney who’s decent. Id worry more about the defense if I were u, even if the O gets a lead the D might give it right back.

Im no josh mcdaniels fan but why the hate, subrob? If he did try to tank last season on purpose, it must have been at the owner’s direction, coaches get fired for losing too many games unless it was part of the plan.
But yeah, the whole benching derek carr thing last year was not a good look, carr has been stalwart with the team through a lot of bad times, and to move on from him like that was disrespectful. He’s looking decent with new orleans so far in preseason.

Ive heard of journey but not too familiar with their music, what are their most famous songs again? Don’t stop believing? If the weather is good sounds like a good time, should meet some wimmen there too.
 

subrob

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I hate him cuz his attitude. His total disregard for the players, and third, his attitude.😆

Last year wasn't the year to tank. We were on an upward trajectory, even with all the tragedy off field, the NFL witch hunt on Chuckie, and the lack of quality depth.
McDaniels showed he is incapable of working w what he's got. That's a bad sign. He HAS to have guys that were trained by belicheck. He may be able to develop a QB, but not any of the other positions. That's a handicap.
I watched each Raider game between 2-4 times last year, throughout the season and post season. Children playing Madden call better games. You see coach of the saints rolled him out of pocket ON THE FIRST PLAY! That's one of his biggest strengths. And last year if it happened once a game it was a lot. And play action?!? A STAPLE of ALL NFL offenses, especially in today's high volume pass happy offenses? A staple. ESPECIALLY when you have the NFL rushing LEADER! But last season? Hardly at all until weeks 16 and 17 when Carr hit the bench. When it was pointed out immediately after week 16, he said "the offense was limited because Carr didn't pick up the offense fast enough. Carr, he of 6 head coaches and 7 offensive coordinators in first 9 seasons! There's no one in the NFL better at picking up new systems.
The season didn't start out as a tank. Mcd panicked after week 3. 2 of the wins we got were walk off overtime scores that DC changed the called play at the line of scrimmage. Those two wins would have changed us from #7 pick to #4 in this year's draft. That's a big difference. Difference between being able to draft a QB outright, or trade up for significantly cheaper than #7 to 1 or 2. (Might have gotten lucky w 4th Rd AOC pick).
I can go on.. seriously, all day on the subject.
The ONLY reason Mcd extended Carr was to trap Davante Adams. Adams is one of the few NFL players who can demand a trade and he gets what he wants. But his contract has him trapped for his first two seasons, financially. The dead cap hit if he's traded last season or this is a decade long death sentence for the team. But watch, after this season, he is GONE. Probably to saints or jets.
And he didn't just bench Carr. He took the all time Raiders leading passer, with virtually every franchise QB record, the guy who carried the ENTIRE franchise for 9 years, took ALL the responsibility for everything, blamed him, benched him, BANNED him from the facility and sideline, then couldn't even get a draft pick for the second biggest free agent QB in the league.

I'm not even close to done, but I'm trying to keep it brief. Lol.

But this year is big. 2nd year. Look at the history. 10(ish) years ago, he took over the broncos. They had made the playoffs the previous year, first Rd loss. He did worse than previous years coach w same roster, missed the playoffs, blamed, benched, and traded the starting QB (Jay Cutler). In the second season, he absolutely lost the locker room. 100%. They hated him. Didn't even make it through his second season and got fired. But not before he had to trade the #2 receiver in the league(Brandon Marshall), because he refused to play for him anymore. And went running back to daddy belicheck, like EVERY other head coach who has EVER come from the belicheck coaching tree. So what's he do here? Gets rid of Derek Carr, Alex ingold, looks like Josh Jacobs gonna be gone after this year, and no way Davante stays past this season to play w spaghetti arm Jimmy g.(who I actually don't hate, just have no faith yet). What do those 4 have in common? They were all captains of the team the last two seasons. Brings in players who have been cut by the Patriots cuz they aren't any good any more, some cases never were. There's been like 65 former Patriots either on the roster or given tryouts w raiders. In 1 full season and two off seasons!!! That's crazy.

Still not done, but out of respect to bandwidth and the fact I'm finished w my coffee, I'll stop there!
 

subrob

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Oh yeah... BTW...Mcd has never once been referred to as a "genius' or 'wonder kid's when he DIDN'T have the greatest QB of all time along w the greatest TE of all time running his genius system. Matter of fact, they were so good without McDaniels they won a Superbowl together the FIRST year they left and went to Tampa Bay!
 

pop_rocks

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oh wow hawk, that looks like fun and you know im hitting up for a bootleg tape man
and fireworks! that sounds like a fun way to spend a summers eve
the rams have some young talent at wr but im not all in on $tafford and dont see him being part of the next championship team
/please prove me wrong $tafford!
i want to see more of this stetson kid,he looks ok but this is the preseason
i dont know if the raiders are going to bring the heat like they did last week against sf but i expect to see how steston can move in the pocket and avoid the sack/ make plays
so it sounds like you arent a fan of coach mcdickface man
the raiders have some serious talent on both sides of the ball but play in a tough division so it a tough raod to haul
i think you have a top-3 back for the rest of the year and d.adams is still a premiere receiver if someone can sling him the ball and maybe another receiver to pull some coverage to the toher side of the field
the defense has crosby who is a star, but ha can only do so much by himself and it seems like jones might have been a bust
but the one thing you have going for you is the raiders spirit and i hope al davis is turning in his grave
 
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pop_rocks

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dont get me started on the witch hunt on chucky!
/i dont even like the guy or the tam ( you remember i was a san diego fan growing up) but i hate to see people getting punked out like that
i think the biggest issue for the raiders in the afc.w are the chiefs and chargers and those are two pretty big dogs to knock off
the chargers will shit their own bed when the time is right but kc is for real
still taking in the takes but its good to have you back subrob
 

shithawk420

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I used to play with those throwing stars too, were they pretty hard to stick into a tree? Would you throw it like a playing card or would you hold it like a baseball (the points up against your palm) and flick it? I heard the latter is how youre supposed to do it.

Never had a blowgun, that would be pretty bad-a to have. In real life ur supposed to poison the tips in order to put down a target.

Everyone’s nervous about fields, but I think we’ll be alright. He’s got DJ moore to throw to, kmet is a pretty good receiver at tight end, his #2 WR is darnell mooney who’s decent. Id worry more about the defense if I were u, even if the O gets a lead the D might give it right back.

Im no josh mcdaniels fan but why the hate, subrob? If he did try to tank last season on purpose, it must have been at the owner’s direction, coaches get fired for losing too many games unless it was part of the plan.
But yeah, the whole benching derek carr thing last year was not a good look, carr has been stalwart with the team through a lot of bad times, and to move on from him like that was disrespectful. He’s looking decent with new orleans so far in preseason.

Ive heard of journey but not too familiar with their music, what are their most famous songs again? Don’t stop believing? If the weather is good sounds like a good time, should meet some wimmen there too.
what?your older than me.how can you not know Journey?anyway i gotta get tickets before they are sold out.fireworks, 1812 overture im there.22 buck tickets even my mom wants to go.i cant get too drunk though.id probably yell telling Journey how much they suck.think my dad sold weed to them in the 70s.going for fireworks on the Miss and hot chicks.lord knows i need a fucking break.ill take vids if i can boys.back in i think 2006 i saw the last ozzfest.best concert ever.smoking tons of joints and titties everywhere and offering Ozzy with joints.i was wasted but i think it was Rosemont IL.my dad almost got busted rolling joints in the parking lot and later we were looking for our buddy cause he got his nose broking hitting on a chick.poor guy had mental issues and didnt know better.if i was around it would of been a brawl
 
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Bababooey

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Haha, well put subrob. I don’t pay attention to the local coverage so u would know better than me. Does he come off bad in interviews? Most coaches try to be friendly in media sessions, but there were points last yr mark davis probably had serious talks with him and it showed in his answers.

Ur right, just about every time a QB’s passer rating is better on play action vs no play action, sometimes really better. Last yr vegas passed out of play action 134 times, which ranked about 19 or 18th in the league. Vikings passed out of PA 200x, but that’s cause cousins is like peyton manning when using PA.

Which QB would u have wanted at #4 overall, subrob? Anthony richardson is the starter for the colts, he’s looked decent in preseason fwiw.

They benched carr to ensure his health because they were actively trying to trade him, but yeah he couldn’t even attend practice or was barred from the facility? I guess people could get hurt while working out too, but still that’s pretty bad. Like they took his door pass from him and security escorted him out type of coldness.

In mcdaniels defense, he made mac jones look pretty decent 2 yrs ago, only for the pats offense to fall apart without him last year. But yeah, he’s not some boy genius like kyle shanahan or sean mcvay, belichick is the only genius on that staff.

Im not sure what the raiders should do when/if they move on from mcdaniels soon. Hire someone from the mcvay coaching tree? Andy reid’s? Jon gruden wasn’t really working out either but josh mcdaniels so far seems worse. Just gotta get that franchise game changing QB, maybe caleb williams if the raiders get or trade for the #1 overall pick next year. How about aidan oconnell, heard he looked pretty good in wk 1 preseason. Just need a guy to sling the ball and find open receivers, don’t need an athlete who can rip off 30 yd runs, altho that’s always a nice tool to have.

Josh jacobs might not play this year, pops, I think hes still holding out for more than the franchise tag this year. Most people expect him to eventually sign tho.
But I like subrob’s notion of trading davante in the next year, maybe get a 1st rounder for him, get some draft compensation since they gave up a 1st and 2nd for him. At 30 yrs old he’s not on the same timeline as a rebuilding squad.

Outdoor concerts on the river are always a good time, hawk, even if the music is only tolerable for you. Best start shaping up now, so youll look good and maybe attract a lady or two. Youll be with ur mom, maybe tell the staff shes a huge journey fan so can get up close to the stage.

Who else u like in fantasy, SS? If u cant get one of the kelce or andrews at TE, I hear people like Njoku as a sleeper pick.
 

Bababooey

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Yeah, Hock really stepped it up after the trade to the vikes, im worred about jordan addison being part of the receiving core, cousins might have the best 3 WR core in the league now, which seems to limit the TE upside in that offense. But we'll see.
 

pop_rocks

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i think it would be stupid for j.jacobs not to sign, even if its for the tag$
its not a good look to bail out on your team like that and we hve seen the rb market just istn red hawt right now
i havent broken down the d.cook signing in nyj but it looks like a lot of the money is tied to games played and actually being able to play this next season in light of some criminal chargers he might be facing
if jacobs can put up similar numbers to last season he has established himself as on of the top rbs in the league, but also incurs the wear and tear od a feature back
first @subrob and now storm shadow?! its like football is back
@Storm Shadow ! hope you are doing well man and playing above the rim and smoking them boys out
i like the chargers receiving trio biggly! this season
+and we can add eklar to that list
/i expect him to be a big part of the chargers passing game as well
raiders trading d.adams? who is calling the shots here
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thats a total tear down for a team that just moved in to your new
"forever" home in the desert
/or are you building an offense on a rb who dosnt want to play and a broken down jimmy-g (over/ under 9 games?!? )
but mark davis is an evil genius and there are far darker forces at work here
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al davis is spinning in his grave right now but content knowing his evli seed has taken root in sin city! still not good enough for the playoffs and the spanos family can be choking on a fat'd right now for all i care
i would post more takes but its time for a joint
 
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shithawk420

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sorry to go off topic but i didnt answer your question Baba.different schools have different styles of throwing stars.throwing overhand is only good for bo shuriken.basically spikes.for most stars it depends on how many points.you dont wanna flick your wrist.you kinda just wanna let it fly out of your hand.i saw my dad putting 3 8 penny nails betwween his knuckles when he was shingling and firing them out so i got the idea of trying to throw 3 stars at ounce and i can do it.used to go around carrying a pouch with stars on my belt when i was a kid.was at a party when i was little kid with my dad and this older kid pushed me down on the ground and i threw a star at him!lol we got kicked out of the party and it was a big scene.i was only 5 lol

so who you got on the Bears game Baba?think the colts will win?
 

shithawk420

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lmfao pops.madtv was my shit growing up.thing is though this is my world.this is my reality.now if only i could mold it to where the BEARS FUKING WON!id be in bussiness.WTF do the colts have?they still have Luck?
 

pop_rocks

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naw, luck left the game to just be luck
they drafted some hot shit new qb , anthony richardson
the have a good rb but and m.pittman jr! @ wr but someone need to be able to ge the ball down field and run an offense
those were the days hawk
 

shithawk420

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naw, luck left the game to just be luck
they drafted some hot shit new qb , anthony richardson
the have a good rb but and m.pittman jr! @ wr but someone need to be able to ge the ball down field and run an offense
those were the days hawk
i cant remember shit.after this woke shit started my old buddies stopped watching football and it was over for me.could of told me something that happened 2 years ago happened ysesterday and i wouldnt call you on it.good buddy of mine just called me.we talked about the Raiders WR.he told me the new Corvettes have black boxes?guess i learned something today
 

pop_rocks

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i hear you hawk, stick around and we will get you up to speed
you mean a black box like in an airplane? waht kind of super car do you want to drive
or is this this a brown sugar extra?
 

Bababooey

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Yeah, passing up 10M for this year wouldnt be a great decision financially for JJ, unless he suffers a serious injury if he plays this season.
Pops, mark davis is actually proud of that haircut, the more people make fun of it the more he leans into it. Actually maybe that explains his management of the team also, the more people criticize his moves the more he doubles down on them.

Ekeler has averaged like 18 td’s the last 2 seasons, which is a ton and usually isnt repeatable but ur right Pop, he gets a lot of red zone receiving work and just has a nose for the end zone, like jerick mckinnon of the chiefs. And yeah, F-spanos up the A. I tell ya, between the chargers raiders and broncos (with the new owners) the afc west has some of the worst owners in the league. As if the chiefs needed any more help to be dominant. I think the raiders have won only 3 games vs the chiefs in the last 18 matchups? That’s like bears vs packers. Maybe we can both flip the script soon. Ya gotta believe!

Your dad would throw nails into the roof ninja style, or did he use a hammer? If u threw 3 stars at once could u get all 3 to stick into wood? That would stick into a person for sure, unless they were wearing heavy clothes or leather.

I actually think the bears will win cause bad teams tend to do well in preseason for some reason or maybe that’s just my bias.

Madtv wasn’t too bad actually, sometimes it was more entertaining that Saturday night live, and some of those actors are still active, u see them in other things from time to time.

Hawk you’ve been out of it for awhile luck retired like 4 years ago because he kept getting hurt and didn’t want to deal with surgery/rehab anymore. He’s actually going back to school to get his masters in education or something, said he wants to teach so does that mean coaching?

Did the nfl lose a lot of fans over the kneeling stuff? Some, sure, but they lost less fans than the other major pro sports. U think ur old buddies are watching football again or no? I guess no one kneels anymore.

Is that just some sort of crash sensor that can tell the company how fast it was going when it hit? Not all the data that an airplane’s black box would have.
 
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